brushyourteeth wrote...
aetherwyn wrote...
brushyourteeth wrote...
aetherwyn wrote...
Nope. I prefer being able to play as a female and still romance whoever the hell I want. In DA2, for instance, when Anders and Fenris were busy with their brooding and angst, Isabela and my Lady Hawkes were getting it on. Sure, I'm a straight girl IRL, but that doesn't matter. Gender does not matter. It shouldn't. End of story. You should be able to romance whoever you want in-game. Inclusivity over exclusivity.
Luckily, the Dragon Age team is filled with perfect snowflakes who are too cool to listen to gender and sexuality limitations, and who have the ability to make interesting characters who are not defined by which of the genders they want to bang. Imagine that.
I totally get where you're coming from, and believe me when I say that I'm not trying to invalidate your point here. But if gender didn't matter, players who want the chance to romance everyone would understand that nothing's stopping them from doing that -- they can just play as the opposite gender next time. If gender doesn't matter, end of story, then stepping into that gender's shoes shouldn't be too much to ask. But it does, and apparently it is.
So while I respect that you want to be able to romance whoever you want whenever you want (and your opinion is completely valid), "gender does not matter" is an argument that won't take you very far. Because gender IS the issue. If it weren't, players would have said "no problem - I'll just play as a girl and romance Alistair!" or "Aw nuts, no lesbian love with Morrigan? Ah well, I'll roll a dude." - but that's not how the debate went down in real life.
I get where you'e coming from, too, and I admit that is a bit of a flaw in my statement -- It would have been best to say gender shouldn't matter in in-game relationships, not that gender in and of itself is something that should be ignored. I like playing girl characters because I am a girl, and because it's easier for me to develop them, easier for me to get inside their heads.
On that note, I do play games as the opposite gender if I have to. I do that for most other RPGs, I did that in DAO before I modded the game, and I did that for a time so I could get used to m!Hawke's voice. You know, I did say, "Let's go, male blood mage, you romance the hell out of Morrigan." It's not that it's something I'm entirely averse to doing -- I just prefer to be a girl.
And I prefer to have all romance options available to either gender. So, I don't think gender matters in terms of romances or sexuality or what-have-you, I suppose. But, of course, your opinion is just as valid, too.
Ha! Your gaming experience is ridiculously similar to mine in that regard. I will rarely play as a guy when I don't have to, and of course if one of the male LI's were gay, I'd be the first to grump a little that I couldn't romance him as a girl. But then, if it mattered enough to me, I'd step in those gay-guy shoes and experience that relationship outside of my comfort zone (which would actually do alot more in terms of inclusivity than being able to *make* him be straight, though it's not the DA team's goal to convince us to be ok with homosexuality, just to provide us with options that make gameplay fun).
In real life, I'm 100% straight, so if a girl approached me and said "Why can't we be together? Gender doesn't matter!" I'd sadly have to tell her that yeah, it does. I'm not into girls. And it matters to her too, if she's a lesbian. Sometimes romantic love does actually have limitations. I think what a lot of people are asking for (and excited about) is that in Thedas, maybe there aren't any. Which is totally fair. I'd love instead to see our real-life sexualities represented equally, because I feel like that does much more for equality than a subjective sexuality does. But less options for the protagonist, so there are pros and cons on both sides. In the end, the DA team will keep the subjective sexuality and I'll learn to like it. 
And it was a pleasure to talk to you about that! Thanks for not being defensive! It's super refreshing. 
Hmm.. for me, I think it's more like... as this is a game, sexuality should be relative (or, in your words, subjective). Does that mean
all characters are interested in you? Varric and Aveline say no. It just means that, for the available LIs, they can be interested in either gender because gender doesn't play a huge role in those relationships; it's more about people being with people than males with males or females with females, you know?
Oh, I don't know if I'm explaining myself well. I'm a straight female, too, so I definitely understand what you're saying, but the appropriate words to clarify what I'm trying to say aren't coming out. Blah.
Basically, I think that for these charcters, they are what you want them to be, in a way. Which some people clearly see as a negative, but I don't. I think it's a positive, inclusivity and all that jazz. And here I give up. XD
Anyway, it was a pleasure talking to you, too! I think you articulated what others have been trying to say quite nicely, and you definitely made me understand the opposing side far better than I originally had. Thanks very much!
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Personally, I'm not comfortable lobbying my favorite author or game designer with my own views. I may have been at one poiont, but no longer. This is their game; if they want to pander then fine. If they aren't inclusive enough, I'm not about to throw a fit.
