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[Battlebloodmage]

I would like exclusive bonuses. It's like getting something extra for ordering the game early. It's also a way for developers to sell as many new games as possible. They wouldn't be very profitable with people buying used games, so I understand this from a developers' perspective.

[iloveexplosives]

bonuses are nice and eventually they all are released for every one in a year or 2

[Iakus]

KDD-0063 wrote...

Whether it's pre-order or CE, it should not have any story content that is exclusive to it, whether it's a mission, or a companion. All story content should be available to the standard edition of the game, even if the game is bought one year after release.

Imo some bonuses pre-order or CE could have are:
1) Artbook/soundtracks;
2) Exclusive items, though I hope I don't find a box in my home full of OP gear that makes me OP for the first chapter or even the whole game;
3) Armor/companion skins, has to be really well done though. Especially item skins that can be 'transmogged' into other items.
4) Weird stuff that doesn't take away from the experience such as playing the main campaign with a darkspawn skin (similar to playing feeding frenzy 2 as the intruder)

Agreed.

If there's any "bonus" story content, it should be free to all new copies.  Think The Stone Prisoner, not The Exiled Prince.

[Reidbynature]

Retailer exclusives are what annoy me most. It's a sure fire way to make sure your customers lose out on content by splitting it up to the various retailers so they can compete for your money. In a lot of cases you will have gamers who are disappointed no matter who they choose to buy from if the content offered across multiple stores is worthwhile and worse when said content isn't always made available to purchase later.

I'm not against 1 day DLC if it weren't something that was simply ripped from the game but actual additional content, but I'm skeptical as to how many developers will go to the bother these days and not simply go with cutting off part of the game to sell it for an additional cost.

[Emzamination]

Op doesn't speak for me, I will be ordering the CE whether it be 60 or 100.I'm not about to let qualms of equality inconvenience me.

[Zkyire]

KDD-0063 wrote...

Whether it's pre-order or CE, it should not have any story content that is exclusive to it, whether it's a mission, or a companion. All story content should be available to the standard edition of the game, even if the game is bought one year after release.

Imo some bonuses pre-order or CE could have are:
1) Artbook/soundtracks;
2) Exclusive items, though I hope I don't find a box in my home full of OP gear that makes me OP for the first chapter or even the whole game;
3) Armor/companion skins, has to be really well done though. Especially item skins that can be 'transmogged' into other items.
4) Weird stuff that doesn't take away from the experience such as playing the main campaign with a darkspawn skin (similar to playing feeding frenzy 2 as the intruder)

I can understand Collector's Editions (if you're willing to pay more; you get more), but different bonuses depending on where you buy your copy? No, please don't do that again Bioware.

[Atakuma]

It's going to happen.

[StElmo]

+1 I hate day one DLC that is actual DLC, I don't mind unsubstantial little bonuses for DLC, like a weapon skin or an armor skin, but if its story content, GRRRRR

[KDD-0063]

Emzamination wrote...

Op doesn't speak for me, I will be ordering the CE whether it be 60 or 100.I'm not about to let qualms of equality inconvenience me.

This is the worse kind of 'fan' I have ever seen.
Oh, because I am going to buy CE no matter what, you guys who buy the standard edition deserves less content, and totally deserves a ripoff.

What?

[devSin]

I hate promotional exclusives.

I think they do them in exchange for advertising (so Gamestop will feature the game prominently in their stores, etc.), but I really wish they had something else to trade for it (or that they would only guarantee the exclusivity for a certain period of time, and then make the items available for other players after that).

I'm fine with other DLC. If circumstances allow, I plan to get the CE of DA3. Hopefully the CE package turns out better than ME3 (actually, even the Signature Edition of DA2 feels more substantial to me than the ME3 CE), and no, Mark, I don't need another mapkin.

Modifié par devSin, 19 septembre 2012 - 07:45 .

[Allan Schumacher]

FlamingBoy wrote...

shale really pushed  the line of day one dlc in my opinion despite the fact he came with every new copy, the character was just to essential to the plot, especially te ozzamar arc, its was if it was cut out of the game and "sold" later

I thought the zaeed dlc was good justification to sell with new copies though

Shale was cut out of the game, the same way a lot of things get cut from the game.  THere was a time extension, however, when we ended up making console version.

The alternative to DLC would have, unfortunately, been no Shale at all :\\

[Dragon_Effect 15511]

I agree. I'm sick of developer ripping out content so they can sell it separately. Especially if the content was important to the story e.g Javik.

[jkflipflopDAO]

Allan Schumacher wrote...

FlamingBoy wrote...

shale really pushed  the line of day one dlc in my opinion despite the fact he came with every new copy, the character was just to essential to the plot, especially te ozzamar arc, its was if it was cut out of the game and "sold" later

I thought the zaeed dlc was good justification to sell with new copies though

Shale was cut out of the game, the same way a lot of things get cut from the game.  THere was a time extension, however, when we ended up making console version.

The alternative to DLC would have, unfortunately, been no Shale at all :

Could you at least acknowlege the fact that we HATE the retailer-specific DLC? Hate hate hate hate it.

[devSin]

Allan Schumacher wrote...

Shale was cut out of the game, the same way a lot of things get cut from the game.  THere was a time extension, however, when we ended up making console version.

The alternative to DLC would have, unfortunately, been no Shale at all :

Wasn't she free to all first-sale customers?

The day they announced they were pushing back the PC release, I said, "Now there is time for Shale".

And lo, there was time for Shale.

[Obeded the 2nd]

This, I'd rather not have it.

[Allan Schumacher]

jkflipflopDAO wrote...

Could you at least acknowlege the fact that we HATE the retailer-specific DLC? Hate hate hate hate it.

Noted.  You hate hate hate hate retailer-specific DLC

Personally I have always only seen the items as fluff items, so they never bothered me.  Why does it bother you?  Just because you want ALL the goodies?


EDIT:  That sounds dismissive.  More just "is there anything more to it than that?"

Modifié par Allan Schumacher, 19 septembre 2012 - 08:00 .

[DarkKnightHolmes]

That's how companies run and that's how EA prefers anyway. So, obviously there's going to exclusive pre-orders and Day 1 DLC.

[jkflipflopDAO]

Allan Schumacher wrote...

jkflipflopDAO wrote...

Could you at least acknowlege the fact that we HATE the retailer-specific DLC? Hate hate hate hate it.

Noted.  You hate hate hate hate retailer-specific DLC

Personally I have always only seen the items as fluff items, so they never bothered me.  Why does it bother you?  Just because you want ALL the goodies?

That's exactly it. Your goal is to get me emotionally invested in this game, right? Well if I'm invested like you want me to be, then I want every single scrap of content that I can possibly experience. Feeling that way and then knowing there's some cool thing out there that I can't have because I didn't order from the "right" retailer is infuriating. 

[Jackums]

uzivatel wrote...

Unless there is retailer-exclusive story content, I dont really care much.

[Cultist]

I'm ok with item DLC...when they ar enot free. Like 30 sets of uberpowered armor and weapons, stashed at your mansion. Black Emporium handled it right - you had to pay for all this new items. But when you get Blood Dragon Armor with +1000 armor, defense and dodge for free...to hell with it.
As for story DLC - I doubt someone will ever trust BioWare again after story with Javik even if they'll speak the truth.

[hobbit of the shire]

I'd much rather pay for a real expansion than trying to collect all these DLCs. Some insignificant extra quests I can see as a DLC, but companions or major plot points should really be part of the game (or as an expansion). I preordered, but not early enough so I never got Sebastian. But from what I've heard about him, he's not worth the extra bucks, so you're not making money off me, just decreasing my overall DA experience. Decreasing experience = less playthroughs = less hype = less word-of-mouth advertising. Extra in-game gear is also only moderately interesting. Pre-order bonuses that might be cool are actual physical items (mini-figs, mini swords, maps, mini Flemeth's grimoire, etc.). I would consider buying such a physical collector's edition, but I bet if anything like that was hatched, probably only the US would get it and Canada (where Bioware is) and elsewhere would get the shaft.

[Anny78]

Allan Schumacher wrote...

jkflipflopDAO wrote...

Could you at least acknowlege the fact that we HATE the retailer-specific DLC? Hate hate hate hate it.

Noted.  You hate hate hate hate retailer-specific DLC

Personally I have always only seen the items as fluff items, so they never bothered me.  Why does it bother you?  Just because you want ALL the goodies?


EDIT:  That sounds dismissive.  More just "is there anything more to it than that?"

That just might be it, it's like Pokemon, you just HAVE TO collect them all!

[Cathey]

 I don't mind day 1 dlc but I absolutely hate retailer specific dlc.
It doesn't matter if it's a non important item or something - If I am paying £40 or more for a game, I should be able to get all the content. If something is a preorder bonus, it should be a preorder bonus everywhere. 
A good example recently is Fifa 13. I know it's not a BioWare game but it's coming from EA at least. So. Amazon has a bonus of 10k EASFC credits. GAME has a bonus of the adidas 'all star team' to be used in the game. I preordered from ShopTo so I get no preorder bonus. 
Now on this occasion, it doesn't bother me at all because I don't want any of those bonuses but if it was Dragon Age, I would want everything. I love using ShopTo. I refuse to use GAME again because of the way they handled Mass Effect 3 and I just generally don't trust Amazon with delivery. So if a really good bonus comes out for Dragon Age 3, I should be able to get it by preordering at ShopTo. I shouldn't have to use a shop I don't trust just for a bit of content.

I am completely fine with the Collectors Edition of the game getting content for free just as long as it's released in the microsoft/psn store so everyone who gets the regular version has the option to buy it (like Sebastian in DA2 and Javik in ME3).

Any 'exclusive' things in the CE should be things like a soundtrack or maybe a little game related physical item. Maybe a nice art book. Not ingame content. 

All dlc should be available to everyone regardless of edition purchased or where they live.