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[AlbinaTekla]

Someone like the character Richard Harrow from Boardwalk Empire! He's such a BAMF but sweet and scarred.

[ladyofpayne]

nightcobra8928 wrote...

how about a veteran chevalier? stern, serious and loyal to the people

*imagining something like this for appearance*

I want this chevalier too.

[Anna0_o]

Massa FX wrote...

Someone taller than my avatar

No whiney men

This.

[Takara_XD]

I think Bioware need to focus on older characters like Cullen and Nathaniel. Give the fans the romance that they have been waiting for.

And Justice
I really, really want to romance Justice.

[Lookie]

Takara_XD wrote...


I think Bioware need to focus on older characters like Cullen and Nathaniel. Give the fans the romance that they have been waiting for.

And Justice
I really, really want to romance Justice.

I loved Justice. If he hadn't been a corpse I would've been all over him. Also, seeing how many people want to romance Cullen, he should definitely be an LI.

How about a kossith? I want a kossith, been waitin' for two games now. Who doesn't love big serious men with lots of muscle? Makes me purr~

[Sylvanpyxie]

Annie_Dear:

No, I understood what you meant and still fully support it

Oh good. I'm glad you like the idea.

Filament:

Gann of Dreams?

Only angrier. Let's say, Gann's arrogance and charm with Bishop's bitterness and rage.

Though I'm not entirely sure why everyone keeps trying to label it. I had no particular character in mind when I was considering the archetype.

Modifié par Sylvanpyxie, 19 septembre 2012 - 11:27 .

[Queen Deadite]

Alistair is and always will be my favorite, but I don't want him back without my Warden. Maybe I am just a sucker for the nice nerdy funny guy.

[EricHVela]

Does Serendipity from the second Dragon Age count?

[ladyofpayne]

I don't want to see Alistar type guyu. He isn't male he is girl who need a mommy. Male NPC must act himself.

[Svanhildr]

Mmm... male Morrigan

[The Hierophant]

How would you guys feel if the devs concenrated more time, and resources to other areas of the game as opposed to the romances, all in an effort to improve upon the negatives of DA2? Would you go ape, would you begrudgingly be accepting of the circumstances, roll with it, or etc.? So, what say you?

Modifié par The Hierophant, 19 septembre 2012 - 02:50 .

[Sylvanpyxie]

So what say you?

I don't consider romances to be an integral part of the game, but just because they aren't integral to the game doesn't mean it wouldn't be a great loss to the richness of the final product - Romances offer greater insight and a deeper emotional connection to companion characters, and that can greatly enrich the entire experience of the game.

Even though I don't pursue the romances with the same gusto as other people, if they weren't included in a Bioware title I would likely not buy the game, but not because of the loss of romance itself...

I've played excellent games without romances in the past - I'm not saying they're the by all end all of RPGs - but Bioware have proven in the past that they're capable of making excellent stories with the inclusion of romances(as well as other unnecessary, but vastly popular, features like player customization).

They're more than capable of having a gripping story, excellent game and romances. If their resources, or their abilities, were so restricted that they would need to remove one of their most popular features.. Well, they might as well give up.

It might seem like a very "Bigger Picture" view point, but if Bioware have made brilliant games in the past that have included unessential features like Companion Romances and Player Customization then they can do it again, and if they can't then I won't want anything to do with them.


Beyond that: It's no secret that I prefer the game to exist beyond romance, a rich and complex story should always have priority. I don't want romances to receive the bulk of the resources, but neither should they be completely starved of resources or developmental time.

There can be balance between the essential(main story and general gaming experience) and the unessential(romances, player customization and other additional features). Bioware have proven in the past that they're capable of giving us both the essential, and the unessential.

Modifié par Sylvanpyxie, 19 septembre 2012 - 03:13 .

[The Hierophant]

To clarify, the premise of my question was not the removal of romance but less focus put on it compared to DA2, but it's a good post. Even though i'm not big on the romances, i would dabble in them to learn more about the companion's past experiences, like, dislikes, and everything in between. I like the immersion it adds to Bio's games, and it could lead to varied playthroughs if a person chooses so.

Like DA2, the DA team is using a new engine, and it makes me wonder if they would have enough time to develop the locales, overarching story, varied side quests, plot twists, dialogue, antagonists, animations, character creator, and combat in a 2-3 year dev cycle. I'm trying to refrain from being a pessimist, but with everything on their plate it makes me wonder if they can succeed where DA2 divided the playerbase.

Modifié par The Hierophant, 19 septembre 2012 - 04:06 .

[AnniLau]

The Hierophant wrote...

To clarify, the premise of my question was not the removal of romance but less focus put on it compared to DA2

I found the romance in DA2 pretty minimal. Nothing through Act I, development through Act II (but once you'd done the deed, that was pretty much it), then a little wrap up in Act III. I wanted more, not less.

[The Hierophant]

AnniLau wrote...

The Hierophant wrote...

To clarify, the premise of my question was not the removal of romance but less focus put on it compared to DA2

I found the romance in DA2 pretty minimal. Nothing through Act I, development through Act II (but once you'd done the deed, that was pretty much it), then a little wrap up in Act III. I wanted more, not less.

Like romancing Leliana? I always believed that romancing her was more indepth/intensive compared to romancing the other characters in both games.

[AnniLau]

The Hierophant wrote...

AnniLau wrote...

The Hierophant wrote...

To clarify, the premise of my question was not the removal of romance but less focus put on it compared to DA2

I found the romance in DA2 pretty minimal. Nothing through Act I, development through Act II (but once you'd done the deed, that was pretty much it), then a little wrap up in Act III. I wanted more, not less.

Like romancing Leliana? I always believed that romancing her was more indepth/intensive compared to romancing the other characters in both games.

I didn't find her romance that interesting, possibly because she'd stealth romanced me several times before I got around to doing it for real and I found her a bit creepy as a result. I did like the DA:O style of companion interraction much better though.

[KingJason13]

I want a romancable female Dark Spawn companion.

[Sylvanpyxie]

I'm trying to refrain from being a pessimist, but with everything on their plate it makes me wonder if they can succeed

I understand. It's hard to remain optimistic that Bioware will release a game with the brilliant sense of depth and balance that people have come to love about their games, but Dragon Age 2 didn't suffer because of resources being spent on romances.

Dragon Age 2, from what I can personally tell myself, seemed to have less romantic content than it's predecessor - Dragon Age Origins. Origins was a good game, it had a deep and rich story arc that progressed well through out the game, and a lot of the romances had a great deal of content to offer (I believe Alistair had the most).

Dragon Age 2 actually felt like it had half the romantic content of Origins, if that. So I believe that they did in fact cut down on the romantic content - The problem is that they cut down on *all* the content, not just the romances.

Like I said in my previous post - I believe Bioware can release a good core game with all the bells and whistle attached, assuming they have the time and resources. They've proven that with Origins.

Dragon Age 2 was a disappointment to many, but the romances suffered just as much as the overall game-play experience. I doubt the game could have been improved with a simple allocation of resources.

Modifié par Sylvanpyxie, 19 septembre 2012 - 05:19 .

[ladyofpayne]

Another picture for stern chevalier fans

[zevranarainais]

Sylvanpyxie wrote...

Aetherwyn wrote:

So... Zevran Arainai, yes?

No.

If we must do comparisons, I suppose the closest thing, from a different developer, would be Bishop(NwN2). The difference would obviously be that, unlike Bishop, this character would keep the angry bitterness and jaded nature internal, outwardly portraying a deceptively happy attitude.

It isn't a character archetype that is hiding sorrow, it's a character archetype that has moved so far beyond sorrow that all they have left is hatred, anger and bitterness. The personality I suggested isn't the type of character that would weep into his pillow, much more likely to scream bloody murder in someone's face and threaten bodily harm, or fob them off with a joke I suppose.

Now that it's clarified, I imagine there won't be a lot of interested in it.

At the very least, he sounds like an interesting character, regardless of whether or not I'd be interested in having my characters romance him.

And, to answer one of your other questions (why everyone wants to compare your ideal character to other pre-existing ones), I think it's human nature to understand things by labelling them, by comparing them to what we already know. And we already know other characters -- and so, it makes sense for us to try and fit this vauge character into our  knowledge and understanding. It's not necessarily a healthy habit -- labels can be quite damaging, after all -- but it's how many of us sort through things.

In any case, he definitely sounds interesting. I suggested Zevran because I didn't understand the depth of rage and 
bitterness that you were talking about.


Personally, I'd love a roll-with-the-punches, spew-witticisms-left-and-right kind of man, but that's just my own taste talking.

[Sylvanpyxie]

I think it's human nature to understand things by labelling them

You're right, it is, but it makes it very difficult to explain a general concept that you have personally never labeled yourself. Not a fan of labels - As you said, they can be damaging. I prefer to portray a character I would like to see, randomly dropping off a name can cause a great deal of confusion or misinterpretation.

I updated my original post with a more in-depth explanation on exactly what I was trying to explain, so hopefully there will be less confusion in that regard.

Modifié par Sylvanpyxie, 19 septembre 2012 - 05:31 .

[Eyil]

Jowan.

Also, Nathaniel.

[AnniLau]

Eyil wrote...

Jowan.

Only if they take that whining tone out of his voice. I never accepted him as my mages' friend because I instantly wanted to stab him in the throat so he'd shut up.

[Eyil]

I think he sounds pretty adorable, really. Very whiny, but in an endearing way. To me, at least.

[Riosred]

i don't think they should make every follower bisexual....that was so unrealistic and unplausable. Put some thought into the characters and their orientation please.