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[cshaff]

an RTS would be fantastic - Take command of an Alliance fleet in the terminus, both space and ground combat on new and old planets, at first fighting Turians in the First Contact War, then Batarians, Mercs and Pirates before the Battle of the Citadel and then Geth, then Collectors and ultimately Cerberus and Reapers.  An RTS that spans the ME trilogy and before.  The story of a fleet eventually culminates taking part in multiple scirmishes to take back Earth at the End of ME3.  The end of a each conflict affords an opportunity to upgrade and incorporate new units and species into your force, like the War Assets in ME3.  With an opportunity to incorporate special units like N7 Troopers, Spectre's, STG, etc.  Even Leviathan thralls as the game progresses.  Each battle starts with a system invasion and a battle for the skies, using capital ships, fighters and shuttles to get your people to the ground, once air suppiority is obtained ground units take over.  Just a thought.  But I would totally buy this game.

[Spinotech]

I think control and synthesis need to be taken out of the equation by some plot device.  For simplicities sake the plot device should be an energy pulse from another galaxy.  The negative effects vary depending on the ending in ME3.

Destroy: Mass relays have become more powerful, but unstable.  An overload could happen soon and wipe out all life in systems wih mass relays.

Control: The reapers and catalyst Shepard's conscience are disabled + negative effects of destroy.

Synthesis: Connection has been lost to synthetics and knowledge between organics and synthetics is lost.  Reapers are disabled + negative effects of destroy.


The player's mission would be to investigate what generated the pulse and reverse what it did.

Modifié par Spinotech, 19 septembre 2012 - 01:53 .

[filetemo]

morrie23 wrote...

Terrorize69 wrote...

Synethesis is the same as ME2s "Shepard dies" ending, it has no future, sorry.

Well, it can be argued that the Synthesised galaxy does have future (and BioWare would want you to believe it is the perfect end and that everyone should be happy), I for one just don't want to play a ME game in that particular future.

so if Synthesis is the perfect ending, how can you set up a game after it? There could be no "conflict" or war, except if the enemy came from outside the galaxy.

Synthesis is the final stage of evolution. Happiness and rainbows.You can't set mass effect 4: utraviolence and carnage in a synthesised galaxy where supposedly everybody is peaceful and nice to each other.

[macrocarl]

Way in the future and/or in a new galaxy! I mean KOTOR did a jillion years before Star Wars movies, it's doable for sure.

[morrie23]

filetemo wrote...

morrie23 wrote...
Well, it can be argued that the Synthesised galaxy does have future (and BioWare would want you to believe it is the perfect end and that everyone should be happy), I for one just don't want to play a ME game in that particular future.

so if Synthesis is the perfect ending, how can you set up a game after it? There could be no "conflict" or war, except if the enemy came from outside the galaxy.

Synthesis is the final stage of evolution. Happiness and rainbows.You can't set mass effect 4: utraviolence and carnage in a synthesised galaxy where supposedly everybody is peaceful and nice to each other.

I'm sure BW will make-up a new conflict/threat if they wanted to after Synthesis. But I agree, violence and strife after Synthesis doesn't seem to make much sense. Maybe BW meant for Synthesis to be a end-point for ME so any new game will only be a prequel or some concurrent spin-off. Who knows what they plan to do.

As a note, I truely hate Synthesis, partly due to this ' final stage of evolution' business, evolution does not happen in discreet stages, it has no direction or end point.

[Jonathan Shepard]

DanNormandy wrote...

Mass Effect 3 Remake, with Karpyshin and Weekes leading the script.

Basically, this.

That, or turn that multiplayer into a full-blown game with WAY more content, polish, and an appealing store system.

Because, really. Multiplayer turned out much better than expected.

Modifié par Jonathan Shepard, 19 septembre 2012 - 02:19 .

[Chris-1983]

Here I have some good tips for you Bioware to prevent such a disaster that happend with ME3:
1) Please no artistic vision in the last 10 mins of the game. We all saw what was the result and it really sucked.
2) Listen to your fans and create at least one good shiny rainbow ending where the hero survies and has a long life together with his LI. I´m sick of all the dark endings, where the hero sacrifices himself for the greater good. I would work my ass off to have that kind of shiny ending.
3) Fire Casey Hudson.
If you follow these helfpul tips, I bet you won´t recieve such a disastrous reaction like you had with the original ending of ME3.

[Novate]

The easiest way to continue the Mass Effect story is to delve into the consequences of what happened after the War with the Reapers.

Of course the only one i think would work would be control or destroy, and Synthesis will not be used.
The work involved by an special forces team to help rebuild Earth.
Delving into Politics, research, espionage, the raising threat of an new enemy from another galaxy with the destruction of the Reapers or the disappearance of the controlled reapers by Shepard.

Helping other races so that they can help us. The special forces team is from an newly created Earth Company that is similiar to Cereberus but its not Cerberus, its an new organization that helps or hinders other races to help Earth Rebuild. So the moral grey ground is there, help others while hurting others based on decisions of either fame or fortune, morality or technology.

With destruction and chaos, there will always be Pirates and Bandits, not that they are bad but they are holding onto precious cargo that we need to steal back or steal from.

This will help generate another lead character outside of Shepard and each member of the alive crew will make some cameo in their respective planets or as assets to help rebuild Earth.

[Talvaris]

Okay I am getting tired of this anti-synthesis Bull****. Okay sorry ME 1 Moment. Still synthesis still could be explored after the game because while it says they all try to work towards the future. What is to say that there is not life out there that was not affected by Synthesis or maybe some enemy that was older then the Reapers that had wait to strike. An remember Synthesis did not change people to all be nice and peaceful. Just a smaller chance of it happening but not impossible so please if you like Control or Destroy good for you but stop all this bashing on the Synthesis ending.

[heikki993]

Snypy wrote...

I'd like Casey Hudson to read this post before he and his team really start working on ME4...

No, no more of this. Extended Cut made endings good enough. THE END.Mass Effect 3 is great game as it is.
My own suggestion is that if you make MP for next ME game, make it PvP.(And i know that some people will hate me for saying these things)

[Novate]

Talvaris wrote...

Okay I am getting tired of this anti-synthesis Bull****. Okay sorry ME 1 Moment. Still synthesis still could be explored after the game because while it says they all try to work towards the future. What is to say that there is not life out there that was not affected by Synthesis or maybe some enemy that was older then the Reapers that had wait to strike. An remember Synthesis did not change people to all be nice and peaceful. Just a smaller chance of it happening but not impossible so please if you like Control or Destroy good for you but stop all this bashing on the Synthesis ending.

How can there be Political conflict with Synthesis or Moral Gray Ground with Synthesis.
Think about it, Synthesis makes everyone pretty much the same, we have all the knowledge and life span and technological advancement of every race that the Reapers has taken. 

It doesn't make good stories without conflict. Sure there can be an invasion of another galaxy or threat, but with all that knowledge and power, we can sneeze and they will be destroyed. 

But with Control or Destroy, you still have racial conflict, Political conflict, and people aren't working toward an common goal. 
With Control, Shepard is the hidden guardian, story can easily say that Shepard suddenly disappeared 
with destroy, everyone is busy rebuilding their own civilizations so conflict can still occur, past sins  can still resurface. 

Synthesis is like the final stage of evolution, where no one is conflicting with one another, there is no longer individuality its literally the God Mode. How can you make a game with God Mode on. 

[Vinny]

heikki993 wrote...

Snypy wrote...

I'd like Casey Hudson to read this post before he and his team really start working on ME4...

No, no more of this. Extended Cut made endings good enough. THE END.Mass Effect 3 is great game as it is.
My own suggestion is that if you make MP for next ME game, make it PvP.(And i know that some people will hate me for saying these things)

Modifié par Epök, 19 septembre 2012 - 02:54 .

[AlexMBrennan]

An remember Synthesis did not change people to all be nice and peaceful

Yes it did, because it had to. Since it leaves the Reaper armada intact, the only way for synthesis to be guarantee an end of the conflict if it rendered every last being in the universe an extreme pacifist. Otherwise, the Reapers could just have decided to kill us all anyway.

You see a marine hugging a husk at the ending ffs - a husk that, personally, killed that marines best mate minutes before and, in general, murdered billions in this cycle alone. Why would that human suddenly stop wanting revenge? Or what about those that think that husks, sentient or not, are an abomination that needs to be killed?
People kill other people for lots of reason, and once the killing has started it tends to continue for a very long time. You can't take all that away without changing people.

[bombspy]

I guess MEx will be a prequel (like First Contact War and aftermath) or a spinoff during the Reaper War (e.g. being an (alien) soldier fighting the Reapers on worlds like Palaven etc. or being a mercenary fighting in the Terminus Systems).

I'd like to see how the galaxy develops after the end of ME3, but I think it would be to hard to develop a common story line even for the 3 main endings. They could still use the IT, but that would be too risky imo.

Just don't make another MMO. Intense stories and MMO mechanics rule each other out. Some MP is okay, but it needs to be basically a SP game.

[Snypy]

Talvaris wrote...

Okay I am getting tired of this anti-synthesis Bull****. Okay sorry ME 1 Moment. Still synthesis still could be explored after the game because while it says they all try to work towards the future. What is to say that there is not life out there that was not affected by Synthesis or maybe some enemy that was older then the Reapers that had wait to strike. An remember Synthesis did not change people to all be nice and peaceful. Just a smaller chance of it happening but not impossible so please if you like Control or Destroy good for you but stop all this bashing on the Synthesis ending.

I won't play a game in which every being is partially a Reaper. Because that's exactly what happened in Synthesis. Besides, the synthesis is something that Shepard himself/herself forced on the galaxy. The others had no chance to object to it. Remember that we were set to destroy the Reapers from ME1 and therefore it should be canon for a sequel.

Modifié par Snypy, 19 septembre 2012 - 03:12 .

[PrimeOfValor]

Talvaris wrote...

Okay I am getting tired of this anti-synthesis Bull****. Okay sorry ME 1 Moment. Still synthesis still could be explored after the game because while it says they all try to work towards the future. What is to say that there is not life out there that was not affected by Synthesis or maybe some enemy that was older then the Reapers that had wait to strike. An remember Synthesis did not change people to all be nice and peaceful. Just a smaller chance of it happening but not impossible so please if you like Control or Destroy good for you but stop all this bashing on the Synthesis ending.

There is a couple of fanfictions that the crucible may have not hit every being in the galaxy and the new cerberus are developing an anticrucible to disable synthesis permately and if that happens, the reapers revert to their origanl programming and start the cycle again.

[Snypy]

heikki993 wrote...

Snypy wrote...

I'd like Casey Hudson to read this post before he and his team really start working on ME4...

No, no more of this. Extended Cut made endings good enough for me. THE END.Mass Effect 3 is great game as it is.
My own suggestion is that if you make MP for next ME game, make it PvP.(And i know that some people will hate me for saying these things)

I edited your message a bit. I hope you don't mind. Perhaps you should read the post I linked to as well.

[obZen DF]

I don't think a prequel is the right way to continue the series. A post ME3 game would be cool. An immersive story while the galaxy is rebuilding. Maybe we see Garrus being 30 years older. Like MGS4. How awesome would that be.

Modifié par obZen DF, 19 septembre 2012 - 03:21 .

[Mr Cloud]

He doesn't rely on the artistic integrity anymoar? Such a pity. Doubtful that our ideas will make it into the game.
It's just a sweet talk.

Modifié par Mr Cloud, 19 septembre 2012 - 03:34 .

[spirosz]

Talvaris wrote...

An remember Synthesis did not change people to all be nice and peaceful.

Javik would like to have a word with you. 

[Inside_Joke]

[Terrorize69]

obZen DF wrote...

I don't think a prequel is the right way to continue the series. A post ME3 game would be cool. An immersive story while the galaxy is rebuilding. Maybe we see Garrus being 30 years older. Like MGS4. How awesome would that be.

Lol MGS4, yeah xD

BW could canonize destroy and still have control also follow with the same story, they would "please" 2/3s of their fanbase, rather then 1/3.

Nearly all the squad in ME2/3 is young enough to carry on into ME4 sequel with no issues, even if thats 30years later. Although giving the Leviathan DLC, if ME4 is indeed a sequel. I see it being directly after ME3.

Leviathan hitting the Galaxy while its weak rather then after its rebuilt its strength.

[KOM_95]

Set it on Omega and be a vigilante who assemble team to free Omega fromAria if shes still alive after Omega