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[Kathleen321]

doragonburesu wrote...

Mass Effect franchise should be rebooted from the ground . It can take place not only in Milky Way but in 1st nearest Galaxy, Andromeda . New alien races, more advanced technology , new threat involved .

I agree with this. A fresh start is preferable.

Modifié par Kathleen321, 02 octobre 2012 - 04:24 .

[Getorex]

This is EASY. It's also win-win. You scuttle ME3 entirely by making it just a dream, ala the original "Dallas" TV show with the death/non-death of Bobby. His death (and ENTIRE season of the show) turns out to be a dream. So, ME4 starts shortly after ME2. Shepard comes to consciousness in a hospital at the Citadel or onboard the Normandy. Everyone was soooo worried. See, it seems that Shepard had taken injuries in the last fight AND was suffering indoctrination sickness a bit too. But now he's better and waking up from an ABSOLUTE NIGHTMARE that was the entire game of ME3. ME4 starts from there. Your subsequent crew will be large, like in ME2, and potentially made up of many of the same crewmembers from ME1 and ME2. No Jersey Shore steroided up morons on the crew, no VERY creepy reporter chick. Total reboot. Best of all, Red, Blue, and Green vanish with the end of Shepard's dream. He shakes it off and the REAL ME3, called "Mass Effect 4" begins and the REAL fight against the Reapers begins. No retardation. No brain farts. No plot holes. No self-contradiction and blatant violation of previous game lore. Fixed. Fans come back in droves instead of stay away in droves.

[Kunari801]

IsaacShep wrote...

No prequels, no MMO, no pure FPS/action/action-adventure game.

I really want another ME RPG trilogy, set AFTER ME3 and with a new hero we can customize like Shep and transfer throughout 3 games.

Plz Bioware!

Agreed. Set it 50 or more years post-war, the galaxy is rebuilding, you're a new Spectre on the trail of some mercs who tried to assassinate a Citadel Councilor. During the mission you find that the mercs were not alone...

Synthsis: Everyone's skin has that green glow.
Destroy: Citadel still in Earth orbit, some races a bit more distrustful of Humans,
Control: Citadel returned to nebula

[Unit-Alpha]

I think a sequel is more than doable. That's what I want, to be honest.

[Getorex]

Unit-Alpha wrote...

I think a sequel is more than doable. That's what I want, to be honest.

So long as the sequel starts 10 minutes prior to the ending in that 3rd thing that followed Mass Effect 2.  In this sequel there is no red, blue, or green.  No starchild, no ridiculousness, no fail.  Shepard continues doing Shepardy stuff to get to a real conclusion.

Modifié par Getorex, 03 octobre 2012 - 02:26 .

[TheSeventhJedi]

Magiseth wrote...

Casey, I want you to not make another Mass Effect.

You have already done enough damage to my favorite game series.

And if you ignore this, and make one, I promise you, I will not buy it. Do not waste your time. Make another game. Any other game. Mass Effect has told it's story. Leave it alone.

Please, Casey, do not make another Mass Effect.

A million times this.  Sorry Casey, if reports are correct, it's you and you alone who DESTROYED the franchise.  If you never touch another game again, the players will be the better for it.

Also, try very hard not to spew outright lies about the next game.

[Getorex]

TheSeventhJedi wrote...

Magiseth wrote...

Casey, I want you to not make another Mass Effect.

You have already done enough damage to my favorite game series.

And if you ignore this, and make one, I promise you, I will not buy it. Do not waste your time. Make another game. Any other game. Mass Effect has told it's story. Leave it alone.

Please, Casey, do not make another Mass Effect.

A million times this.  Sorry Casey, if reports are correct, it's you and you alone who DESTROYED the franchise.  If you never touch another game again, the players will be the better for it.

Also, try very hard not to spew outright lies about the next game.

Oh yeah? "A million times this" eh? Well I say, a BILLION times this. HAH! I win.   Also, NO MOVIE. Don't add insult to fatal injury.  

Deus Ex: Human Revolution is going to be a movie.  THAT is something to look forward to.

[daigakuinsei]

Part of me wants ME3 to be a dream, but then other parts were so good like curing the Genophage.

I'll miss Shep :/

[zioninzion]

daigakuinsei wrote...

Part of me wants ME3 to be a dream, but then other parts were so good like curing the Genophage.

I'll miss Shep :/

Unless Shepard isn't done. I know I know they said his story is over. But they also said your decisions will matter And they also gave rise to Indoctrination Theory. Im convinced - or near convinced - Shepard is coming back in some form or another.

[CaIIisto]

zioninzion wrote...

daigakuinsei wrote...

Part of me wants ME3 to be a dream, but then other parts were so good like curing the Genophage.

I'll miss Shep :/

Unless Shepard isn't done. I know I know they said his story is over. But they also said your decisions will matter And they also gave rise to Indoctrination Theory. Im convinced - or near convinced - Shepard is coming back in some form or another.

ME3 was the practice run. Do it properly this time. 

And for the love of all that's holy - stay the f*ck away from the writers when they're doing the end of the game.

[zioninzion]

Bester76 wrote...

zioninzion wrote...

daigakuinsei wrote...

Part of me wants ME3 to be a dream, but then other parts were so good like curing the Genophage.

I'll miss Shep :/

Unless Shepard isn't done. I know I know they said his story is over. But they also said your decisions will matter And they also gave rise to Indoctrination Theory. Im convinced - or near convinced - Shepard is coming back in some form or another.

ME3 was the practice run. Do it properly this time. 

And for the love of all that's holy - stay the f*ck away from the writers when they're doing the end of the game.

But you can't spell Reapers without EA

[CaIIisto]

zioninzion wrote...

Bester76 wrote...

zioninzion wrote...

daigakuinsei wrote...

Part of me wants ME3 to be a dream, but then other parts were so good like curing the Genophage.

I'll miss Shep :/

Unless Shepard isn't done. I know I know they said his story is over. But they also said your decisions will matter And they also gave rise to Indoctrination Theory. Im convinced - or near convinced - Shepard is coming back in some form or another.

ME3 was the practice run. Do it properly this time. 

And for the love of all that's holy - stay the f*ck away from the writers when they're doing the end of the game.

But you can't spell Reapers without EA

Shhh, do not speak its name.....

Modifié par Bester76, 03 octobre 2012 - 12:59 .

[T-Raks]

1. I want the ME series to go forward.
2. ME4 can start during or before the events of ME3 though, to introduce our new protagonist. Maybe an unsung hero of the war against the Reapers - the one that was able to draw Harbinger away from the conduit for example. Boarding a Reaper would be cool!
3. Don't make synthesis canon, because, I'm sorry, but it is presented so badly - forced against the will of everyone - and I can't come up with any story idea after that end. Synthesis just doesn't make any sense to me this way.
4. Post the Reaper war it could be about someone taking control of the Reapers for his own goals in the control ending (maybe a salarian black op organization) or the Leviathans trying to regain their galactic dominance in the destroy ending. The main theme should be either way -> the fight for power in the damaged galaxy, with the new protagonist trying to hold the races together against the new threat. Besides the Leviathans there should also be infighting between some races or splinter groups in the destroy ending.
5. If two different story lines for the two different viable endings are too difficult to implement (though different storylines for different playthroughs was already something I expected for ME3 depending on your choices) make two different games. Or three if you come up with a great story out of the synthesis ending. So you could make another trilogy of parallel games.
6. "If you come up with a great story" is an important point. No matter what you do: don't listen/change too much based on feedback, but come up (or hopefully you already have) with a good story and stick to it from the start to the end. So if you want another trilogy, know now where you want to go in the end so you are sure that you have a great end to the next story in the ME universe.
7. Keep going! I guess that ME is still many people's favorite video game franchise...

Modifié par T-Raks, 03 octobre 2012 - 12:57 .

[Getorex]

zioninzion wrote...

daigakuinsei wrote...

Part of me wants ME3 to be a dream, but then other parts were so good like curing the Genophage.

I'll miss Shep :/

Unless Shepard isn't done. I know I know they said his story is over. But they also said your decisions will matter And they also gave rise to Indoctrination Theory. Im convinced - or near convinced - Shepard is coming back in some form or another.

C'MON!  They also said (repeatedly), "We're listening".   They didn't.  It's done. Over. Finito. Game over, man.

[CaIIisto]

Well they ARE listening. Just not to us.

Probably some self-help tapes on scriptwriting......

[ZeCollectorDestroya]

Burn the movie script and the set.

Make ME4 like DA:O in forms of RPG playstyle

And bring back Shepard.

You can charge me more than $100 for this.

[TheShadowWolf911]

Getorex wrote...

This is EASY. It's also win-win. You scuttle ME3 entirely by making it just a dream, ala the original "Dallas" TV show with the death/non-death of Bobby. His death (and ENTIRE season of the show) turns out to be a dream. So, ME4 starts shortly after ME2. Shepard comes to consciousness in a hospital at the Citadel or onboard the Normandy. Everyone was soooo worried. See, it seems that Shepard had taken injuries in the last fight AND was suffering indoctrination sickness a bit too. But now he's better and waking up from an ABSOLUTE NIGHTMARE that was the entire game of ME3. ME4 starts from there. Your subsequent crew will be large, like in ME2, and potentially made up of many of the same crewmembers from ME1 and ME2. No Jersey Shore steroided up morons on the crew, no VERY creepy reporter chick. Total reboot. Best of all, Red, Blue, and Green vanish with the end of Shepard's dream. He shakes it off and the REAL ME3, called "Mass Effect 4" begins and the REAL fight against the Reapers begins. No retardation. No brain farts. No plot holes. No self-contradiction and blatant violation of previous game lore. Fixed. Fans come back in droves instead of stay away in droves.

i would come back if that happened.

also the characters killed off on twitter (a character should NEVER be killed on Twitter, that is the most DISGUSTING AND LAZY writing i have ever seen in my life, and i've watched 4kids' anime dubs.) being brought back.

nothing about that was acceptable in terms of writing.

[Zyfonite]

I was thinking something similar to what Gemini1179 suggested, along the lines of opening up all (or most, maybe just the main ones like Salarian, Turian, Asari and such) races to be playable in single player, allowing the player to pick his race and class. From there:

1. Start on the chosen race's homeworld as part of either their special forces, or possibly a merc group (doesn't have to be established. We're starting anew, right?), or freelance (this is where your background can come in, not necessarily tied to your choice, just brought in along side it).

2. After character creation, you are thrust into the world. To advance the game, you accept story missions and side missions from a jobs board or something similar and ascend ranking in your chosen organization. Most side missions add to the story or (in)directly have some effect on aspects of it.

3. Along the way, you can meet companions, some tied exclusively to the chosen organization and/or paragon/renegade system, some crossing multiple storylines. Same goes for villains/enemies: Sometimes you rub possible companions the wrong way, and they become your enemy, depending on the decisions you make in the story. Standard, set-in-stone villains exist, as well.

4. You work your way to earning your own ship, beginning your journey working under someone else until you're of high enough rank to have your own (unless you go freelance. Then you get to be a stowaway until you earn enough money from jobs or hijack a ship or something). You still gather companions while on your superior officer's ship (or hiding away in someone's ship), but there is a limit. Or you could get a ship somewhat early in the game, before too many companions accumulate. I'm leaving things open.

5. Customization. Let's have a lot of that. Similar to ME3's armor system, where you choose your helmet, chestplate, shoulder pads, arm guards, and bottoms, but with the addition of more armor, maybe specialized, for instance a set of arm guards that channels biotic energy and changes your melee attack, or a set of bottoms with boosters that allows for quicker dodging, changing a dodge roll into a quicker, further sidestep. And a simpler way to compare armor stats and effects. Add more patterns, and allow the coloration of separate pieces of armor. Same goes for guns. Add an additional mod slot, and flesh out the mods more. Instead of specific ammo, how about a mod that changes the ammo type before the bullet leaves the barrel? Or a mod that adds a shield to the end of an Assault Rifle/Sniper/Shotgun to give slightly more protection/damage reduction when firing from cover? Maybe a stabilization mod that allows for blind fire at reduced accuracy (Scopes wouldn't help. Doesn't make sense that a scope would help blind fire, does it?). And gun color and patterns. But that's just me. There are many things that can be done here.

6. Customize your allies, too. Or let them dress themselves for battle. But don't just have 2 or 3 alternate armor set selections for each character. Same goes for their guns. And why not customize the ship, while we're at it? Nothing major, just 3-4 major components, and the colors and pattern. Internal design would be nice, too, but not totally necessary as long as the ship doesn't look the same as when completely different exterior parts are used.

7. Multiplayer. As much as I enjoyed the multiplayer mode in ME3, focus on the story first. This doesn't necessarily have to arrive in the main game, but it'd be lovely if it was included at some point. And far more fleshed out then 3's. Give us missions with multiple areas, objectives, more than 3 enemy factions, and some complex maps. And, if possible, keep the customization options available in single player. If not, give us different armor sets, not just one standard one. And maybe additional powers for each class, tied to kits, sort of like a new class, but within the constraints of the original class. It's similar to what was done with the Asari Adept/Justicar, but without the need for another character, just a power set. And lore is all up to you. You can do it in the universe, and tie it to lore, or you can just call it a combat simulation, and leave it mostly independent of lore.

And that looks to be all I can come up with right now. Feel free to add anything or change anything, I don't mind.

EDIT: Minor grammatical errors fixed and some clarification added.

Modifié par Zyfonite, 03 octobre 2012 - 06:31 .

[btdhill]

I agree that either a prequel, something that runs concurrently with the originals, or something that takes place long after the fact would be good, because we can't hold on to the Shepard story forever (as much as I do love it).  But, I also get the appeal for something that continues his story, so try this one out in your head.  It might get a little long, so bear with me:

Three critical decision-imports would affect the overall story, others could affect minor aspects as needed.  Those three are:

1. The Final Decision from ME3
2. Who survived the events of the trilogy
3. The love interest

It's shortly after (a few months to a year after) ME3.  First, the 3 possible baseline scenarios based on the final choice you made:

1. Destroy. The Reapers are all gone, the galaxy is starting to rebuild.  The races are working together, but military strength is still at an all-time low and populations have been decimated.  At this desperate time, some new, unknown threat is rising.  Maybe the Leviathans, or possibly some incredibly powerful creatures or race from another galaxy that the Reaper's had a secondary job of keeping away from the Milky Way when they were out in Dark Space (Shepard: "Oops" [not actually in the game]).

2. Control. The Reapers have begun helping to rebuild the galaxy, but suddenly they start disappearing (turns out they're being destroyed by whatever the chosen antagonist is, which you'd find out later).  Eventually one Reaper remains, preserving the consciousness of Shepard, but is unable to do anything about whatever is coming.

3. Synthesis. Same as control, without the one Reaper surviving.  Or maybe even with it surviving, with some semblance of Shepard being transferred with his DNA when it was sent out in the green wave.

Gameplay would bounce between several smaller teams of characters from ME1-3.  For example, Tali and Garrus are both high-level leaders of their people and have been facilitating cooperation between them, occassionally going together to help establish new colonies or to find resources to rebuild, etc.  Dialogue would change based on the romance situation, but at some point they run into trouble on an uncharted world.  Play mission.  Cut to Ashley/Kaidan, James, and Cortez, who are working with the alliance military to oversee building projects and act as liaisons to other species due to their experience working with them.  Just some possibilities, with other teams of characters with their own tasks (Grunt and Wrex working together while constantly competing to see who the better Krogan is could be hilarious).  Whichever team has the love interest would also be involved in its own private, hopeful search for Shepard when possible.

As the game progresses, the storylines come together, then split, then come back together throughout (kind of like the movie Crash, if you will).  If a character from a team died during the series, then that team is down a person.  If the absence of that character makes the team too small to be a good play, then the members of that team are rolled into one of the other storylines.  For players who lost a lot of companions, this could add some replay value to the original games.

Eventually, the storylines all converge and lead up to the climax, with some kind of appearance by Shepard.  Some possibilities would be:

1. Destroy. Shepard was found in the rubble on the Citadel (could have taken a while, since he was in a part no one had seen before).  Whether he is alive or not could depend on the EMS from ME3.

2. Control. The final Reaper recreates Shepard (if Cerberus could do it, you know the Reapers could) to preserve his consciousness before being destroyed.

3. Synthesis. Either Shepard doesn't appear and there's some teary moment as the love interest discovers the search is hopeless, or  something similar to control, depending on how the developers wanted to play this one.

And then Shepard, if alive, helps out in the ending as an NPC.  Or as a playable character he leads his team one final time before riding off into the sunset, and his fans rejoice.

Not perfect, but I think it has possibilities.  Bonus reputation points to anyone who actually read that whole thing.

Modifié par btdhill, 03 octobre 2012 - 06:28 .

[Ski Mask Wei]

Like many have said, The Indoctrination Reset Option is the key. While some might say activating TIRO at Harby's beam is a good spot and I'd say start it even earlier like at the Arrival. This would give you the chance to scrap the Crucible and correct many of the plot mistakes of ME3. It also allows you to keep Shepard who is the heart of the franchise. With Bioware's reputation sunk, the doctors in the wind, and a lot jaded fans left out there do you really want to risk making another ME game without a core part of the series?

Indoctrination is the get out of jail free card. Use it!

[Grizzly46]

I think the entire Mas effect franchise has become so infected that there's really not much to do any longer - not without forcing a canon (for a sequel) or to sink Bioware's reputation even lower with a inquel or prequel.

No, Mass Effect should be left alone. it was a great journey, but considering the flak Bioware has taken, I would really recommend them to start anew with something fresh, and something that holds a viable, believable story, is canon and most importantly gives the players approximately what they want. Oh, and clear guidelines, stating that 'this is the story about X. It is made in Y parts, and when you have played Y, there won't be a sequel.'

That should probably be slapped onto the jewel box for the game...

[preacher0057]

I do hope they are kidding, they screwed up the ending so bad with this one just what do you think they will do with the next. I turned off my X BOX after the ending of Mass 3 and have never turned it back on, so needless to say they make it I will not buy it, they
had lost any trust I had in them...

[LostHH]

How about retconning the series so the reapers never showed up, bring back UNC planets with more variety in the hidden bases, also in line with that change the galaxy map to one where you don't fly a stupid little spaceship representation of the Normandy around like some childrens game. You could also develop loads of planets and systems to add to the galaxy map - the potential for crap loads of dlc man...
Keep the combat mechanics roughly the same as 3. More skills though. Open ended battles rather than corridor shooting.
More dialogue trees/wheels. More politics inbetween the races and the inherent racism that goes with it.

*keeps dreaming*

[Morty Smith]

Please let everyone of the writing staff proof-read and decide upon your vision Casey. Please, just please.

[Getorex]

Grizzly46 wrote...

I think the entire Mas effect franchise has become so infected that there's really not much to do any longer - not without forcing a canon (for a sequel) or to sink Bioware's reputation even lower with a inquel or prequel.

No, Mass Effect should be left alone. it was a great journey, but considering the flak Bioware has taken, I would really recommend them to start anew with something fresh, and something that holds a viable, believable story, is canon and most importantly gives the players approximately what they want. Oh, and clear guidelines, stating that 'this is the story about X. It is made in Y parts, and when you have played Y, there won't be a sequel.'

That should probably be slapped onto the jewel box for the game...

Just...please, just...NOT ANOTHER SWORD AND SORCERY STORY.