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[SporkFu]

jkflipflopDAO wrote...

This sucks.

I want to be a Grey Warden. If I'm anyone else in this universe, I know that there's someone more uber than me out there because a Grey Warden > All. Felt pretty powerful as Hawke until that squad of Wardens rolled through. . . then I suddenly felt kind of tiny next to them.

I want to fight a known evil enemy (the Darkspawn). If I play a runthrough as a mage to completion, then I start a new game as a Templar - I know that the mages who are now my enemy aren't evil. I know their reasoning and can sympathize with them.

I DO NOT WANT another "cliffhanger" ending with unresolved threads all over the place (especially where LI's are concerned). It's total bullcrap that we STILL don't have resolution to the Morrigan storyline.
I DO NOT WANT yet another game focusing on the Mage/Templar/Chantry dynamic. It's boring. The entirety of the Chantry idea itself is boring.

Wow, dude, that does suck. No offense but I think you're gonna be disappointed. The title alone suggests the mage/templar/chantry dynamic is going to be the game. It disappoints me as well, because it makes me think the wardens will play a small part.

[philippe willaume]

Ideally I would like to play the warden again (Hawke not so much)
Regardless if leliana or morrigan/God child is involved, it would be hard not to a have the warden appearing (as NPC or flashback controllable dude
Same goes for hawk regarding the Templar chantery things

there is enough informnation about the choice Hawkwe and the Warden made to have the game pick up the dialogue options for them if they are NPC.

Phil

[Direwolf0294]

AlienWolf728 wrote...

Direwolf0294 wrote...

I hope so. My Warden's dead so I don't really expect to ever hear from them again. As for Hawke, BioWare blew it when it came to him/her. I think the DA series needs a fresh start, a fresh face, and hopefully the DA3 protagonist will be it. I'm actually hoping they'll set it up so we can play as DA3's protagonist in future DA games, rather than just having them disappear and we get a new character in DA4.

I disagree. I would rather have a new character every game than a psuedo-Shepard.

Just because you'd play as the same character, doesn't make that character a psuedo-Shepard. I played as the same character across three Halo games, does that mean Shepard's just a psuedo-Master Chief? 

Playing as the same character across games makes it easier to show the consequences of your actions in previous games, helps create a stronger attachment to the characters and the world and makes it easier to give a sense of closure to stories. I mean, just look at what's happened with Hawke. Hawke's the one who was around when the whole mage vs templar war started yet they're never going to see it through to the end. That just leaves you with a bad taste in your mouth.

[The_11thDoctor]

Id love to play a game where I had control over Hawke and made a real rise to power, but if they dump him like they dumped the warden, Ill move on after crying man tears...

[Jerrybnsn]

They would have no problem with Hawke returning and playing a larger role than just "cameo" for a few minutes. Hawke's personality was determined by your choices and that imported over to the dlc they made, so you could have three type of Hawke's with their customization facial features easily. Besides, what's the problem with auto-dialogue Hawke, he would go into that in the DA2 game anyway?

Now the Warden needs to be playable and a silent protagonist.  Bring back the conversation tree with five to seven responses available.  That way the players retain their Warden's personality without hiring a VO to completely ruin it.  Our Wardens are generally leveled somewhere between 23-27, so they would be pretty bad ass.  The time to use them in the game would be when you have overwhelming odds and you play as your Warden to slice through the enemies and save the day like a true Hero.  Yeah, a couple of hours to feel the awesomness of the Warden I created would be....awesome.

Modifié par Jerrybnsn, 19 septembre 2012 - 09:21 .

[jkflipflopDAO]

Jerrybnsn wrote...

They would have no problem with Hawke returning and playing a larger role than just "cameo" for a few minutes. Hawke's personality was determined by your choices and that imported over to the dlc they made, so you could have three type of Hawke's with their customization facial features easily. Besides, what's the problem with auto-dialogue Hawke, he would go into that in the DA2 game anyway?

Now the Warden needs to be playable and a silent protagonist.  Bring back the conversation tree with five to seven responses available.  That way the players retain their Warden's personality without hiring a VO to completely ruin it.  Our Wardens are generally leveled somewhere between 23-27, so they would be pretty bad ass.  The time to use them in the game would be when you have overwhelming odds and you play as your Warden to slice through the enemies and save the day like a true Hero.  Yeah, a couple of hours to feel the awesomness of the Warden I created would be....awesome.

As you're adventuring through the Deep Roads on your way to some forgotten Thaig, you come across your Warden (or old King Alistair if your Warden went out like a hero). He explains that towards the end of a Warden's life, they throw themselves towards the hoard in one last show of fury.

Now is his time.

Then you take control of a vastly powerful Warden's final hurrah against sure death as the inquisitor runs to safety like a puss.

Modifié par jkflipflopDAO, 19 septembre 2012 - 10:02 .

[AlienWolf728]

Direwolf0294 wrote...

AlienWolf728 wrote...

Direwolf0294 wrote...

I hope so. My Warden's dead so I don't really expect to ever hear from them again. As for Hawke, BioWare blew it when it came to him/her. I think the DA series needs a fresh start, a fresh face, and hopefully the DA3 protagonist will be it. I'm actually hoping they'll set it up so we can play as DA3's protagonist in future DA games, rather than just having them disappear and we get a new character in DA4.

I disagree. I would rather have a new character every game than a psuedo-Shepard.

Just because you'd play as the same character, doesn't make that character a psuedo-Shepard. I played as the same character across three Halo games, does that mean Shepard's just a psuedo-Master Chief? 

Playing as the same character across games makes it easier to show the consequences of your actions in previous games, helps create a stronger attachment to the characters and the world and makes it easier to give a sense of closure to stories. I mean, just look at what's happened with Hawke. Hawke's the one who was around when the whole mage vs templar war started yet they're never going to see it through to the end. That just leaves you with a bad taste in your mouth.

Not a fair comparison. Different developer, different genre; Different experience entirely.

Playing as a different character in the successing game does not cheapen the consequences of your actions. You will still witness the world your previous character formed through their actions, just from a different perspective.

DA was never set up to be a trilogy, like the Mass Effect series was. Each character has their own story that concludes with each game. Your relationships with the characters were not promised to you through multiple games; their stories ended (as did your relationship with them) when their respective game finished.

If I remember correctly, the war never started until the end of DA2, so Hawke was only there to see the start of it. It was not the goal of the entire game and thus, not his problem *cue Hawke with sunglasses*.

Modifié par AlienWolf728, 19 septembre 2012 - 10:08 .

[Dormiglione]

Dont want to see Hawke back, neither as cameo appareance.
I miss the warden, but im ok that Bioware is done with the warden and hawke.

[Jerrybnsn]

We actually do have an article saying that Hawke will make a reappearance. However, I remember someone posted a Mike Laidlaw comment that they feel they would not do the return of the Warden because it would (to paraphrase) "upset a lot of fans if they don't do justice to the Warden". Which, I say is a major disappointment....again.

But, we can always keep badgering away before the game goes gold.

[SpunkyMonkey]

Jerrybnsn wrote...

We actually do have an article saying that Hawke will make a reappearance. However, I remember someone posted a Mike Laidlaw comment that they feel they would not do the return of the Warden because it would (to paraphrase) "upset a lot of fans if they don't do justice to the Warden". Which, I say is a major disappointment....again.

But, we can always keep badgering away before the game goes gold.

So long as they give us the option of killing Hawke then I can live with his re-appearance - possibly much like you have the choice of killing Zevran in DA:O.

Adding the line "Die Hawke you murderer of FRPG's and soulless Shepard wannabee! You're inane ramblings and dire game deserve to be buried forever" would be a nice touch too

Modifié par SpunkyMonkey, 19 septembre 2012 - 11:13 .

[Berty213]

Lord Aesir wrote...

I think they will only appear indirectly. A personal theory/wish of mine is that the Inquisitor will follow where Hawke and the Warden tread and we'll be able to control one or both of them in flashbacks.

Oh wow, I love this idea!

Modifié par Berty213, 19 septembre 2012 - 11:16 .

[High Kicks]

Berty213 wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

I think they will only appear indirectly. A personal theory/wish of mine is that the Inquisitor will follow where Hawke and the Warden tread and we'll be able to control one or both of them in flashbacks.

Oh wow, I love this idea!

I like it, too!

[EricHVela]

I do not want DA3:I to be the end of the tales of Thedas. I do not want them to answer all questions. I do not require the Warden or Hawke to return.

Their exploits, however, are not yet done if my guesses are correct.

[l7986]

Well if I was writing the game, I would have all DA3 as the buildup to the final confrontation between the Maker and his forces vs the OGB and the Black Andraste that would be DA4. Final scene of DA3 would be the warden on either side depending on actions in Orgins, coming forth as the Herald of the forces amassed. Then DA4 would be just all out war all over Thedas.

Hawke meh toss him in a dumpster or something just as long as they keep Merril alive.

[cindercatz]

Yeah, I definitely don't want DA4 to be the last Dragon Age game. I don't want there to ever be a last DA game. I love it that much. I also don't want them declaring the Chantry good and anything opposed to it bad, either. From a lot of perspectives, the opposite would be true. Dragon Age should always be about a variety of realistic perspectives and interpretations.

Jerrybnsn wrote...

We actually do have an article saying that Hawke will make a reappearance. However, I remember someone posted a Mike Laidlaw comment that they feel they would not do the return of the Warden because it would (to paraphrase) "upset a lot of fans if they don't do justice to the Warden". Which, I say is a major disappointment....again.

But, we can always keep badgering away before the game goes gold.

That would be a major disappointment, yes. I definitely intend to keep badgering here and there.

I'm not worried about 'doing the Warden justice'. If they voice them (yes let me voice them), they answer whatever situations based on decisions we made as players and/or allow us to make decisions for the Warden when they show up, and if they allow us to import/edit or choose a pre-set for the appearance at our discretion, and if the Warden is contextually part of whatever part of the world we put them in, then why would I be upset? That would pretty much cover all the bases and I'd be thrilled and satisfied to see them still part of the world.

If they just conveniently disappear, then I'll be disappointed.

Modifié par cindercatz, 19 septembre 2012 - 11:33 .

[wright1978]

While the nostalgic part of me would love to see my Warden king again don't think it is necessary or particularly feasible. However he/she should be referenced and there be a different ambiance dependent on warden's fate. News about the state of affairs in Ferleden should differ if Warden is dead, missing with Morrigan, King etc.

Hawke on the other hand definitely feels like a character with unfinished business and very much tied to the trouble with mages/Templars.I want Hawke to return but only if it is in a controllable segment ala Joker/TW2 etc. Don't want to watch NPC Hawke. Definitely don't want some stupid railroaded death for the character either.

[toddx77]

i still think bioware has to at least do something with them. Why make both the Warden and Hawke disappear? Also the fact that Leliana says that is no accident is implying that the two of them disappeared together so to just leave it at that seems like the only reason dragon age 2 ended like that was because bioware wanted some shock value in their ending.

[cindercatz]

Agreed, with the last part of the Origin endings, also. Both still have parts to play, as far as I'm concerned.

I don't mind Hawke dying (or the Warden), so long as it's done really well, and it's significant to the story.

Modifié par cindercatz, 19 septembre 2012 - 11:41 .

[Feanor_II]

Don't forget that roughly 50% of players don't have the God Child conceived and/or have their Warden dead...... so don't have much expectation in those being major plotlines.

[Jerrybnsn]

l7986 wrote...

....I would have all DA3 as the buildup to the final confrontation between the Maker and his forces vs the OGB and the Black Andraste that would be DA4. ....

The problem with the build up to DA4 is that DA4 will be on the next gen where there is no backwards compatability that would allow importing.  Unless, as some suggest EA sets up an account that can hold your import flags that will be converted over for the new console.  But we can't get a confirmation on if this is possible.

[Jerrybnsn]

Feanor_II wrote...

Don't forget that roughly 50% of players don't have the God Child conceived and/or have their Warden dead...... so don't have much expectation in those being major plotlines.

I think that number is heavily exaggerated considering how players have multiple wardens, however, it isn't an argument because if your Warden is dead Bioware said they wold respect your choice and not force the OGB on anyone.  Just as they said they would respect those that did chose to have the OGB and live and also to make it relevant to their world that they created.

Modifié par Jerrybnsn, 19 septembre 2012 - 12:20 .

[Jackums]

I personally care little for either of them. Morrigan and Flemeth? That's a different story.

[LadyVaJedi]

I want an answer to what happened to my Warden Queen and to my Female Hawke and her lover Anders darn it! I find it very annoying that both of them just disappeared.

[KylieDog]

I had hoped the DA series would be like Mass Effect and I would import my Warden into further games and choices matter a lot. They failed to do it with DA2, but they can still let us import our saves into DA3.

To me, if not going to bring back the Warden in DA3 then they need forget about Morrigan and her child in DA3 also, do not bring back one without the other.

I never liked Hawke, no matter what I do he/she is just never my character like the Warden was.

Feanor_II wrote...

Don't forget that roughly 50% of players don't have the God Child conceived and/or have their Warden dead...... so don't have much expectation in those being major plotlines.

...not like a dead ME2 Shepard ever stopped anything about ME3.

[thebigbad1013]

Well, BioWare said right from the start that Dragon Age wasn't about a single character but rather about the Dragon Age and the events that takes place during it. Now I love my warden(s) as much as the next guy, but what exactly would be the plot of a game starring a grey warden when a blight isn't actively razing the land? It was made pretty clear in Origins that Ferelden, and Thedas, seemed to have little use for Grey Wardens except during blights.

I'm perfectly fine with a new protagonist in every game, and it certainly doesn't exclude the possibility that we will hear more about what happened to Hawke and the Warden since they both "disappeared", but I really don't need to have either of them back as a playable character.