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[prosthetic soul]

Apparently, now Mac Walters wants some ideas for Mass Effect 4. 

 

I obliged.   And oh boy did I give him some "ideas"

[God]

I am not okay with a canonized outcome where my Shepard butchered EDI and the geth to stop the Reapers.

 

Then your Shepard either took control, synthesized, or refused.

 

That is the only canon you can have. Headcanon and fanfiction is not canon.

 

You have 4 choices. Pick one. Anything else didn't happen.

[prosthetic soul]

Then your Shepard either took control, synthesized, or refused.

 

That is the only canon you can have. Headcanon and fanfiction is not canon.

 

You have 4 choices. Pick one. Anything else didn't happen.

Casey Hudson, please.  We all know it's you. 

[God]

Well, they are the ones making the canon. You can either live with it or move on to something else. But you can't deny it, and you can't ignore it.

 

One of four outcomes occurred. It's up to you to decide which one happened.

[Tonymac]

Apparently, now Mac Walters wants some ideas for Mass Effect 4. 

 

I obliged.   And oh boy did I give him some "ideas"

Did you suggest that he quit his job and get a challenging career in the food service industry, or perhaps cleaning port-a-jonhs?

[Balsam Beige]

Well, they are the ones making the canon. You can either live with it or move on to something else. But you can't deny it, and you can't ignore it.
 
One of four outcomes occurred. It's up to you to decide which one happened.

I do deny. I do ignore. The four choices given did not occur in my Mass Effect world state. Story over.

[God]

I do deny. I do ignore. The four choices given did not occur in my Mass Effect world state. Story over.

 

But it did. Whether you choose to deny it or ignore it. They happen, and they will always happen. Story complete.

[Balsam Beige]

But it did. Whether you choose to deny it or ignore it. They happen, and they will always happen. Story complete.

Wow! All four ending choices given, happened in your world state. Cool!

[B.Shep]

I do deny. I do ignore. The four choices given did not occur in my Mass Effect world state. Story over.

You don't own ME so those choices don't need your acknowledgment to exist, only bioware can say what will or will not occur in the future of the ME universe.

[Balsam Beige]

You don't own ME so those choices don't need your acknowledgment to exist, only bioware can say what will or will not occur in the future of the ME universe.

What does what bioware chooses to happen in MENext have to do with what I choose to acknowledge happened in my world state of the trilogy? Absolutely nothing. Shepard's story is over.

The MEHEM mod is just a variation of the destroy ending. The only thing that changes is no star brat.

If there is a kodex entry about the brat in MENext, I will ignore it. Shouldn't effect anything.

[The Arbiter]

Then your Shepard either took control, synthesized, or refused.

 

That is the only canon you can have. Headcanon and fanfiction is not canon.

 

You have 4 choices. Pick one. Anything else didn't happen.

which means we do not know the true outcome of the milky way galaxy since it is impossible to accept all endings as canon since they have totally different outcomes. This would of course not matter if Bioware is planning a total Restart or Reboot of the franchise which would scrap everything wherein If I am not mistaken they did decide to end MASS EFFECT with 3 and I am not sure if ME4 would even be called Mass Effect. If however, Bioware would decide a sequel this could be catastrophic since there is absolutely no way we know for sure what Shepard chose... the Milky Way our own HOME GALAXY for crying out loud is currently unkown... the only way to move forward now is "Ark theory" even then the ARK theory has its own problems... I have communicated with different fans with different views including the creator of the Ark theory and all have concluded that ME3'S ending was indeed a mess the other approach which Bioware may take is  "Restart" or even possibly indoctrination

[The Arbiter]

Well, they are the ones making the canon. You can either live with it or move on to something else. But you can't deny it, and you can't ignore it.

 

One of four outcomes occurred. It's up to you to decide which one happened.

If I was in Shepard's boots? I WOULD GIVE THAT STAR CHILD THE BIGGEST FU in the history of the Milky Way Galaxy and radio Hacket to target the cylinders attached in the Crucible and BOMBARD IT TO KINGDOM COME and radio Joker for pick up.

[God]

Wow! All four ending choices given, happened in your world state. Cool!

 

They happened in yours too. Whether you choose to admit it or not.

 

MEHEM is not canon. It's a fan-mod. It will not be reflected in the next ME.

[God]

If I was in Shepard's boots? I WOULD GIVE THAT STAR CHILD THE BIGGEST FU in the history of the Milky Way Galaxy and radio Hacket to target the cylinders attached in the Crucible and BOMBARD IT TO KINGDOM COME and radio Joker for pick up.

 

And then what? Watch as the Reapers kept on annihilating the Crucible and the allied fleets? Because that's what would happen.

 

You want to stop the Catalyst and the Reapers? You have 3 options that do it. Do they have consequences? Yes. But if you want to beat the Reapers, you're going to have to live with them.

[Shepard-Tali]

Honestly, I don't care if they decide to canonize one of the choices, although the only one I can see them doing is the Destroy ending, as that's probably the easiest to come back from since the consequences aren't as massive as synthesis or control, cos they can just rebuild any synthetics that they wanted to. I don't care if they choose one ending and run with it, as long as the new game is a sequel and not an alternative universe or a prequel. I've seen people use KOTOR as an example of a good prequel but I think it's slightly different since we know that the Reapers are just gonna wipe out their cycle, if it's set quite far back. 

 

When I say sequel, I don't mind if it's set in another galaxy, since there were pictures of N7 armor, implying that there is a connection to the Milky Way and the humans in some way. I just want there to be some connection to the original trilogy. When talking about the genre, I just hope it stays as an RPG with a proper protagonist, not like some RPGs where the guy doesn't speak and it's just a blank slate guy.. One of the things I loved about Mass Effect is that Commander Shepard is such a good protagonist and he's an actual character rather than just a blank conduit for which the player plays through. That probably doesn't make much sense, but I'm talking about people like the Player Character in the fallout games, who never speaks.

 

Honestly, i'd be so happy if the game was just a new Mass Effect Trilogy set after ME3, with a Player Character like Commander Shepard. I like the idea of the Mass Relay technology growing where people can travel to new galaxies, and your character is one of the members of an exploratory team who goes through these new Relays. There is so much scope for where they can go.

 

And I want there to be Quarians because I've seen a few people say that they don't think that they'll be around 

 

Edit: Sorry if this is offtopic, but I mean, this thread is like 3 years old and i'm just saying what i'd want the next ME game to be about. 

[The Arbiter]

And then what? Watch as the Reapers kept on annihilating the Crucible and the allied fleets? Because that's what would happen.

 

You want to stop the Catalyst and the Reapers? You have 3 options that do it. Do they have consequences? Yes. But if you want to beat the Reapers, you're going to have to live with them.

BLOWING THE CYLINDERS TRIGGERS THE DESTROY ENDING instead of shooting it with a hand gun put a freaking C4 on it instead and get the hell out PROBLEM SOLVED! "BUT" Hacket's fleet are being engaged! NOPE EVEN A SINGLE FIGHTER COULD SWOOP IN AND KAMIKAZE

[Balsam Beige]

They happened in yours too. Whether you choose to admit it or not.

 

MEHEM is not canon. It's a fan-mod. It will not be reflected in the next ME.

How can they happen in my world state if i did not choose them? At Virmire, Kaidan dies at the bomb in my world state.  Are you saying that both Kaidan and Ashley survived because bioware made them an option available? Your saying that I must admit that Kaidan is alive in me3 because it is possible that some players chose to save him? Kaidan surviving happened? No, I do not have to admit it.

 

Same applies to the four ending choices given. Synthesis, control and the star brat do not happen in my canon world state. I do not have to admit that they did.

 

Bioware wrote the ending choices to be open ended. Shepard breathes in the official destroy ending. Shepard lives in the MEHEM ending. Same difference. Edi and the geth die in the official destroy ending, true. If I do not see them in MENext it won't effect my canon ending. They just won't be involved. If a kodex entry talks about Edi and the geth dying because of Shepard's choice, I can just ignore it. Shouldn't effect my playthrough.  

 

As far as MEHEM being reflected in MENext. Of course not. 

 

We can go around and around with this.

[B.Shep]

No we cant. MEHEN is fandom so it means nothing to the ME Universe canon.

You want to play it, then sure that is your choice but don't forget that by the end of day only Control, Destroy or Synthesis are the true choices.

[Balsam Beige]

No we cant. MEHEN is fandom so it means nothing to the ME Universe canon.
You want to play it, then sure that is your choice but don't forget that by the end of day only Control, Destroy or Synthesis are the true choices.

I do forget.

The given ending choices were rubbish.

[God]

BLOWING THE CYLINDERS TRIGGERS THE DESTROY ENDING instead of shooting it with a hand gun put a freaking C4 on it instead and get the hell out PROBLEM SOLVED! "BUT" Hacket's fleet are being engaged! NOPE EVEN A SINGLE FIGHTER COULD SWOOP IN AND KAMIKAZE

 

Then you'd get the exact same ending. Plus, you'd probably cause more collateral damage to the crucible than actually activating it. As well as killing Shepard.

 

It's best if you just shoot the pipe with your Carnifex.

[God]

How can they happen in my world state if i did not choose them? At Virmire, Kaidan dies at the bomb in my world state.  Are you saying that both Kaidan and Ashley survived because bioware made them an option available? Your saying that I must admit that Kaidan is alive in me3 because it is possible that some players chose to save him? Kaidan surviving happened? No, I do not have to admit it.

 

Same applies to the four ending choices given. Synthesis, control and the star brat do not happen in my canon world state. I do not have to admit that they did.

 

Bioware wrote the ending choices to be open ended. Shepard breathes in the official destroy ending. Shepard lives in the MEHEM ending. Same difference. Edi and the geth die in the official destroy ending, true. If I do not see them in MENext it won't effect my canon ending. They just won't be involved. If a kodex entry talks about Edi and the geth dying because of Shepard's choice, I can just ignore it. Shouldn't effect my playthrough.  

 

As far as MEHEM being reflected in MENext. Of course not. 

 

We can go around and around with this.

 

The choice was presented to you, and you had two options. You don't get to make a third choice. Either Ashley lives, or Kaidan lives.

 

In ME3, you have 4 options. Nothing else. Either Destroy, synthesis, control, or refuse is picked. Nothing else.

 

They wrote the endings themselves to be open ended. They didn't leave any opening for you to fan-****** a new option on the table and make it canon. 

 

Your shepard canonically chose one of 4 possibilities. And yes, he did so, with or without your input. What happens in MEHEM is not your Shepard. It is not Shepard. It is not Mass Effect. It is headcanon and fan fiction. Nothing more.

[God]

I do forget.

The given ending choices were rubbish.

 

But that is all you have. You have no say in the matter over anything different.

[SilJeff]

What does what bioware chooses to happen in MENext have to do with what I choose to acknowledge happened in my world state of the trilogy? Absolutely nothing. Shepard's story is over.

The MEHEM mod is just a variation of the destroy ending. The only thing that changes is no star brat.

If there is a kodex entry about the brat in MENext, I will ignore it. Shouldn't effect anything.

 

If all MEHEM is is Destroy minus the catalyst, destroy is your canon ending.

[The Arbiter]

Then you'd get the exact same ending. Plus, you'd probably cause more collateral damage to the crucible than actually activating it. As well as killing Shepard.

 

It's best if you just shoot the pipe with your Carnifex.

killing shepard? RADIO Joker for pick up> then either 1> Radio hacket or any available fighters to shoot those stupid cylinders or tell Garrus to put a single bullet into those stupid cylinders while you and your crew flies away [Garus can just snipe those BS cylinders while you are boarding the Normandy]! heck even before meeting that stupid casper ghost kid Hacket contacted you then suddenly Shepard just gives in? dafuq is this brah?

 

[Balsam Beige]

The choice was presented to you, and you had two options. You don't get to make a third choice. Either Ashley lives, or Kaidan lives.
 
In ME3, you have 4 options. Nothing else. Either Destroy, synthesis, control, or refuse is picked. Nothing else.
 
They wrote the endings themselves to be open ended. They didn't leave any opening for you to fan-****** a new option on the table and make it canon. 
 
Your shepard canonically chose one of 4 possibilities. And yes, he did so, with or without your input. What happens in MEHEM is not your Shepard. It is not Shepard. It is not Mass Effect. It is headcanon and fan fiction. Nothing more.

LOL

My Shepard did no such thing. I have complete control over my Shepard.

MEHEM is not bioware head canon. It's just a choice. A choice I chose to make. It won't effect MENext in the slightest.