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[RedJohn]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

People who think the Piranha is the best shotgun in the game obviously have no clue how to use the GPS.

Not only GPS, also another weapons that I don't want to mention.

Also, guys, you are not alone, http://social.biowar.../index/14165770 I am with all of you in this fight.

I'm not a fan of pirahna, for me there is not any other shotgun than claymore, but I think this is not justice.

[muy_thaiguy]

So the only good light shotgun is going to get nerfed, again? That sucks. Wraith is a legit medium range shotgun, but slow rate of fire. The claymore is basically a hand cannon, but incredibly heavy, slow reload, and one shot per clip. The eviscerator is a lighter version of the Wraith, and decent at medium range, but once again, rate of fire becomes an issue. Please don't nerf the few remaining good guns, makes the game less fun.

[RGFrog]

Lol. Perhaps someday someone at BW will realize what the constant changes are actually achieving.

At which point I expect them to retire... oh wait.

Modifié par RGFrog, 19 septembre 2012 - 05:27 .

[JaimasOfRaxis]

If we do not draw the line at something, they will nerf other weapons we care about next.

Save the Carnifex!

[thegamefreek78648]

Here's a question... Who is the OP quoting? It doesn't say and given the tone.....

Troll is trolling

[Rifneno]

thegamefreek78648 wrote...

Here's a question... Who is the OP quoting? It doesn't say and given the tone.....

Troll is trolling

Yes, you're trolling.  What's your point?

[DoubleHell]

If they nerf the damage, they need to improve the accuracy / reduce pellet spread.

If they nerf the ROF, they need to increase the capacity of each clip.

I can't really see them nerfing the accuracy...it's about as accurate as a leaky balloon.

[Mullpat]

Eric Fagnan wrote...

We will be making changes to the Eagle next week.

Love it, got mine on VII, hope I can finally use it one day.

[ZeevaQ]

well wasn't my fav but was fun to use - would be a shame to see it degrade though.

[GordianKnot42]

Aedolon wrote...

This is why we have four distinct levels of difficulty. If you feel you're not very good with weapon-based classes - even if they're generally well balanced with other classes - play on a lower difficulty when using those classes. Or are you saying that weapons feel inadequate even on Bronze?

Nah, I do Silver pretty much exclusively unless I'm playing with folks I know.  Even for me Bronze is too easy for it to be very much fun.  I feel like I've found a gameplay that suits me for ALMOST every class (the Vorcha still elude me) so that I can do reasonably well in Silver.  But I never did well with a shotty Infiltrator until the Piranha came out.  My aim with shotguns is notoriously bad, but the Piranha's rapid-fire is more forgiving, and plus you have to be right on top of them to do max damage anyway (great to do when cloaked).  What a great in-your-face weapon that is.  I really hope they don't nerf it too badly.  Even at point-blank range it still takes 3-4 hits on a Cannibal to take it down.  Maybe they'll just disallow a choke on it or something.

[Rokayt]

Well.... The thing is... The weight gimmick just kinda is the biggest flaw of the game balance.

If we were going for a balanced game here: If a caster weapon is good on weapon classes, Expect nerfs.

Caster weapons being bad is a game design choice, because lightness implies weakness.
(As opposed to rarity, which just implies that if it is light, it wont be weak because of this. Judging by the current numbers.)

[jordie3000]

The Piranha's what got me to use shotguns again. I'd been spoiled on them in other games, but the ones here for whatever reason gave me trouble. I like that it's got a bit of weight to it but doesn't kill cooldowns, and I can deal with the fact that it's terrible at range because I'm not using it for that. Just because two classes can apparently use it at range doesn't mean that everyone's party gets rained on. I mean, heck, if we're going to start nerfing shotguns that are boss at range, then I fail to see why we should stop at the Piranha. As for the Carnifex, just buff the Eagle, "problem" solved.

Seriously, if we could stop the nerf train that would be awesome. The graveyard started running out of room around when the Typhoon bit it, let's not make things worse by adding two perfectly fine guns to the charnel house.

[TheLukerez]

Ermahgerrrd durn nerf muh gurrrrnnnzzz.

[Eckswhyzed]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

People who think the Piranha is the best shotgun in the game obviously have no clue how to use the GPS.

Best in terms of theoretical DPS, which it can easily achieve against Atlases, Brutes and clustered spawns.

If that's not important to you (or is balanced out by other factors), that's your prerogative.

Personally I don't really care about the Piranha one way or the other, I find it terribly boring to use.

[darkpassenger2342]

the reason i dont use the pirahna is id be the 4th person on my team to equip it.
whats the fun in that?

[LordDeathkeeper]

 At this rate within two months they'll have the Claymore shooting potatoes and make the Reegar a super-soaker (in space).But yeah, please don't nerf the Carnifex, Bioware. He has a wife and family, you know. What will his son Paladin do if he sees his father reduced to a non-Platinum-viable mass of space-steel? 

[Rifneno]

Rokayt wrote...

Well.... The thing is... The weight gimmick just kinda is the biggest flaw of the game balance.

If we were going for a balanced game here: If a caster weapon is good on weapon classes, Expect nerfs.

Caster weapons being bad is a game design choice, because lightness implies weakness.
(As opposed to rarity, which just implies that if it is light, it wont be weak because of this. Judging by the current numbers.)

Except that being heavy doesn't mean being awesome.  The javelin has about the same sustained dps as a phaeston.

[Daynan]

I'm supporting whatever changes they'll make.
The Carnifex was always my go to pistol, far lighter than I admit it should be, I find it preferable to the heavy Paladin VI I've got which only does slightly more damage than the Carnifex for half the clip.

You don't even need to put ULM on it on many builds to get 200% with a ULMed SMG. Balancing has never been too hard to stomach. They'll do what's right with the Carnifex.

The party (may) be over, but I might still use it despite what happens. Still, on the bright side, if it is a significant nerf, it'll encourage us to use other pistols.

Same goes for the Piranha. Challenge and variety over ease!

I'm looking forward to seeing the N7 Eagle changes too. =) I'm a Rank III member of the misery loves company club!

[Boog_89]

Pirahna is kinda OP as it is now, I still think it should have kept its original stats and been an ultra rare. The carnifex nerf is very unnecessary though. Hopefully they keep the tradition going and buff several things too next week. I like to see underused guns get a second wind.

[neverhadspam]

Buff the **** weapons! There's too many!

[St3v3H]

That just BS. The Piranha is only OP when using it with the GI and maybe the Destroyer. Its totally fine on the other classes. Its not the problem of the gun its the problem of the classes. The Carnifex is perfectly fine too and it makes no sense to nerf this gun.

[Rifneno]

Daynan wrote...

I'm supporting whatever changes they'll make.

Blind endorsement.  That's always a good sign.