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[Rudest]

The Carnifex's weight/damage not only outclasses several pistols to the point of making us overlook them all together---it does the same to several sniper rifles and assault rifles making them redundant at best.

Example: Why carry a Vindicator when you can carry a Carnifex? ect. I love the weapon. Definitely one of my go-to-guns since ME2---I do think it needs a -slight- nerf. It certainly doesn't need to be nerfed into the ground however. This is also how I feel about the Piranah.

This is just part of the problem though. The power of our more prolific weapons isn't all to blame for the lack of variety. Some weapons simply don't measure up at all. They are just taking up space. I understand something I get in a recruit pack isn't supposed to hold up to a typical ultra rare (in most cases) ..But weapons like the Scimitar, Locust, Raptor, and Vindicator? ---countless others need to be at least semi-competitive. Ideally, every weapon should have a nice niche. (barring a few basic starter weapons)

Look at the Mattock; For it's tier I feel that it is exactly where it needs to be. But the Vindicator? God I love the burst fire style of the gun. But the damage output is not rewarding enough to warrant using it.

I am more of the mind that several weapons need to be looked at and buffed. The only thing getting any focus or attention is our definitive meta-game weapons. I'm not a balance or numbers kind of guy but the tiny tweaks and adjustments I've seen for other weapons (like the slight raptor's buff today) look tiny and miniscule--hardly game changing.

Modifié par Rudest, 18 septembre 2012 - 11:57 .

[Rafficus III]

Well this is no bueno. Carnifex is the only pistol I use on my Adepts and the Piranha is my new favorite weapon. Ugghhh. Okay, Bioware..... I still have my Wraith and Paladin. I think I'll survive.

[Invader Nemesis]

GlassElephant wrote...

My Fury will cry many tears over her beloved Carnifex with extended barrel and ULM. No way am I switching to the "caster sidearm" Eagle. I'd rather wack enemies with a sea bass >.>

Try Talon or Paladin if you have them. Use the Talon on my Fury and Shadow, very effective

[LadyAlekto]

piranha i find is quite okay, wraith and talon do better under most circumstances and it requires a gun master class, tho it could do with some weight

The carnifex, i dont get the fuss about the gun and i love my magnum in battlefield

[ZiRK]

Nerf the guns all you like - aslong as theres Krogaurds you'll be almost invincible and able to kill anything with anything on any difficulty.

Get it together.

Modifié par Mr SeVerS, 18 septembre 2012 - 11:53 .

[Aetika]

Rarely happens, but this time, I am actually annoyed. Why not just make other guns better instead of nerfing those that are just fine.

[Doommarine23]

Aetika wrote...

Rarely happens, but this time, I am actually annoyed. Why not just make other guns better instead of nerfing those that are just fine.

Obviously they do this, considering there has been buffs already and the past 3 weeks have been only buffs.

I don't know why you guys care so much, its balancing of the game. Nothing more, nothing less.

[smyss]

new weapon (argus) and old DLC weapon (piranha) nerf inbound ONLY means one thing. make way for the new OP DLC weapons.

Modifié par smyss, 18 septembre 2012 - 11:54 .

[Swarlos1713]

Of all the weapons to change, the Carnifex would be dead last on my list. I would go as far as to say that weapon is perfectly balanced and all other pistols (maybe even weapons) should be balanced around it. I don't use it that often anymore as I like to experiment with different options (like the Talon most recently), but when I do I'm reminded of how capable a sidearm it is and how perfect it is for casters.

Do not nerf or buff this weapon. It is absolutely perfect for its role.

[Rifneno]

Doommarine23 wrote...

Aetika wrote...

Rarely happens, but this time, I am actually annoyed. Why not just make other guns better instead of nerfing those that are just fine.

Obviously they do this, considering there has been buffs already and the past 3 weeks have been only buffs.

I don't know why you guys care so much, its balancing of the game. Nothing more, nothing less.

Yeah, why do people care when their characters become weaker as nothing is ever done about enemies like geth?  It's a real headscratcher.

[Rebel_Raven]

I dunno, if Bioware wants to promote diversity in loadouts, then maybe give casters more weapons to use that don't absolutely SUCK vs things taller than a human without adding consumeables? Instead of taking away decent caster weapons?

But who the hell am I kidding? Any decent weapon can become a powerhouse in the hands of a weapons platform class. This is indicative of the widening gap between the standalone abilities of casters, and weapons classes.

That eagle polishing had better be substantial... but then again if it is, the weapons platform classes will snatch it up, and it'll get nerfed again.

[Cohen le Barbare]

Man, that's brutal. Some needed buffs on sniper rifles and the locust outbalanced by nerfs to (very) popular guns... I wonder how many teeth the piranha will lose.

I'm kind of glad I have an eagle VI though, and if they buff it properly (increase damage and lower recoil) it can become a very good weapon worthy of its promotional status.

[Xaijin]

Sigh.

[Xaijin]

Rudest wrote...

The Carnifex's weight/damage not only outclasses several pistols to the point of making us overlook them all together---it does the same to several sniper rifles and assault rifles making them redundant at best.

Example: Why carry a Vindicator when you can carry a Carnifex? ect. I love the weapon. Definitely one of my go-to-guns since ME2---I do think it needs a -slight- nerf. It certainly doesn't need to be nerfed into the ground however. This is also how I feel about the Piranah.

This is just part of the problem though. The power of our more prolific weapons isn't all to blame for the lack of variety. Some weapons simply don't measure up at all. They are just taking up space. I understand something I get in a recruit pack isn't supposed to hold up to a typical ultra rare (in most cases) ..But weapons like the Scimitar, Locust, Raptor, and Vindicator? ---countless others need to be at least semi-competitive. Ideally, every weapon should have a nice niche. (barring a few basic starter weapons)

Look at the Mattock; For it's tier I feel that it is exactly where it needs to be. But the Vindicator? God I love the burst fire style of the gun. But the damage output is not rewarding enough to warrant using it.

I am more of the mind that several weapons need to be looked at and buffed. The only thing getting any focus or attention is our definitive meta-game weapons. I'm not a balance or numbers kind of guy but the tiny tweaks and adjustments I've seen for other weapons (like the slight raptor's buff today) look tiny and miniscule--hardly game changing.

Your logic is ridiculous. The AR and Snipes sucking has everything to do with them sucking and not much at all to do with the Carnifex.

[Aetika]

Doommarine23 wrote...

Aetika wrote...

Rarely happens, but this time, I am actually annoyed. Why not just make other guns better instead of nerfing those that are just fine.

Obviously they do this, considering there has been buffs already and the past 3 weeks have been only buffs.

I don't know why you guys care so much, its balancing of the game. Nothing more, nothing less.

I don´t know...maybe because it´s sucking the fun out of game.

[Geek]

I can't remember the last time I saw someone using the carnifex. I understand the piranha but would prefer they would leave it alone now.

Modifié par rymoulton, 19 septembre 2012 - 12:03 .

[Doommarine23]

Aetika wrote...

Doommarine23 wrote...

Aetika wrote...

Rarely happens, but this time, I am actually annoyed. Why not just make other guns better instead of nerfing those that are just fine.

Obviously they do this, considering there has been buffs already and the past 3 weeks have been only buffs.

I don't know why you guys care so much, its balancing of the game. Nothing more, nothing less.

I don´t know...maybe because it´s sucking the fun out of game.

The game has still been fun for me since launch, if not more fun. I don't get the problem, because guns are being balanced to fit into their intended roles and not completely dominate?

Why not try other classes or weapons than. I use stuff like the Hurricane on my Fury, I don't need to just lean on the Carnifex. I'm not saying Nerfs are the most fun thing, but they're professional developers, they obviously know why they're doing this. Its for balance.

[Rudest]

@Xaijin--

Because they need buffs. There needs to be incentive to use them, and incentive to choose a sniper rifle or the Carni. Do you ever get tired of looking at your weapons selection, and dismissing more than half of the weapons? I'm not saying nerf the Carnifex into a oblivion. Far from that. It might need a slight weight increase or some such. -slight-

When I choose a sniper rifle Is shouldn't think "Why am I using this? It's like a gimp Carnifex" I should be going picking up both, and asking myself rather I like the feel of this, or the feel of that. Beyond that, there should be no correlation.

Modifié par Rudest, 19 septembre 2012 - 12:07 .

[Dorje Sylas]

For this reason, I'm torn. On one hand, I love it, but on the other, I'm probably over-reliant on it. I do like the idea of choosing which pistol to use, again.

Don't be torn. Just know that BioWare could fix that for you right away by actually Buffing the other guns to you know, actually be good. Instead they're going to "fix" your problem by making it suck.

it's bascially the one gun they haven't touched yet and actually managed to get right from the start. It's held its own across all the enemy buffs, and should really be used as the baseline at this point.

[McAllyster]

I use Carnifex on Bronze only and if my adept or shadow is low level. On Silver or especially Gold the Carnifex is pretty much useless because the low DPS.

The asari adept + Carnifex combo was the queen of the multiplayer... at the demo days. So if you nerf Carnifex... then I have to say goodbye to this weapon.

[mpompeo27]

Instead of nerfing the Carnifex they should buff the Phalanx and just make the Carnifex a little heavier.

[Aetika]

Doommarine23 wrote...

Aetika wrote...

Doommarine23 wrote...

Aetika wrote...

Rarely happens, but this time, I am actually annoyed. Why not just make other guns better instead of nerfing those that are just fine.

Obviously they do this, considering there has been buffs already and the past 3 weeks have been only buffs.

I don't know why you guys care so much, its balancing of the game. Nothing more, nothing less.

I don´t know...maybe because it´s sucking the fun out of game.

The game has still been fun for me since launch, if not more fun. I don't get the problem, because guns are being balanced to fit into their intended roles and not completely dominate?

Why not try other classes or weapons than. I use stuff like the Hurricane on my Fury, I don't need to just lean on the Carnifex. I'm not saying Nerfs are the most fun thing, but they're professional developers, they obviously know why they're doing this. Its for balance.

Well, good for you.

Modifié par Aetika, 19 septembre 2012 - 12:08 .

[Rebel_Raven]

Rudest wrote...

@Xaijin--

Because they need buffs. There needs to be incentive to use them, and incentive to choose a sniper rifle or the Carni. Do you ever get tired of looking at your weapons election, and dismissing more than half of the weapons? I'm not saying nerf the Carnifex into a oblivion. Far from that. It might need a slight weight increase or some such. -slight-

I know you're talking to someone else, but I gotta chip in.

Yes, yes I do get tired of dismissing most of my arsenal. Problem is it's coz the weapons are too weak to hurt something larger than a human, not because there's something better.

If you can't take down a brute with it on atleast silver without stacking consumeables, and using a caster class, it'd better be -really- useful elsewhere.

[Rudest]

mpompeo27 wrote...

Instead of nerfing the Carnifex they should buff the Phalanx and just make the Carnifex a little heavier.

I concur! .

[Rifneno]

mpompeo27 wrote...

Instead of nerfing the Carnifex they should buff the Phalanx and just make the Carnifex a little heavier.

Instead of nerfing the carnifex they should buff the phalanx and nerf the carnifex?