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[Chris Priestly]

This argus?

[PolisMassa]

Got it to X, almost every PSP had 2...(maxed manifest)

[Tallgeese_VII]

If argus was released 4 days ago why did I get only Ammo IV without maxing my Rare first? THere is no end to Store troll?

[aarnold1]

Chris Priestly wrote...

This argus?

Haha!

[Yuanrang]

Chris Priestly wrote...

This argus?

No, the other one that was released today, not the one that was released 4 days ago and no one saw, leading us to believe it was an Ultra-Ultra-Ultra-Rare weapon.. 

[Rifneno]

Chris Priestly wrote...

This argus?

An excellent example of how much attention is paid to stickies. 

[palmof40sorrows]

Wow. First PSP and one drops right of the bat. Huh.

[Ziegrif]

F5 at the speed of liiiiiiiiight!!!!

Also Chris pulled a fast one on us D:

CHRIIIIIIIIS!!!!!

Modifié par Ziegrif, 18 septembre 2012 - 09:34 .

[etm125]

NERF IT!

/gets pitchfork

[N7-RedFox]

So i after trying this weapon with my Geth Engineer spec'd for HM Damage + RoF + Accuracy, i failed miserably and died on wave 1 FBWGG solo'ing.

The Argus is Heavy, Inaccurate and took several seconds to take down a Hunter on Gold.

I thought i'd give it a fair shot and tried again FBWGG with Destroyer

Destroyer spec'd for Devastator Mode RoF, Damage, Accuracy
Grenades Spec'd for Radius and extra damage + extra shards
Missile - none
Armor - Full armor protection no melee upgrades

Gun mods - AP mod V and extended barrel V
Gear mod - Warfighter V

Result - got downed halfway through wave 1 coz the gun was taking far too long to kill targets.

Vedict - This weapon even at lvl X should be a Common rank weapon and should not be used above Silver difficulty (if u want to win)

Chris can we PLEASE have the Bloodpack Punisher? You guys trolled us hard with the Argus, i really think its time u cut us a break.

Modifié par CaptainTeabag, 18 septembre 2012 - 09:38 .

[AkuIaTubShark]

Slightly off topic but...
Since we have the Argus now, where's the Valkyrie?
I've always preferred the latter.

[blue water]

Thought I was nuts just got Argus III.

[Rifneno]

CaptainTeabag wrote...

So i after trying this weapon with my Geth Engineer spec'd for HM Damage + RoF + Accuracy, i failed miserably and died on wave 1 FBWGG solo'ing.

The Argus is Heavy, Inaccurate and took several seconds to take down a Hunter on Gold.

I thought i'd give it a fair shot and tried again FBWGG with Destroyer

Destroyer spec'd for Devastator Mode RoF, Damage, Accuracy
Grenades Spec'd for Radius and extra damage + extra shards
Missile - none
Armor - Full armor protection no melee upgrades

Gun mods - AP mod V and extended barrel V
Gear mod - Warfighter V

Result - got downed halfway through wave 1 coz the gun was taking far too long to kill targets.

Vedict - This weapon even at lvl X should be a Common rank weapon and should not be used above Silver difficulty (if u want to win)

[palmof40sorrows]

Holy cow the store is handing it out like candy. Got it to X in like six packs.

It may be "teh sux" but hey it's new and will give me enough new stuff to do that I like it. Off to try it and die, apparently.

[N7-RedFox]

Rifneno wrote...

CaptainTeabag wrote...

So i after trying this weapon with my Geth Engineer spec'd for HM Damage + RoF + Accuracy, i failed miserably and died on wave 1 FBWGG solo'ing.

The Argus is Heavy, Inaccurate and took several seconds to take down a Hunter on Gold.

I thought i'd give it a fair shot and tried again FBWGG with Destroyer

Destroyer spec'd for Devastator Mode RoF, Damage, Accuracy
Grenades Spec'd for Radius and extra damage + extra shards
Missile - none
Armor - Full armor protection no melee upgrades

Gun mods - AP mod V and extended barrel V
Gear mod - Warfighter V

Result - got downed halfway through wave 1 coz the gun was taking far too long to kill targets.

Vedict - This weapon even at lvl X should be a Common rank weapon and should not be used above Silver difficulty (if u want to win)

It's hard for me to say this but.... my Eagle II is better than the Argus X

[Tony Dawg]

Call me when we get the N7 Valkryie.

[Eelectrica]

I hated it in Leviathan. Sounds like the MP version is somehow even worse.
Oh well 10 wasted rare cards coming up....

[Rifneno]

CaptainTeabag wrote...

It's hard for me to say this but.... my Eagle II is better than the Argus X

M... My God...

[palmof40sorrows]

The good news is that the Particle Rifle was also "terribad" etc when first released. Now, not so much.

Maybe they will buff it in the not-yet-released balance changes? That would be HILAAARIOUS.

[JaimasOfRaxis]

All right, full weapon analysis time.

If the Avenger is the M-16, and the Harrier is the AK-47, then the Argus is the FAL.

At level X, It is hugely powerful - 2-3 body shots will kill an assault trooper, given no upgrades or mods, on Bronze. At close range, a 3-round burst will instantly drop a Phantom whose shields are out on Bronze. On Silver, it is less-impressive, but still quite powerful, reliably punching through enemy health with distressing flair. Downing Cerberus Troopers in 2-4 shots (or one headshot and a bodyshot) is a common occurence. On Gold, they go down in two bursts, provided you get nothing but bodyshots. That's not bad at all for a weapon of this type.

All of this is offset by its recoil - it has the angriest recoil of any weapon thus far - seriously, it's worse than the Incisor in this regard. Unlike the Incisor, however, you can manage it better by firing it outside of aiming (this makes no sense but whatever), and if you fire it from cover, its accuracy improves tenfold. It's a great weapon for taking and holding terrain, and I can see it becoming much more effective if carefully-managed.

With mods, this thing is a beast. Non-Turians will need a Barrage upgrade, and probably Stabilization Modules to get the most out of unless they use a Stability Dampener for it, but these can reduce its kick to a more-managable state. It is, again, best when operating from cover, and is most-likely to be at its best when on maps with acceptable cover; Artyom and I tested it on Hydra, but it would probably do well anywhere.

I will say this: It is NOT a weapon for the faint of heart. It's got accuracy problems and if you go into a fight expecting to use this like other guns, you will DIE. Its initial accuracy is quite good, but its harsh kick means that whilst the first shot will always land on-target, the second will be about 6-12 inches higher (more if distant) and the third about the same again higher than that. Carefully aiming means you'll reliably hit with the first shot, or you can try to aim low to hit with all three from afar - but again, you're best off using it from cover.

I'm genuinely impressed by it. I'll need to give it more thorough combat tests on Platinum Runs later.

Modifié par JaimasOfRaxis, 18 septembre 2012 - 09:43 .

[Ashen One]

The Argus is too heavy for what it does. It's a great trash killer, (used a Geth Engineer with the accuracy/RoF bonus in Hunter Mode with Warp Ammo, and an AR amp III) a single burst to the head of an unshielded Marauder is a kill.

It struggles against hordes of armored units. (predictably)

Needs a weight decrease, or a serious damage buff. There's no way I would take this into Platinum or Reaper/Gold over a Saber, Graal, Geth Plasma Shotgun, Particle Rifle or anything else in it's weight range.

[Ziegrif]

RoseyTony wrote...

Call me when we get the N7 Valkryie.

Personally I'd like the N7 Chicken Egg.

[N7-RedFox]

JaimasOfRaxis wrote...

All right, full weapon analysis time.

If the Avenger is the M-16, and the Harrier is the AK-47, then the Argus is the FAL.

At level X, It is hugely powerful - 2-3 body shots will kill an assault trooper, given no upgrades or mods, on Bronze. At close range, a 3-round burst will instantly drop a Phantom whose shields are out on Bronze. On Silver, it is less-impressive, but still quite powerful, reliably punching through enemy health with distressing flair. Downing Cerberus Troopers in 2-4 shots (or one headshot and a bodyshot) is a common occurence. On Gold, they go down in two bursts, provided you get nothing but bodyshots. That's not bad at all for a weapon of this type.

All of this is offset by its recoil - it has the angriest recoil of any weapon thus far - seriously, it's worse than the Incisor in this regard. Unlike the Incisor, however, you can manage it better by firing it outside of aiming (this makes no sense but whatever), and if you fire it from cover, its accuracy improves tenfold. It's a great weapon for taking and holding terrain, and I can see it becoming much more effective if carefully-managed.

With mods, this thing is a beast. Non-Turians will need a Barrage upgrade, and probably Stabilization Modules to get the most out of unless they use a Stability Dampener for it, but these can reduce its kick to a more-managable state. It is, again, best when operating from cover, and is most-likely to be at its best when on maps with acceptable cover; Artyom and I tested it on Hydra, but it would probably do well anywhere.

I will say this: It is NOT a weapon for the faint of heart. It's got accuracy problems and if you go into a fight expecting to use this like other guns, you will DIE. Its initial accuracy is quite good, but its harsh kick means that whilst the first shot will always land on-target, the second will be about 6-12 inches higher (more if distant) and the third about the same again higher than that. Carefully aiming means you'll reliably hit with the first shot, or you can try to aim low to hit with all three from afar - but again, you're best off using it from cover.

I'm genuinely impressed by it. I'll need to give it more thorough combat tests on Platinum Runs later.

I'm impressed with how bad and unuseful it is compared to the Harrier, PPR and Revenant.

[Sky_Storm]

yeah it's just like using a hurricane the first time...recoil is horrendous while ADS. holds more ammo than the harrier. kinda iffy on it but guess you could use it with a stabilization mod or something.