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NO MMO!!!!!! PLEASE!!!!!!

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GameTester1000 wrote...

NO MMO!!!!!! PLEASE!!!!!!


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Phoenix_Also_Rises wrote...

GameTester1000 wrote...

NO MMO!!!!!! PLEASE!!!!!!


youtu.be/umDr0mPuyQc


Will just be an ass and just post "no" too like most people, without giving any reasons... WHATSOEVER! :o

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New tech! Yes! Was it just me who thought the technology in the original games looked incredibly homogeneous? Yes, the ships were different, but, to a large extent, the weapons and devices seemed fairly uniform, with the only distinct example I can list being the Disciple shotgun, which is clearly Asari (and looks like a dolphin, making the single least-threatening-looking firearm in existence). This, of course, can easily be attributed to most of galactic tech being based on the presumed-Prothean/Reaper technology, which is why I am liking this other galaxy idea more and more. Temporal/spatial disturbances are old sci-fi hat and therefore, technically, not all too difficult to write.

- and I realized that, from an interface standpoint, if we could be able to bring up the journal/quest log while in galaxy map, that would be great. Saves a lot of time (and frustration) than having to switch in and out of the map to bring up the quests to figure out just where am I supposed to go. The main quests lit up, and that was neat, but for the sidequests - did anyone else think it was a pain?

- New species - the Yahg were pre-space flight during the games but just barely; I think there is a Codex entry that states they were somewhere on the level of Earth in the 20th century technology-wise. And they seem to be devious bastards, should they join the galactic community, dealinng with them would prove to be quite the issue. They seem like something next to which even a Krogan looks mild-mannered and quite pleasant to spend a long afternoon chatting with, whilst drinking tea. (Now I am imagining a Krogan tea party. My mind works in twisted, twisted ways) And since everybody gets into conflict with the Krogan eventually, it would be interesting to see these two interact - with the Krogan likely being added among the more distinguished Citadel races, I think it would be interesting to see the Yahg view the Krogan as examples and their biggest competition, perhaps even claiming they be elevated as well, seeing as the Krogan, otherwise viewed as savage and violent, were brought into the world of high diplomacy. I think there would be quite a bit of friction there.

- the Raloi - (http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Raloi) they are an avian species, who has made their first contact with the Asari during the course of the second game but withdrew from the Council after the Reaper invasion. They were also susceptible to a number of diseases and therefore had to wear enviromental suits. And apparently, they also got themselves into an incident with some Krogan (because who does not sooner or later). It would be nice to see something that was only mentioned in passing realized on the HD screen. As we watch them and the Quarians exchange decontamination tips.

- New classes - you can hardly top the classics, but how about bring some MP/DLC classes to the new single-player campaign as well? How amazing would it be to play as, say, a Fury in the next game?


Don't forget geth weapons and tech! That's something I'd definitely like to see more of, tech that actually differentiates along racial lines. This could include bio-synthetic or biotically empowered devices, or tech that is usable only to certain races - which would work well with a dynamic where player chooses their own race.

New races are always interesting; it might be neat to encounter something that can fly like the raloi. Personally I'd like to see a true aquatic race or something totally unconventional. The more 'alien' the better I say! Maybe the rachni could join galactic society in peace if you saved the last queen in ME1, or maybe the thorians could make a comeback (a 'unique species' doesn't make any sense anyway, and there are lots of places on Feros for them to hide).  I don't like the yahg though. It was fine as a one-off boss fight in LotSB but the race effectively up-stages the krogan as the galaxy's 'big ugly brutes'!

Speaking of which, I always thought the reaper 'brutes' resembled yahg more than krogan, like they just adapted the same model.  I often wondered why the writers didn't take the opportunity to take the yahg out of the canon by having the reapers conquer them.  Given that the yahg had already had contact with the citadel races, it seem unlikely that the reapers would have spared them, and it would explain how Brutes appear in such great abundance early in the game without the reapers having conquered Tuchanka.

Rather than more classes, I'd actually like to see the elimination of classes altogether in favour of a more open character creation dynamic.  Essentially, a player would decide whether to specialize in combat, tech or biotic skills, with associated abilities in each.  Favouring one ability, such as biotic potential, might decrease ones acuity for tech or combat abilities.  Biotics might operate on an experience based progression tree, whereas tech abilities might require the player to switch out different omni-tool applications for each mission, with progression granting more slots and power.  Combat skills might increase ones abilities with weapons and armour.  Over the course of the game, players could build intensely powerful specialists, more adaptable jacks-of-all-trades, or any combination therein. Mixed with a choose-your-own-race dynamic the possibilities would be endless.

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Don't forget geth weapons and tech! That's something I'd definitely like to see more of, tech that actually differentiates along racial lines. This could include bio-synthetic or biotically empowered devices, or tech that is usable only to certain races - which would work well with a dynamic where player chooses their own race.

New races are always interesting; it might be neat to encounter something that can fly like the raloi. Personally I'd like to see a true aquatic race or something totally unconventional. The more 'alien' the better I say! Maybe the rachni could join galactic society in peace if you saved the last queen in ME1, or maybe the thorians could make a comeback (a 'unique species' doesn't make any sense anyway, and there are lots of places on Feros for them to hide).  I don't like the yahg though. It was fine as a one-off boss fight in LotSB but the race effectively up-stages the krogan as the galaxy's 'big ugly brutes'!

Speaking of which, I always thought the reaper 'brutes' resembled yahg more than krogan, like they just adapted the same model.  I often wondered why the writers didn't take the opportunity to take the yahg out of the canon by having the reapers conquer them.  Given that the yahg had already had contact with the citadel races, it seem unlikely that the reapers would have spared them, and it would explain how Brutes appear in such great abundance early in the game without the reapers having conquered Tuchanka.

Rather than more classes, I'd actually like to see the elimination of classes altogether in favour of a more open character creation dynamic.  Essentially, a player would decide whether to specialize in combat, tech or biotic skills, with associated abilities in each.  Favouring one ability, such as biotic potential, might decrease ones acuity for tech or combat abilities.  Biotics might operate on an experience based progression tree, whereas tech abilities might require the player to switch out different omni-tool applications for each mission, with progression granting more slots and power.  Combat skills might increase ones abilities with weapons and armour.  Over the course of the game, players could build intensely powerful specialists, more adaptable jacks-of-all-trades, or any combination therein. Mixed with a choose-your-own-race dynamic the possibilities would be endless.


- I retract my previous statement about tech uniformity. Geth machines were way cool indeed. Perhaps I have become so used to the Mass Effect aesthetic in general its various aspects began blending together for me. Thank you for correcting me:) A part of my point, however, I will still stand behind - it would be way cool to see a wildly new approach to technology (which is why I like the "travel to another galaxy" idea so much)

- Yeah, the first time I saw a Brute, my immediate thought was "is that a Yahg?" Then I noticed the Turian head and became completely baffled. While the Codex entry did make sense, nothing of the features struck me as very Krogan.

- Your class suggestion is interesting. But while I see where you are coming from and, to a large extent, agree with you, I do not think that is a very viable idea. Much like with the ability for any character to equip any weapon but not being able to use it, resulting in a very bothersome inventory/character profile switching and sifting, this open approach to character classes could prove equally confusing, particularly to the new players whom the developers are doubtless eager to bring into the fanbase (join the herd, joiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiin ussssssssssssss). I suspect the openness would only come into its own on subsequent playthroughs and not right away, which is not ideal since subsequent playthroughs are dependant on how good and well-flowing the initial one was. Personally, I think the class and levelling system was fine - the one in 3 being my favorite, from the technical standpoint; the original simply had too much, leaving me, as a completely new player, somewhat overwhelmed, the one in 2 I found overly simplified. The freedom, I think, would only be appreciated by seasoned players and alas that is not the only demographic that needs to be considered.

Plus that Fury, not to mention Shadow, are just so damn cool :D Seeing how incredibly well anything with the N7 logo sells, I think it is a fairly safe bet the new protagonist will also be a member of the corps (as much as I do NOT want to see the very Shepard-centric, iconic aesthetic rehashed), why not implement the classes from the multiplayer? The point of a game is to have fun and those definitely were. And this is coming from a person who usually loathes multiplayer with a burning passion, even more so when it is mandatory (in a way). The ME3 one I did not mind all that much, actually. I ended up wanting to go back and playing a bit more of it but there were never enough people online for the scenario to load. Seriously, BioWare, what were you thinking?

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And lastly, if you allow me to wax poetic (and a bit selfish) for a moment, I want to be wowed, I want to be wondered, I want my jaw to drop and I want to stare wordlessly like that first time I went to Eden Prime. I want to be unable to resist the need to call somebody over to point at the screen and go "would you just look at that" like that time during one of the away missions on an alien world. I want to be made unable to put the controller down, I want to be enthralled by the twisting story and incredible characters. I want to lose my track of time and be okay with it. I want my heart to be unbroken.

I want my Mass Effect back.

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ME devs, your only option at this point to make a decent game is to forget the cliche prequel idea and go way past the modern timeline.

Very few popular sci-fi movies, novels, games, etc. have ever dared to go into the distant future. I'm talking really distant.

What if you're a bounty hunter in 3000 or 4000 CE?

What if the galaxy has begun making its own mass relays?

What if they discover the Citadel mass relays are different than the others?

What if, one day, a mass relay of entirely different design is found at the edge of the galaxy that leads to another galaxy?

What if the Reapers were not the first to build the relays?

What if in this new galaxy, technology was so far ahead that it had reached its near-limit? These aliens have the Theory of Everything, are able to manipulate matter. And one half wants to preserve us, the other wants to destroy us.

And along the way, we wonder: why did they link to our galaxy? What were they doing there?

Maybe throw in some "origin of life" stuff.

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Gear specific to classes/races?

no - not my thing (classes in general are not my thing either...i like the approach of leveling up and chosing what skills you want (and in ME the only thing that would not work with is being a biotic IMHO...also there is a loophole: the Krogan have an operation that can produce a Biotic from a normal person, those people run a high risk of dying though (the Krogan probably only survive - and not all of them - because if their fast healing and multiple organs etc.))

say what you will about "that is overpowered" or something, when i say i want a biotic with tactical cloak, a sniper-rifle (and the trusty pistole) and tech-powers (and no ammo-powers...i want those back to being weapon-upgrades (like ME1 - i love my SPECTRE-Gear Pistole with Inferno-Ammo)...ammo-powers are nonsense IMHO and badly explained, too)...and no, not that "gimp" biotic-tech-mix class (that does not even have the usefull powers from either class...no warp, no singularity, no tech-armor, no electronics (so no Overload) etc.) - and yes, i am talking about ME1 sentinel (it isn't much better in ME2 and ME3 - that class lacks any of the good powers IMHO)

i would want something like:

here you decide weather you are a biotic or not and here is what you can choose for skills (having everything available, but not enough points to become a jack of all traits master of all - thus every player can make a character like he wants...maybe with bonuses for spending a certain number of points in one area like biotics, technology and weapons-training etc.)

as for gear for only one race:

no, ME-Universe makes that hard anyway, as major companies make all technology and they want to reach all possible customers...that there is certain stuff that might only be available if you loot it of certain enemies (or bought on the black market - if the character has contacts/done favours for certain parties (Aria comes to mind, i am sure she can get almost everything, same for contacts in the STG or in Cerberus)) that's fine (but that is hard to get stuff then anyway)

greetings LAX
ps: nothing is OP in Singleplayer IMHO (as long as it does not one-shot bosses/hard enemies and protect you from all damage like god-mode!)

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Phoenix_Also_Rises wrote...

And lastly, if you allow me to wax poetic (and a bit selfish) for a moment, I want to be wowed, I want to be wondered, I want my jaw to drop and I want to stare wordlessly like that first time I went to Eden Prime. I want to be unable to resist the need to call somebody over to point at the screen and go "would you just look at that" like that time during one of the away missions on an alien world. I want to be made unable to put the controller down, I want to be enthralled by the twisting story and incredible characters. I want to lose my track of time and be okay with it. I want my heart to be unbroken.

I want my Mass Effect back.


that i can agree on - i want the sense of wounder, the magic back (the space-opera-feeling as someone else on the forum described it)

i want to be able to just look at the surroundings again - and maybe find some easter-eggs or hard to find spots for special companion banter or special conversations (like looking out at the Ascencion in ME1 - i missed that all this time and found that spot TODAY (after just loading a savegame in order to try out the DLC for ME1 - and i have played ME1 dozens of times!), boxes with loot, files etc. (note: i do not want those extremly hard to find - i just want them to be a little of the beaten path, so explorers like me find that...oh and i want something to look up if i have found everything and opened all boxes etc.)

greeting LAX
ps: sorry for double posting ;)

pps: uber-powerfull aliens? - sorry, been there, done that...powerfull, yes, but walking among the stars like giants (to quote babylon 5) well no (maybe some ruins or something of such beings, but no live ones - no...i'd rather have some beings like the Drakh from B5: they were slaves to beings that were this powerfull and wanted to become it (gods among the stars) - and you have to stop it that's something i could get behind)

as for aliens that are a little more advanced (like say the Collectors compared to the rest of the galaxy) that is something i would love (or maybe the aliens just use "different" technology (must not be more powerfull at least not for long - like say they use energy-weapons...at first they would be overly-powerfull (because kinetic-barriers do not stop them) but after a little while (we have such weapons, too - also not on a large scale: the Guardian-Systems) it just becomes "normal" because our side adapts (every weapon has a counter))

note: some changes in technology would be something i would like, too (because well races like the Geth, the Collectors (and the surviving reaper-tech) were already more advanced in some areas) :)

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Would be really cool to play other spicies in the story, i would really like to play a Quarian.

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I'm hoping we can choose our race this time. That would be fun.

All-in-all though as long as it's good I'm fine with whatever they produce.

Although something Post-Reaper War would be nice. Maybe the Terminus System is coming together as a whole and that fact alone is making citadel space on edge, potentially pushing into a war. I 'unno. Just a thought.

Could always go the "Space Pirate/Mercenary/Vigilante" route too.

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emulate the witcher 2 storywise. it was perfect and leagues above Bioware games.

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IntoTheDarkness wrote...

emulate the witcher 2 storywise. it was perfect and leagues above Bioware games.


Every time "The Witcher" is mentioned on BSN, a BioWare dev falls to his/her knees and screams in anguish at the empty, empty sky.

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While it might be too unrealistic in terms of feasibility, an "Origins" style game where you can start as any of the major council/associate races would be fun. One of the things that instantly drew me into the Mass Effect universe with the first game is how well crafted all the races were and how the game made you care about them all to varying degrees. Plus, I have the dream of being the first shotgun wielding biotically powered Volus bounty hunter...

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Mass Effect 4: Evolution

But really, i'd like to see maybe some new races. I bet there's enough concept art in storage that could feed an entire army of fans.

Story-wise: Cerberus/remanant Reapers/what other crazy fanatic group is out there ends up kidnapping other races and experimenting on them, and you're sent to investigate.

Would be a real slap to the face if your shepard goes out to investigate first and ends up dead.

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I would want ME4 tobe set 300 ish years ahead about the same time the cutscene is shown when you finish ME3. Shep has disapeared but the child they had with liara is still alive along with liara which is within cannon and happened just before the last push in 3 with the bonding. I would want this tobe the played char. No one knows that they are sheps son/daughter as liara has hidden it from everyone.

As im guessing that the cannon ending destruction and obviously not all synthetic life is destroyed (Catalyst lied to try and save itself) as kasumi goto and jack both survive and edi isnt actualy shown as dead with the rest of the people who come up who died like thane, legion and whoever you left in 1 not to mention shep never left the ground and it was anderson who actualy set off the mega weapon and died. Because within cannon the protheans turned off the signal for the keepers, but there is every reason the moddified the catalyst so it was no longer in control nor could communicate with them, eg why didnt the reapers know it was the catalyst, because they never created the citidel :wizard:

Now as from this standing the reapers didnt just wipe out this universes life every 50000 years but also destroyed another universes life every 50000 years so 25000 years between harvesting/ converting eg collectors which is why they had so many reapers but dark space is what keeps the 2 universes apart.

Between 3 and the new 4 Javik realises that there is a darker enemy then the reapers. He goes to shep and informs them of what he has found out from a beacon found on feros that without the reapers that the previously controled races in the other universe are now uncontrolled and were sheilded from the catalyst by darkspace and the fact there were no mass relays joined beyond the dark space since the alpha relay was destroyed (ME2). Liara and Shep take the SR2 to illos to find more info where javik finds vigil still working. They then start to work with liara as the shadow broker molding the plan into work to advance technology to a stage where the new enemy can be defeated.

But something goes wrong and a new war starts out between the yahg who are mostly isolated in me3 and the new enemy, this war spreads and splits the universe into a cold war. With one side thinking the yahgs are the agressors whilst the other side informed by the shadow broker that the new enemy is the real danger and to side with the yahg resulting in the sularians lifting up the yahg.

Now jump 300 years ahead like previously stated and half the universe think shep is a hero, the other half think shep was a terrorist working on council orders who destroyed the old gods (reapers). Shep and liaras child is now put in a corner, they cant come out and state they are sheps son/daughter and the child isnt a normal asari, they arnt mono gender, they arnt blue but they can be strong biotics and are immune to mind control like shep was. Whatever happened to shep with the 1st beacon altered there genes to something more then just human not to mention what miranda did to bring them back from the dead  resulting in this child being as such.

The child isnt in the militery, is about 300 years old but with the longevity of an asari so still quite young and whos best friend is a female fully aware AI formaly known as EDI who gave up the name after becoming fully self aware. EDI is no longer in EVAS body as that was primerily reaper tech and thus destroyed by the catalyst but she remained alive within the ship and unharmed.

From there pretty much any new trilogy can be spring boarded from even to the extent that javik and shep could have gone into cryo sleep and grunt and wrex could still be running about as grunt was only 2 years old at the end of ME3 and wrex stated he was alteast 900 years old so who knows how long krogans can live.


 Ow and no MMO, maybe CO-OP modes but no mmo, it would ruin Mass effect. Also Doing this or something like this would allow for the trilogy saves to cross over. Not for shep but sheps child and who they might meet and get help from but also the politics of the council, geth etc in 4-infinity.


 On that note, scanning and exploring in 1 was alot of fun, upgrading the ship and asking crew for upgrades was really nice in 2, possibly in 4 get them to visit the crash site of sr1 and grab the mako but have a different type of ship then the sr2, something more scruffy that you have to fix up as you go along so you can go futher and faster thus unlocking maps that way. Also please please please bring back the puzzles for unlocking doors and boxs etc from 1 and 2.

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[quote]SomniariKess1124 wrote...

[quote]shingara wrote...

I would want ME4 tobe set 300 ish years ahead about the same time the cutscene is shown when you finish ME3. Shep has disapeared but the child they had with liara is still alive along with liara which is within cannon and happened just before the last push in 3 with the bonding. I would want this tobe the played char. No one knows that they are sheps son/daughter as liara has hidden it from everyone.

But what about those of us who didn't pick liara? What about those of us who love Tali, or Garrus?

As im guessing that the cannon ending destruction and obviously not all synthetic life is destroyed (Catalyst lied) as kasumi goto and jack both survive and edi isnt actualy shown as dead with the rest of the people who come up who died like thane, legion and whoever you left in 1 not to mention shep never left the ground and it was anderson who actualy set off the mega weapon and died. Because within cannon the protheans turned off the signal for the keepers, but there is every reason the moddified the catalyst so it was no longer in control nor could communicate with them, eg why didnt the reapers know it was the catalyst, because they never created the citidel :wizard: 

You also have to consider the other two methods, Synthesis and Control?

Now as from this standing the reapers didnt just wipe out this universes life every 50000 years but also destroyed another universes life every 50000 years so 25000 years between harvesting/ converting eg collectors which is why they had so many reapers but dark space is what keeps the 2 universes apart.

So... they go between galaxies and wipe out everything in it's path?

Between 3 and the new 4 Javik realises that there is a darker enemy then the reapers. He goes to shep and informs them of what he has found out from a beacon found on feros that without the reapers that the previously controled races in the other universe are now uncontrolled and were sheilded from the catalyst by darkspace and the fact there were no mass relays joined beyond the dark space since the alpha relay was destroyed (ME2). Liara and Shep take the SR2 to another planet to find deeper info. They then start to work with liara as the shadow broker molding the plan into work to advance technology to a stage where the new enemy can be defeated.

There are those of us who didn't have From Ashes DLC you know. Besides, Liara is officially acknowledged as Writer's Pet. And even then, Liara can still die if you have the suckiest Effective Military Strength the world has ever seen.

But something goes wrong and a new war starts out between the yahg who are mostly isolated in me3 and the new enemy, this war spreads and splits the universe into a cold war. With one side thinking the yahgs are the agressors whilst the other side informed by the shadow broker that the new enemy is the real danger and to side with the yahg resulting in the sularians lifting up the yahg.

The old Shadow Broker was a Yahg. And following war with war? The reapers aren't something you just pick up and dust yourself off with.

Now jump 300 years ahead like previously stated and half the universe think shep is a hero, the other half think shep was a terrorist working on council orders who destroyed the old gods (reapers). Shep and liaras child is now put in a corner, they cant come out and state they are sheps son/daughter and the child isnt a normal asari, they arnt mono gender, they arnt blue but they can be strong biotics and are immune to mind control like shep was. Whatever happened to shep with the 1st beacon altered there genes to something more then just human not to mention what miranda did to bring them back from the dead  resulting in this child being as such.

Again, Liara isn't the only LI out there. I want some garrus and tali babies dammit! And if they think that Shep's a terrorist, that's a lot of indoctrinated people out there.

[quote]The child isnt in the militery, is about 300 years old but with the longevity of an asari so still quite young and whos best friend is a female fully aware AI formaly known as EDI who gave up the name after becoming fully self aware. EDI is no longer in EVAS body as that was primerily reaper tech and thus destroyed by the catalyst but she remained alive within the ship and unharmed. [quote]

Well at least we don't have to look at EVAS cameltoe anymore.

From there pretty much any new trilogy can be spring boarded from even to the extent that javik and shep could have gone into cryo sleep and grunt and wrex could still be running about as grunt was only 2 years old at the end of ME3 and wrex stated he was alteast 900 years old so who knows how long krogans can live.


 Ow and no MMO, maybe CO-OP modes but no mmo, it would ruin Mass effect. Also Doing this or something like this would allow for the trilogy saves to cross over. Not for shep but sheps child and who they might meet and get help from but also the politics of the council, geth etc in 4-infinity.[quote]

No MMO I agree. But again, until I see Garrus or Tali babies, I will protest.

On that note, scanning and exploring in 1 was alot of fun, upgrading the ship and asking crew for upgrades was really nice in 2, possibly in 4 get them to visit the crash site of sr1 and grab the mako but have a different type of ship then the sr2, something more scruffy that you have to fix up as you go along so you can go futher and faster thus unlocking maps that way. Also please please please bring back the puzzles for unlocking doors and boxs etc from 1 and 2.

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Not trolling here, just pointing out the flaws in your plan. it's constructive!

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SomniariKess1124

But what about those of us who didn't pick liara? What about those of us who love Tali, or Garrus.


 Doesnt matter what you do or who you romance, liara bonds with you at the end of 3.

SomniariKess1124  You also have to consider the other two methods, Synthesis and Control?


Follow the cutscenes shown at the choice and with shep surviving 3 and waking up on the ground destruction is the only cannon ending.

SomniariKess1124  So... they go between galaxies and wipe out everything in it's path?

Soverign just stated they went into dark space, never said that they dint go beyond it and if the reapers removed all evoled life do you think they would stop at one universe.

SomniariKess1124 There are those of us who didn't have From Ashes DLC you know. Besides,
Liara is officially acknowledged as Writer's Pet. And even then, Liara
can still die if you have the suckiest Effective Military Strength the
world has ever seen.


 You dont need ashes, if you didnt get him, cerberus did, and he would have more then likly escaped. And it doesnt matter who dies on the final push, see where me3 saves the file. And if you didnt notice shep dies at the start of 2, didnt stop them from coming back.

SomniariKess1124 Again, Liara isn't the only LI out there. I want some garrus and tali babies dammit!


 And again doesnt matter, liara will bond with you before the final push even if she isnt your LI.

SomniariKess1124 Well at least we don't have to look at EVAS cameltoe anymore.


??? I think your reffering to Eve not Eva.

SomniariKess1124 No MMO I agree. But again, until I see Garrus or Tali babies, I will protest.


 You very well could, in cannon tali and garrus are lovers. And not trolling here but you really cant quote. Just being constructive and pointing out your flaws.
 

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Doesnt matter what you do or who you romance, liara bonds with you at the end of 3.


Soo.. liara is morrigan?


Follow the cutscenes shown at the choice and with shep surviving 3 and waking up on the ground destruction is the only cannon ending.


Again, you have to consider the fact that shep can die. I know I don't like that fact either, but Synthesis was clearly the 'neutral choice' from the start, and that's default shep.


You dont need ashes, if you didnt get him, cerberus did, and he would have more then likly escaped. And it doesnt matter who dies on the final push, see where me3 saves the file. And if you didnt notice shep dies at the start of 2, didnt stop them from coming back.


Poor shep's already died once, and project lazarus was Cerberus, which is the Illusive Man, who is dead, presumably.


And again doesnt matter, liara will bond with you before the final push even if she isnt your LI.


Again, liara now sounds like morrigan.


??? I think your reffering to Eve not Eva.


Nope... definitely EDI/EVA.

http://static.giantb...31231487295.jpg
Hint: look between her legs.


You very well could, in cannon tali and garrus are lovers. And not trolling here but you really cant quote. Just being constructive and pointing out your flaws.


Again, there is more than liara. get out, go play other romances. And again, you have to think more than just canon. Trust me, the Talimancers will hate your guts if you take her out of the picture. And just go look at the "No Shepard Without Vakarian" forum and you'll understand.

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and plus, you have to consider the fact that there are fans out there who hate Liara with a passion. I personally think she's an emotional trainwreck who cries way too much. Just do the priority: thessia and you'll know.

that, and you can't force people into stuff. and if this game hasn't done it already, doing that will ruin the franchise to where ME4 won't even matter anymore. Just sayin', forcing people into stuff like liara romance and canon, won't turn out pretty.

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Would want the game to end on a high note in the style of ME1 and ME2 instead of a bitter conclusion like ME3. That is my main wish for the next game, along with way less auto dialogue then ME3. It really kills the game seeing choices and conversations removed in favor of auto dialogue in its place.

More fleshed out characters and squad mates in the style of ME2, which was tons better in that way then ME3.

Gameplay wise its pretty much fine in its curernt form.

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No more shepards.
I want to play as a asari or the another races like we did in the mp.
No more human character restrict.

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SomniariKess1124 wrote...

Soo.. liara is morrigan?



 Dont see you dying do you, no liara gives shepard a gift on the final push, she performs the bonding /end

 And im assuming your talking about morinth as morrigan isnt even part of this game nor any cannon in mass effect universe unless there following wreck it ralph.

SomniariKess1124 wrote...

Again, you have to consider the fact that shep can die. I know I don't like that fact either, but Synthesis was clearly the 'neutral choice' from the start, and that's default shep.


 Consider ???? they have died once, and you have to concur that shep may now be unkillable in the common sense due to there implants and what lazarus actualy did to them. And synthesis is never going to work, its a ploy by the reapers to destroy shep and anyone else who tries to fire the weapon, vigil states it and so does vendetta as a plot previously employed by the reapers to stop the sentient species winning. As synthesis is exactly what the reapers are doing to the species before they are defeated. The joining of synthetics and organics in union and more then likly how harbringer was created from leviathon in the 1st place.

SomniariKess1124 wrote...

Poor shep's already died once, and project lazarus was Cerberus, which is the Illusive Man, who is dead, presumably.


 Whilst lazarus was cerberus funded it was miranda who did it, there is no reason that info couldnt have been stolen by someone, i dont know like the shadow broker. Miranda could have given that info to the shadow broker when she realised it was liara. Edi could have even nabbed the info from the cerberus base in the 2nd to last mission. Not forgetting the fact that the illusive man may have been the leader but cerberus run in cells none dependent on other cells, just because the illusive man is gone doesnt mean cerberus is.

SomniariKess1124 wrote...

Again, liara now sounds like morrigan.


In what universe does she ?

SomniariKess1124 wrote...

Again, there is more than liara. get out, go play other romances. And again, you have to think more than just canon. Trust me, the Talimancers will hate your guts if you take her out of the picture. And just go look at the "No Shepard Without Vakarian" forum and you'll understand.



  Lets get one thing straight, this idea is for 300 years in the future, garus, tali and everyone minus grunt, liara, aria and edi wont even be alive still at that point unless they throw them all in the fridge with javik.  And just for the record ive done the game god knows how many times and romanced everyone bar kaidon.

SomniariKess1124 wrote...
and plus, you have to consider the fact that there are fans out there
who hate Liara with a passion. I personally think she's an emotional
trainwreck who cries way too much. Just do the priority: thessia and
you'll know.


Im just wondering do you think your the only person who has played the trilogy ?.  And even if liara is the mom it gives a hell of a twist on the renegade options opened up if done.

SomniariKess1124 wrote...
that, and you can't force people into stuff. and if
this game hasn't done it already, doing that will ruin the franchise to
where ME4 won't even matter anymore. Just sayin', forcing people into
stuff like liara romance and canon, won't turn out pretty.


  Sorry but are you accusing me of forcing something that is cannon?

 Do the final push and the goodbyes to all and the gift from liara is bonding. And again thats even if you arnt there LI, And if you dont accept the gift it can always be Sha'ira or even Shiala.  And in closing you still think this is based on something that is gonna start up 3 days after ME3 finishes. And the answer to that is no its either gonna be way in the future or a prequel/mmo that will never work.  And the only way to make the save files from trilogy to pass over in some way is to set it way in the future where shep isnt a viable player option to take on whilst retaining the retail and fan allurment of doing the 1-3 trilogy in the future.


 And my very principle behind shep having a child and being so far in the future is that asari are the only race that can have children with any species, they have the longevity to live over 300 years and still be young and be hitting a transitional stage aka maturity. To have sheps child who may not even look asari but with the option to if wished and to unlock it from mono gender makes them unique and opens up thousands of story arcs into the future. And doing this whilst retaining a link to the save files from 1-3 to be used with some integrity.

 Because within the confines of thinking that sheps genes that allows them to access and retain the beacon data that changed there genes to mutate within prothean and immunity to indoctrination along with the lazarus project, because god knows what type of gene therapy they did to get them up and running again along with liaras liniage as 1/4 krogan means you could create either a krogan, humanoid or asari looking char to the limits that you could retain any species inherited to liara herself through her mother and fathers side whilst retaining the genes from asari that propergate such longevity.

 The child itself and us doesnt even have to be aware that we are sheps son or daughter or that liara is the mother. For all intense and purpose the galaxy at that point could have crumbled into technical disarray with infighting and criminal empires. It could be Aria who looks after the child and keeping the identity of the child secret raising them as her own. The child could start out as a merc rebeling against aria or siding with her with a majorly upgraded omega now being a main hub on par with the citidel that is now stranded at earth.

 The fact all that is shep and all that is liara/shadowbroker is imbued into the child opens up alot too. You as the child could have flashbacks or full access of the cypher and beacon data but do not know how to understand it. On that sense you could be a true force for evil or a true force for good. With taking that longevity into mind aswell there are key old crew members that based on your choices through 1-3 can in small or large ways interact with any new game when even that far into the future without breaking or twisting any cannon set down right now.

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Ok taken some feedback and refined my idea.

  The universe is 300 ish years after mass effect 3 has finished. You see a cutscene of some scientists taking readings from a red dwarf star and discussing the readings. A scientist is seen rushing to a leader on the station and hands them a datapad but cant talk due to them being out of breath.  The leader takes the datapad and reads and you see an alarmed look on there face, they push the person who gave them the datapad out of the way and hands the datapad to a quarian (with or without armour) and sounds the alert to abandon ship.

 The leader looks at the quarian and states " The dark energy is reacting too fast, this hasnt worked. Its to late for us, send that data now".

 Then boom, you see the star explode engulfing the station and evacuating ships. Intros to the game now start. You see the title for the new mass effect, glimpses and looks at the universe. A scene of the citidel over earth, a newer larger version of omega, freighter and fighter ships exiting and entering omega etc etc etc. Now the scene shifts to a turian prison complex. You see alliance/turain soldiers the base. A human and sularian walk down a corridor being saluted by sentrys as they enter a large room.

"Are you sure this is the only option, this could be bad, very bad" says the sularian, nervous and sweat running alongs its brow " We need that data, this isnt even an option. This is our only hope" replys the Human as he scans the room.

 With this you see the human nod to a turian guard at a control panel. The guard hits a button and a prison cryo unit in the center of the room flanked by 2 other cryo units starts to raise from the ground. The human and sularian walk towards the central cryo unit and the human wafts the mist away with a hand. The mist clears and you see a humanoid covered in a large biotic reflecting suit unit and a full face guard covering there face with a small perspex window near there mouth, breath misting upon it.

 You hear the human say, "Shepard, wake up!" , nothing happens. The sullarian looks at the human " the Shadow broker is not going to be happy you have there child, this could mean war" , the human looks down onto the sulariun with piercing eyes and then looks deep into the masked face " shepard i said WAKE UP" and with that you see blue lights flicker into life on the mask and the shape surges forwards. The sularian jumps back in fear whilst the human stands still, not flinching just inches away from the masked prisoner.

"Do not use my fathers name!" state the prisoner, the voice metalic, none generic from the interferance from the mask, " why have you come for me, am i finaly to die".

"No, (insert pause) we actualy need you for a change, release them" states the human backing away point at the other 2 cryo units.
 
The other 2 cryo units start to raise. The first starts to open and explodes with a yahg bursting from it, biotic red streaming along its arms as if fire is dancing along is chared skin. From the other unit you just hear a giggle, the mist envolping the unit, twirling, rising and falling in a mesmeric dance as if directed from the user within.

 Stand down states the main prisoner. At which the yahg relaxes and leans against a wall, "they actualy need us, but why" states the yahg.

 The human looks down, " the promethian fail safes are starting" states the human, "The suns are going out and you are our only hope"

 The giggles in the far cryo chamber get louder and louder whilst the mist turns into electric blue flames twirling with an orange tinge, the guards near it back away in fear, the sulrian hides behind the Yahg, through a small screen in the mask you seen the main prisoner start to smile, cutscene ends.


 From here you goto char creation, can create through multiple species options for facial looks and builds, male or female and the option for import history from tirlogy.

  The new game idea is based in the future. What tali found within the sun being effected by dark energy was a failsafe created the protheans incase they failed a second time. But none exist anymore who know how to stop it and the only key is the data passed down from father to child.

The main enemy your going against is a new faction of cerberus left over from before intent on gaining the power to destroy suns as a weapon. They are no longer purly interested in humans, they believe in a pure breed of heavy cybornetic interfaced with AI adaptations of any species. They belive the true path is man and machine combined. Most of cerberus are driven mad from the enhancments that have been hacked by an unknown source and wish to convert any and all races to there beliefs.

Others are races subjegated from old zha'til tech yet appose cerberus but very little is known about them, They were first interacted with close to 200 years ago, Led by an AI close to 300 years old according to records and have traded and helped the alliance and even criminal empires linked to omega in the passed but hold no allegance with either. There are also new races found after ME3 are caught in the middle of whom mainly the Yahg seem tobe the most prominent and a new member of the council races.

 The universe is traped between martial law and criminal a rebelious empires who wish to be controled by neither and fall under the flag of a greatly improved and substationaly larger omega who have unlocked the secrets of the omega 4 relay. The Shadow Broker has been a recluse for close to 150 years, no one has seen them or even know what species they are. Only that they have a child who has fallen under the sway of the warlord of omega and is a criminal mastermind supposidly trained by the legendery kasumi goto, there crew pirates one of which is most definatly insane but totaly loyal to the child since being rescued from a cerberus research prison and the other a yahg who is exhiled from his own world.

 Does the new main char allow the data to corrupt them as the unlock more of the knowlegde locked within there minds, become insane and as evil as the omega warlord wants or hold onto what makes them strong. Are they the criminal bain of the universe or its last saviour and who do they hold allegance to, the shadowbroker, omega or someone else entirly.

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