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Casey Hudson wants to hear fan's ideas on a new mass effect game


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Tugga_gott wrote...

* Preferably a sequel and less than 100 years after ME3.

* Want our big choices from ME1/2/3 to matter.

* Minimal amount of auto dialog, please.

* More Sci-fi "feel", less explosions and action just because it's cool
and lore/logic > coolness (ex. better with sealed hardsuit than breather mask and spandex).

* Would love to be able to play the story in co-op mode, just something simple like a second player takes control of one squadmate, no other multiplayer is necessary.

* The story doesn't need to be a "saving the galaxy story".

* Be able to play as other races.


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Go to the future and make it a sequel. I don't like it when franchises go back and review what we already know. I'd rather know what's next.

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A sequel with more control over character creation (i.e. choice of race). Basically, give me a game experience that is more similar to mass effect 1, and DA: Origins, but with the combat and inventory management of ME2 and ME3. Quite frankly if ME continues on its on rails course set by 3, I will not buy it. Rest assured that if the review are good I'll purchase any sequel, just know that me pre-ordering a collector's edition will never happen again unless the franchise shifts back to at the least a ME2 paradigm. 

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1. A Sequel (not too far into the future but not close too to the end of the Reaper War *50-200yrs*)
2. I get to choose my race
3. More story-oriented
4. Choices that actually matter
5. Consequences of said choices
6. Stick to RPG with just enough FPS (not COD-style or heavy FPS)
7. NO AUTO-DIALOGUE
8. Doesn't need to be a "save the galaxy" type of game
9. Combat style like Mass Effect 3
10. Inventory Management like Mass Effect 2
11. Have romance (Love Interests) that covers different genders (such like a Female Turian, Male Quarian, ect) and give each the same amount of effort 
12. More exploration whether in hub worlds, new worlds or "known" worlds (like visiting Palaven, Rannoch, ect)
13. Vehicles 
14. New Species (like the Raloi, ect)

As long as these are in Mass Effect 4, I can stomach whatever canon ending they choose. 

Modifié par Stella-Arc, 21 novembre 2012 - 02:27 .


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double post :(

Modifié par Stella-Arc, 21 novembre 2012 - 02:06 .


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I thought about where Bioware should go next with the ME franchise for some time and i came up with a couple of idea.

- First contact war era would be awesome.

- Playing a closer roll in the quarian and geth story would be too.

- Playing in the protheans era would be nice but we all know how it ends.

- Something else then army related stuff would be interesting, smuggling could lead to an extraordinary tale.

- I really loved the story of ME1 and it's global plot, so many plot twists, but the climax of the second one was nearly perfect.

Modifié par Akumal, 21 novembre 2012 - 02:58 .


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I'd like another trilogy happening at the same time as the first one but with different characters, or a sequel.  What happens after the reapers have been defeated?  Surely that isn't the only threat to the galaxy!

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Are we to actually believe Casey is going to listen to what the fan base wants in a new Mass Effect game? After they flat out lied to us about ME3's content and embarrassed the entire series with that lazy, half-assed, ****** poor, excuse of an ending and basically giving their entire fan base the middle finger with an extend cut that just polished the turd it already was? I say screw Casey and the lot. They won't even fix what they broke, and called us out saying it's our fault we didn't like their "artistic vision", and now they want our thoughts!!! I'm sorry, but it's so laughably pathetic and frankly I don't give a damn about what they do with this next game because I'm not buying a single BioEAware product ever again. You gave me the middle finger with ME3, I return the favor.

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ugurbu wrote...

ImperatorMortis wrote...

BombThatDeadGuy wrote...

In all seriousness we have 75 pages worth of ideas and not a whole lot of people really going "Yes we definitely need this." By this point there should be some common ground everyone can get behind. I'm not trying to anger anyone but let's not get out of hand or we could have this terrible situation nobody wants

"Alright so what exactly do the fans want for Mass Effect 4"
"Sir, there all over the place we got one asking for an MMO, another asking for a RTS, some want a prequel, some want a sequel, some want space combat, others want to play as other races, some want canonized endings others want it to be told alongside the main trilogy, there's SO many options sir."
"Crap...alright gather ALL the ideas up we're gonna put them on this wheel and spin it, I'm going to throw this knife at it and whatever it lands on THAT'S the next game...and Mass Effect 4 will be a Dance Dance Revolution game starring Tiny The Volus Stripper...welp let's make it HAPPEN."

I'm joking of course but you get my point


Well most people seem to want a Sequel at least.


Most people want a sequel, most people want different species to choose from, most people don't want Shepard to have any big presence in the next game (aside from maybe some small reference like a statue in his/her honor), most people want the next game to have ME1's feel and ME3's combat system, most people want less autodialogue, most people want to keep the dialogue-wheel,....did I forget something?


No that's pretty much the majority of what most people want to see even off the bioware forums. Thanks for this I appreciate it. Even I support these ideas.

it's just a matter of when are we going to hear back from Bioware on what exactly are they going to choose to do. If anything I expect them to reveal what ideas are chosen in like an interview with Game Informer or something several months possibly years from now. It's unlikely that someone from Bioware is going to comment on this thread they seem to rather speak through action rather than speak to the fans "Hey man we like this idea it's going to be in the next game don't you worry."

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IsaacShep wrote...

No prequels, no MMO, no pure FPS/action/action-adventure game.

I really want another ME RPG trilogy, set AFTER ME3 and with a new hero we can customize like Shep and transfer throughout 3 games.

Plz Bioware!


^THIS!

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I would say a sequel from the trilogy and the start of a new adventure from the choices that you(the fans) made and it should drive it. Bring more customizations and new characters with the same voice actors. Also more execution and content to add more gameplay as well as incentives. Just a thought.

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BombThatDeadGuy wrote...

ugurbu wrote...

ImperatorMortis wrote...

BombThatDeadGuy wrote...

In all seriousness we have 75 pages worth of ideas and not a whole lot of people really going "Yes we definitely need this." By this point there should be some common ground everyone can get behind. I'm not trying to anger anyone but let's not get out of hand or we could have this terrible situation nobody wants

"Alright so what exactly do the fans want for Mass Effect 4"
"Sir, there all over the place we got one asking for an MMO, another asking for a RTS, some want a prequel, some want a sequel, some want space combat, others want to play as other races, some want canonized endings others want it to be told alongside the main trilogy, there's SO many options sir."
"Crap...alright gather ALL the ideas up we're gonna put them on this wheel and spin it, I'm going to throw this knife at it and whatever it lands on THAT'S the next game...and Mass Effect 4 will be a Dance Dance Revolution game starring Tiny The Volus Stripper...welp let's make it HAPPEN."

I'm joking of course but you get my point


Well most people seem to want a Sequel at least.


Most people want a sequel, most people want different species to choose from, most people don't want Shepard to have any big presence in the next game (aside from maybe some small reference like a statue in his/her honor), most people want the next game to have ME1's feel and ME3's combat system, most people want less autodialogue, most people want to keep the dialogue-wheel,....did I forget something?


No that's pretty much the majority of what most people want to see even off the bioware forums. Thanks for this I appreciate it. Even I support these ideas.

it's just a matter of when are we going to hear back from Bioware on what exactly are they going to choose to do. If anything I expect them to reveal what ideas are chosen in like an interview with Game Informer or something several months possibly years from now. It's unlikely that someone from Bioware is going to comment on this thread they seem to rather speak through action rather than speak to the fans "Hey man we like this idea it's going to be in the next game don't you worry."


The game is still in such an early state of development, I don't really expect any kind of comment anytime soon about what ideas they like and/or don't like. Casey Hudson at least says on Twitter things like "Parsing through your ideas, would you like the next game to take place before or after the trilogy?". That gives me at least the feeling that they actually DO read this thread, since this is one of the major issues here: sequel or prequel? And he also did comment on how most people like the idea of playing a different race then human in the next game. So, aside from comments like that on Twitter or other social networks, we can't expect any specific comments on our ideas and wishes anytime soon. 
Yet.
A few months from now I'd like to hear which timeline they will choose though. It is important for me if it'll be a prequel or sequel.

Oh, and what most people- me included- don't want to see is a MMO, or at least a MMO that influences the single player in any kind of way. Because that would SUCK. A game that started as single player has to stay single player. Some form of multiplayer- a coop campaign on one console with a friend or the multiplayer from ME3- is ok, as long as it does NOT interfere with the single player campaign, which has to stay the center of the ME series.

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Hard to say. I would be fine if they canonise Destroy or Control endings, because then there is still that whole evolution thing that Synthesis kind of throws out the window. I suppose it would be best to set the game so far into the future that you don't have to choose between the two as it would be such old history that nobody gives a damn what actually happened.

I suggest the game start off with a relatively clean slate, canonise some decisions, vague up others, rebuild the universe and separate this game from the original trilogy. I say this because I think it would be wise that the players not be reminded too much of Shepard and whatever decisions s/he made, especially ending related, so as not to reopen old wounds for those who didn't enjoy.

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- more story than shooting, or if you really want that make it optional/ i would want more rpg elements in me3 and ofc me2
- be talky and techy!
- big emphasis on companions and LI, complexity of characters rather than intensivity of explosions
- mechanics of ME3 like inventory, weapon weight vs power were nice
- ah.... repair ME3 story - betraying the past wasn't good, and won't work in further games;
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BombThatDeadGuy wrote...

ugurbu wrote...

BombThatDeadGuy wrote...

In all seriousness we have 75 pages worth of ideas and not a whole lot of people really going "Yes we definitely need this." By this point there should be some common ground everyone can get behind.



Most people want a sequel, most people want different species to choose from, most people don't want Shepard to have any big presence in the next game (aside from maybe some small reference like a statue in his/her honor), most people want the next game to have ME1's feel and ME3's combat system, most people want less autodialogue, most people want to keep the dialogue-wheel,....did I forget something?


No that's pretty much the majority of what most people want to see even off the bioware forums. Thanks for this I appreciate it. Even I support these ideas.


:)

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One other thing I thought I might suggest, an enemy that is nothing like what the Reapers were. One problem I saw with the main Reaper conflict was that it was on an unimaginable scale. A single Reaper was nearly unstoppable and then there was a fleet of them larger than any the galaxy had to offer. This lead to the Crucible and Catalyst, the two elements that are still at the core of most of the ending hate.

Without going into that very tired subject any more than I absolutely have to, we need a different kind of enemy. I don't know what kind it should be but I'd be happy if the larger conflict didn't lead me to ancient doomsday devices and the ghosts of children that haunt my dreams.

Modifié par WazzuMan, 21 novembre 2012 - 02:21 .


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Going after ME3 would be very hard and would without fail ****** off part of the fan base no matter how hard Bioware tried to keep them happy.

A prequel of humanity discovering the Prothean database on Mars to around the time of the first contact war would be awesome. Perhaps the player character could be part of the first ship to madly dash around the relay network looking for a solution to the Turian conflict - ie. finding the council and discovering the other races.

Or perhaps I could get my wish and be able to fly a Trident as a fighter pilot during the events of the ME Trilogy. :) Space fighter sim crossed with RPG elements. I can dream. :)

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Here is how I would do it, in my own personal opinion.


ME4 Story Idea

I'd set the game after the reaper invasion, with Shepard having made the decision to destroy the reapers.
If I had to write the story,  you would take control of the son/daughter of Shepard, a young cadet who just graduated the military academy (with Shepards statue in the yard of course). He struggles because he lives in the shadow of his father and many jealous tongues say he only graduated with flying colors because of being the son of a hero.

Then, on his first assignment - a mission to ensure the safety of important diplomats - he gets set up by a splinter group of radical, anti-human Turians who make the actions of his father responsible for the Turians losing their seat of power in the council to the young race of humans. The important diplomats get killed and the player is accused of assassination, while it also sparks accusations between Salarians, Turians, Humans and other races creating a tension that leads to mistrust and violent conflicts across the universe.

Put into prison for his crimes the player will get busted out by a Turian (Garrus?) who believes in his innocence and has a personal beef to pick with the leader of the radical splinter group. From that point onward the player travels the universe with his crew, branded as an outlaw and eager to uncover the true intentions of the radical group while the universe is at the brink of a civil war.


Other ideas

Maybe the story idea above could even lead to another "Contact War" with a new race,
as its basically about disrupting peace and unity between the council races and setting everything up
to a point where a new threat could cause a serious problem.

But a new race emerging from black space ?
Considering how the reapers annihilate all life, this species would have needed to...

A ) Have managed to have hid itself very well (=> similar to the archives of the Protheans)
B ) Have managed to hold the line until the reapers got destroyed by Shepard.
C ) Been living at the edge of black space, so the reapers didn't reach them during the invasion.

ME4 can really go a lot of ways and in the end it's up to Bioware to decide where to take it.

There are some other great posts in this forum though, I feel that if Bioware reads them and considers a few things from each of the comments, we don't have to worry about ME4.

Modifié par EmperorZorn, 21 novembre 2012 - 03:16 .


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Number of people suggesting that next game follows Shepards offspring - while I'm in favour off a sequal rather than a prequel. The children idea would need to be very well written otherwise it'll come off as a Disney-esque quich cashin(Little Mermain 2, Lion King 2, Cinderella 2 etc)

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I say go back and fix the me3 ending first. then make a sequel with new protagonist that shepard is the mentor too.

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Hard to say what we would want about ME4 if a lot of people don't know where we stand with ME3...
My sugestion is:
1. Add some replayability to ME3 that would give you a great starting point for ME4
2. Link ME3 with ME4. It can be even books, some dialoque...but make it so, that the games are not 100% separate from each other.
3. Vechicles and Exploration. ME is a game in vast universe, so let us explore it. Planet scanning is worse than a simple, bare planet that gives us the possibility to move around.
4. Characters - Try to keep it equal for all of them. We all get that some are more popular and some are less popular...but all of them have their loyal fans, so don't don't forget about those people.
5. If there are choices...don't forget them. Do a chart of every single choice in game, to remember them (maybe not the smallest ones but those more important).
6. Boss fights... it's a video game, and we need a boss fight since the greatest reward comes from beating him and the game.
7. Hub worlds - We do need more clubs and shops :)
8. Our ship/fortress/home/whatever - I love how I could always customize my very own private place! The d'arnise keep from BG2, the castle in NWN2, the Normandy in ME. Give us some great place with customization options :) We players love to collect stuff...even if it is random husk head xD

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-- Preferably a sequel, maybe a few decades into the future, separated from Shepard and current ME characters except perhaps in general tangential mentions so as to not step on relationships (for example no Tali showing up in a fashion that would run counter to Tali LI in the previous trilogy). Unless these things could somehow be referenced from the earlier game saves.

-- Enhanced exploration, return to a more refined Mako variant. Mako (or equivalent) should never have been dropped.

-- Return to varied hub worlds, boss fights, neutral responses perhaps.

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An exploration-based game covering new parts of the galaxy would be interesting (maybe explore more of the Omega-4 territory beyond the relay, finding other relays while exploring, and hitting new areas). Also, salvage some elements of the original leaked Dark Energy plot by having the player to stop some cataclysmic natural event rather than yet another Epic Big Bad enemy.

Or if the team REALLY wanted a curve-ball, work on something immediately after ME3 with more real-time-strategy elements where the player is trying to reunite the galaxy post-Reaper War (in the vein of a Masters of Orion). An experimental ship with sooper-secret prototype FTL+ drives running around trying to find things to repair the Mass Relays would have been cool, but some EC endings addressed the relays being online, to some extent.

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Man I highly doubt he, or anyone else is gonna read all of this.

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ImperatorMortis wrote...

Man I highly doubt he, or anyone else is gonna read all of this.


What will probably happen is that they'll do an export of the forum's database for responses to this thread and run some automated reporting looking for frequency of keywords or phrases, then see if any overwhelmingly predominate comes up, then take the top 10/20/x hits from the reporting and see if any of those are potentially inspiring and workable.