I remember hearing bioware say that the wardens story is pretty much done and if hawke were too appear in dragon age 3 it would probably be in DLC only. Does anyone else find it hard to believe that both of them are finished though? With the warden the last we saw was he/she either went into the portal with Morrigan or watched her go into the portal. Not only that but there is still the whole issue of the god child. Hawke became the champion of kirkwall and both the warden and hawke have gone missing and Leliana says that is no accident. So wouldn't it make sense to put the 2 of them in dragon age 3 as playable characters or at least major characters? The seekers need hawkes help and with the war about to start surly the warden is someone who the seekers would like helping them. The only other reason for not having the warden and hawke being in 3 is that 3 will end with the war starting and the warden, hawke, and the new character from 3 will all be working together in dragon age 4.
Is bioware really done with the warden and hawke?
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Posté 18 septembre 2012 - 12:31
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I really hope they atleast make a cameo I would be dissapointed if not.
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Posté 18 septembre 2012 - 12:32
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The Warden and God-Child would be something I'd very much like to see sown up. I don't think that the Warden has to play a major part, but I think they should at least have a cameo appearance at the very least.
Hawke can disappear into time along with all of DA:2 for me - however killing Hawke would be nice and having him/her appear as a twisted, corrupted Darkspawn to butcher would be great
Hawke can disappear into time along with all of DA:2 for me - however killing Hawke would be nice and having him/her appear as a twisted, corrupted Darkspawn to butcher would be great
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Posté 18 septembre 2012 - 12:35
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I think they will only appear indirectly. A personal theory/wish of mine is that the Inquisitor will follow where Hawke and the Warden tread and we'll be able to control one or both of them in flashbacks.
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Posté 18 septembre 2012 - 12:42
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Lord Aesir wrote...
I think they will only appear indirectly. A personal theory/wish of mine is that the Inquisitor will follow where Hawke and the Warden tread and we'll be able to control one or both of them in flashbacks.
That is an interesting theory, sounds kind of interesting.
As for the warden not needing to play a major part with the god child I find that only the case if you did not do the ritual with morrigan or you were in a relationship with alistar. My main male warden did the ritual with morrigan and my main female was in a relationship with alistar, married him, and had him do the ritual so both of them would kind of have am joar role and learning more about the god child.
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Posté 18 septembre 2012 - 12:42
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A better solution would be to have a choice between which character you want to play in DA3, turning the other character into an NPC by default, recruitable or not. That way, the god-child could become either a 'loyalty mission' for an NPC Warden, or a main mission for a PC Warden.
Just a thought though. I bet all these things have already been adressed, considering that the game has already been in development for two years.
Just a thought though. I bet all these things have already been adressed, considering that the game has already been in development for two years.
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Posté 18 septembre 2012 - 12:53
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Thing is, if Hawke or the Warden return as NPCs, it is highly unlikely that they would be the same character you role played because Bioware simply can't track who you're character was to you. I believe they themselves stated that having them appear might not be worth the potential disconnect.Grizzly46 wrote...
A better solution would be to have a choice between which character you want to play in DA3, turning the other character into an NPC by default, recruitable or not. That way, the god-child could become either a 'loyalty mission' for an NPC Warden, or a main mission for a PC Warden.
Just a thought though. I bet all these things have already been adressed, considering that the game has already been in development for two years.
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Posté 18 septembre 2012 - 12:58
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toddx77 wrote...
Lord Aesir wrote...
I think they will only appear indirectly. A personal theory/wish of mine is that the Inquisitor will follow where Hawke and the Warden tread and we'll be able to control one or both of them in flashbacks.
That is an interesting theory, sounds kind of interesting.
As for the warden not needing to play a major part with the god child I find that only the case if you did not do the ritual with morrigan or you were in a relationship with alistar. My main male warden did the ritual with morrigan and my main female was in a relationship with alistar, married him, and had him do the ritual so both of them would kind of have am joar role and learning more about the god child.
I really, really hope that the God-child returns. DA:4 could be the tale of the child itself, much akin to the child of Baal.
Didn't choose to get Morigan up the duff? She banged some random soldier instead. What about when she has a hissy fit at you in Witch Hunt and says you denied her? She was lying and throwing you off the scent.
The God-child will return.
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Posté 18 septembre 2012 - 01:00
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Lord Aesir wrote...
Thing is, if Hawke or the Warden return as NPCs, it is highly unlikely that they would be the same character you role played because Bioware simply can't track who you're character was to you. I believe they themselves stated that having them appear might not be worth the potential disconnect.Grizzly46 wrote...
A better solution would be to have a choice between which character you want to play in DA3, turning the other character into an NPC by default, recruitable or not. That way, the god-child could become either a 'loyalty mission' for an NPC Warden, or a main mission for a PC Warden.
Just a thought though. I bet all these things have already been adressed, considering that the game has already been in development for two years.
But if you are importing origins and 2 save file then couldn't the data for your warden and hawke just be added like how commander shepard carries over from each game, or did bioware not put the warden code inot the origins save import? I would veen be ok with when you meet the warden and hawke in 3 the game gives you the option to customize their appearance, kind of like how mass effect 2 worked with seeing commander shepard for the first time.
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Posté 18 septembre 2012 - 01:06
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Thing is, you were still in control of Shepard. Making Hawke or the Warden NPCs would be like Shepard's auto dialog in ME3 except a whole game of it and that sometimes fit the character you wanted and sometimes not. A lot of people were angry about that.toddx77 wrote...
But if you are importing origins and 2 save file then couldn't the data for your warden and hawke just be added like how commander shepard carries over from each game, or did bioware not put the warden code inot the origins save import? I would veen be ok with when you meet the warden and hawke in 3 the game gives you the option to customize their appearance, kind of like how mass effect 2 worked with seeing commander shepard for the first time.
There's no way to maintain the characters without giving the player direct control over them, appearances aside.
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Posté 18 septembre 2012 - 01:36
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Well I was referring to if you could play as one or the other or in the context of even if the warden is the main character you control when ever hawke speaks you could also choose his/her responses as well.
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Posté 19 septembre 2012 - 05:07
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I hope they are mentioned in dialogs or in ... some in-game artwork of some kind, but not a full-fledged cameo. I kind of want DA3 to be just on the new protagonist and wrap a story around him/her.
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Posté 19 septembre 2012 - 05:17
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I'd say their stories are finished in terms of us ever playing as them again. However, I don't doubt that they will be referenced many times and eventually we'll be told where they've disappeared to. If we get any cameo from either of them, it will likely be Hawke since he/she is voiced already so it would slightly easier to do successfully.
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Posté 19 septembre 2012 - 05:35
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The can exist through the inquisitor's opinion on them
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Posté 19 septembre 2012 - 05:38
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Pretty much, to my everlasting regret.
Well, not the Warden. They died, if I recall correctly.
Well, not the Warden. They died, if I recall correctly.
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Posté 19 septembre 2012 - 05:40
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I hope so. My Warden's dead so I don't really expect to ever hear from them again. As for Hawke, BioWare blew it when it came to him/her. I think the DA series needs a fresh start, a fresh face, and hopefully the DA3 protagonist will be it. I'm actually hoping they'll set it up so we can play as DA3's protagonist in future DA games, rather than just having them disappear and we get a new character in DA4.
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Posté 19 septembre 2012 - 05:43
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didnt they say in one of the interviews that they were not done with the Wardens story that does not have to mean your wardens story but perhaps another warden you also play as in the future perhaps 500 or 1000 years in the future when another blight happens.
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Posté 19 septembre 2012 - 06:26
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I would love to see the warden and hawke make a camo or some codex entry to see what they have been doing some gossip around towns maybe, if we meet Alistair again in denerim, I would like him to mention the warden.
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Posté 19 septembre 2012 - 07:21
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I always had the impression that the thing about the wardens is, they're really only concerned about blights and darkspawn. Wars and politics in the rest of Thedas don't concern them overmuch because they still have the treaties. I'm sure they'll keep a close watch on events but how directly would they get involved?
I'd love to see the Warden again, especially as a playable character, and maybe find out what happened with Morrigan. But I could definitely how this might not happen.
I'd love to see the Warden again, especially as a playable character, and maybe find out what happened with Morrigan. But I could definitely how this might not happen.
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Posté 19 septembre 2012 - 07:25
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Direwolf0294 wrote...
I hope so. My Warden's dead so I don't really expect to ever hear from them again. As for Hawke, BioWare blew it when it came to him/her. I think the DA series needs a fresh start, a fresh face, and hopefully the DA3 protagonist will be it. I'm actually hoping they'll set it up so we can play as DA3's protagonist in future DA games, rather than just having them disappear and we get a new character in DA4.
I disagree. I would rather have a new character every game than a psuedo-Shepard.
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Posté 19 septembre 2012 - 07:28
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They have to resolve what happens to the both of them in DA3.
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Posté 19 septembre 2012 - 07:38
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I really, really want to see my Wardens again, but I don't care if they're playable. I'd also like to see my Hawkes, though not as much.
I do want a new protagonist for every installment of Dragon Age. I want to see all my pcs until they die on camera or retire on camera, but as reasonably major cameos along the way. I want both a new character every game, and my other characters to show up where they make story sense. If my Warden was king of Ferelden or back in Orzammar or off with the Dalish, I want to run into them there and see what they're up to.
The way I see it, I stopped controlling their destinies the minute they went off and did their own thing while I was controlling Hawke, and I stopped controlling Hawke the minute he/she left at the end of DA2. I'm more interested in seeing the different ways their lives play out. If we get some kind of decision points about what they do next as well, that would also be very cool.
I'm not Shepard in Dragon Age. I'm a league of characters, so if we get a little input with them time to time, that would be very cool.
I do want a new protagonist for every installment of Dragon Age. I want to see all my pcs until they die on camera or retire on camera, but as reasonably major cameos along the way. I want both a new character every game, and my other characters to show up where they make story sense. If my Warden was king of Ferelden or back in Orzammar or off with the Dalish, I want to run into them there and see what they're up to.
The way I see it, I stopped controlling their destinies the minute they went off and did their own thing while I was controlling Hawke, and I stopped controlling Hawke the minute he/she left at the end of DA2. I'm more interested in seeing the different ways their lives play out. If we get some kind of decision points about what they do next as well, that would also be very cool.
I'm not Shepard in Dragon Age. I'm a league of characters, so if we get a little input with them time to time, that would be very cool.
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Posté 19 septembre 2012 - 07:50
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Lord Aesir wrote...
I think they will only appear indirectly. A personal theory/wish of mine is that the Inquisitor will follow where Hawke and the Warden tread and we'll be able to control one or both of them in flashbacks.
That could be good.
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Posté 19 septembre 2012 - 08:19
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This sucks.
I want to be a Grey Warden. If I'm anyone else in this universe, I know that there's someone more uber than me out there because a Grey Warden > All. Felt pretty powerful as Hawke until that squad of Wardens rolled through. . . then I suddenly felt kind of tiny next to them.
I want to fight a known evil enemy (the Darkspawn). If I play a runthrough as a mage to completion, then I start a new game as a Templar - I know that the mages who are now my enemy aren't evil. I know their reasoning and can sympathize with them.
I DO NOT WANT another "cliffhanger" ending with unresolved threads all over the place (especially where LI's are concerned). It's total bullcrap that we STILL don't have resolution to the Morrigan storyline.
I DO NOT WANT yet another game focusing on the Mage/Templar/Chantry dynamic. It's boring. The entirety of the Chantry idea itself is boring.
I want to be a Grey Warden. If I'm anyone else in this universe, I know that there's someone more uber than me out there because a Grey Warden > All. Felt pretty powerful as Hawke until that squad of Wardens rolled through. . . then I suddenly felt kind of tiny next to them.
I want to fight a known evil enemy (the Darkspawn). If I play a runthrough as a mage to completion, then I start a new game as a Templar - I know that the mages who are now my enemy aren't evil. I know their reasoning and can sympathize with them.
I DO NOT WANT another "cliffhanger" ending with unresolved threads all over the place (especially where LI's are concerned). It's total bullcrap that we STILL don't have resolution to the Morrigan storyline.
I DO NOT WANT yet another game focusing on the Mage/Templar/Chantry dynamic. It's boring. The entirety of the Chantry idea itself is boring.
