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[Xeyska]

If it fails, then it fails. Meanwhile I'll be playing my previous games, while waiting for Wasteland 2 and Project Eternity to come out.

[lv12medic]

Silly Herp Derp the DA2 Wannabe Blood Dragon says to the first question if DA3:I bombs then it will become a cult classic and outsell most decent games.

To the second question the world will keep spinning and Silly Herp Derp the DA2 Wannabe Blood Dragon will survive another day by probably playing DA3:I anyways because how good or bad something is too subjective to measure accurately.

To the third question Silly Herp Derp the DA2 Wannabe Blood Dragon has to trust Bioware otherwise it may get slapped with a copyright infringement lawsuit and result in an immediate cease of use order.

[Androme]

If DA3 is as bad or worse than DA2 then EA will have succeeded in their ''divide and conquer'' tactic of BioWare.

[PhillyB]

"What if this game bombs?" More like, "When this game bombs..."

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

voice_of_darkness wrote...

 I'm just wondering, what will you fans do if DA3 turns out to be as bad as ME3 original ending or DA2?

Kickstarter.

Will you still trust Bioware?

Eh. Insofar as Dragon Age is concerned, I'll continue to play them so long as they look like fun and the game works as advertised, though I will definitely wait until they hit the bargain bin before buying after the issues I had with my DA2 preorder (DRM refused to recognise me as the owner. For over a month. Until a patch was released.).

Since I haven't fanatically bought and played every single Bioware game (I still haven't played ME or ME2 despite owning them) just because they're Bioware games I don't see DA3's ending impacting me that greatly. If it sucks, I'm sure I'll complain about it on the forum for a while before getting bored and finding something else to do.

[upsettingshorts]

If it bombs we won't get an expansion and the forums will complain.

If it doesn't bomb the forums will move the goalposts, and then complain.

[CronoDragoon]

What if this game rules? Will all the Chicken Littles come back to the board and admit how wrong they were?

Doubt it.

[markeffect13]

Depends what you mean by "bomb". Bioware has lost a lot of the goodwill of many of their longtime fans with DA2 and ME3; it's unlikely that many of these lost fans will be excited to play DA3. In terms of critical reception, surely it will not bomb as even DA2 got solid reviews and game journalism in general is a complete joke. Sales also looks somewhat bleak, as DA2 sold dramatically less than Origins, at least going by what data is available.

[Dragoncloud]

Lets be honest here, we're like puppies, you can smack us arround as much as you like we'll still keep buying your stuff, it'll take quite a few failures to completely stop people from buying your games.
Considering bioware is still the better rpg company out there when it comes to story telling, they have quite a bit of rep to burn through before they release games that won't sell. (I never quite got into the elder scroll games as the 'story' bit was just plain crap. Sure open world is fun for the first 10 hours but then it just gets repetitive. Witcher i'd much rather read the books then play the game as theres too much fighting inbetween the sex.)



Thing is, the 'bombing'/'failing' usually happens after all the preorders and purchases have been done, so the initial money is there already.

DA2 was enjoyable, maybe not as 'rich' as da:o was, but still i liked it. (then again whats not to like that when you fight mages as a templar/reaver you can just imagine the blood mages soiling their robes when you eat one of their faces and shrug off their feeble magics)
ME3 i enjoyed all the way till right before the end, it was an awesome game for 99% of the time, could the ending have been better? yes. Did i look at the new endings? No, as its not really new content and i don't feel like grinding up the readiness again i just went to youtube.

Even if you present people the purest diamond they'll still complain about its weight or how it reflects too much or too little.
Just play your games and enjoy them.

[Parmida]

Rockpopple wrote...

Pfft. "What if".

What if I was taking a shower and slipped on a bar of soap?

...

Oh my god, I'd be killed!

I pissed myself laughing, thanks!

[Jerrybnsn]

What's the definition of bombing in today's gaming industry. It wasn't to long ago that selling 500,000 copies of an rpg game was a big success. DA2 sold 1.7 million in a year's time, but it didn't sell well compared to Origins' 4.5 million in that same time period. Yet, 1.7 million is good enough for a sequel.

So what is bomb? Only 500,000 sold? Maybe?

[KotorEffect3]

Some people might whine about and hate on the new game but it will also pick up new fans for the series and those fans will replace the ones they lost. I think the series will be fine. I think they learned from DA 2 (which while flawed still had it's good parts as well) and they will apply what they learned to this one.

[Fast Jimmy]

I agree with Jerry. A bomb is a very relative term. AAA games take in very big profits, but they must be large enough profits to GREATLY out weigh their costs, given the length of time it takes to make them. I'd be guessing if I were to assume margins at all, but I'd wager they'd need to be in 30-40% return range. So, depending on the cost of the game, I'd bet very few games don't turn any sort of profit. Whether that profit is 4% or 40% is the real question. You hardly ever see a gaming company to out of business right after a release. It is usually a year or two after, when they are trying to work another game and have no capital to make that game (due to poor sales from the last game not generating enough profit to fund the next) that they take the dive.


Would that happen with Bioware? Doubtful. Even a million units sold would be close to keep the lights on, more or less. But EA is the ultimate determiner of their fate.

[Sylvius the Mad]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

You hardly ever see a gaming company to out of business right after a release.

Sir-Tech did but, yes, it's uncommon.

Modifié par Sylvius the Mad, 19 septembre 2012 - 09:09 .

[Menagra]

DA2 was awesome. I don't care what all the graphic obsessed skyrim fans think, it was amazing even with limited maps. But bioware does care what fans think, and they proved there will be more maps with the last DLC. So DA3 will not bomb.

[Xerxes52]

Then I'd just play another game. Maybe Dragon's Dogma 2 if it's ever made.

IMO, ME3 was good overall except for the ending (EC did a satisfactory job patching it up), and DA2 wasn't bad (but wasn't great either). Right now, I'm still receptive to new Bioware games. I don't have any expectations for DA3, there's been nothing to go on just yet.

Modifié par Xerxes52, 19 septembre 2012 - 09:40 .

[BP93]

Don't look now but we're going for another ring around the bowl!

[VanishedFaces]

Dhiro wrote...

I enjoyed DA 2 and, while ME3 ending was disappointing, I also enjoyed the rest of the game... so yes, I will.

Agreed. Also, Cullen will be romanceable, so nothing could possibly go wrong! Right?

[Shadow Fox]

voice_of_darkness wrote...

Teddie Sage wrote...

Oh there we go again with the paranoia.

 

Considering how DA2 and ME3 turned out, plus both of the founders leaving at the same time and one claiming that he lost the love he had for making games for this company, I'd say that all this paranoia is justified.

Except neither of those games bombed from a finanial point  and ME3 was critically acclaimed despite a vocal minority ****ing about the endings. And you do realize peole leave companies all the time right?Could be they just decided to move on with their lives

[Galactus_the_Devourer]

Agreed. Also, Cullen will be romanceable, so nothing could possibly go wrong! Right?

Wasn't that what people said about Anders?

More seriously, my confidence in Bioware is dented, but then again, so it was after the original NWN and they bounced back from that. I'd be sad to see a great gaming company decline to that degree, but hey, there's always Project Eternity.

[HanErlik]

If this game bombs, Bioware can share the fate of Westwood. The odds are far from perfect for Bioware.They lost many fans with Dragon Age 2 and some with ME3, also their primal project, the Old Republic, didn't do well. I can say that Bioware can't win all his former fans back even if Dragon Age 3 becomes the best RPG of the year. Bioware should understand that RPG genre dramatically changed with CDProjekt's works (GOG.com esp.) and Kickstarter projects. Old school RPG fans are not dependent on Bioware. Thus, trying to find a middle ground between Fifty Shades of Grey generation and Dragonlance generation is a hopeless cause. Bioware should pick one of them and play all its cards on it.

[Conquerthecity]

 After ME3's hype machine I trust Bioware about as much as I'd trust Peter Molyneux telling me how awesome Fable 4 would be. I'll wait for player reaction before even considering DA3. If it's horrible, then I'm really done with Bioware. 

[Jerrybnsn]

Xerxes52 wrote...

Then I'd just play another game. Maybe Dragon's Dogma 2 if it's ever made.

If they could combine the Dragon's Dogma game with the Bioware writing....that game would be the best RPG ever made in the world.  Right after Origins.

[Jerrybnsn]

IIDovahChiiefII wrote...

and what if.this game not only becomes the best RPG of the year, but wins all you haters back to become fanboys again.that is what im hoping for so i can be like "You gone pick that up, cause i called that B*tch"

They still have to overcome the disappearance of the Warden, which had a lot of fan rage, considering the world goes on and their character are still alive but they can't use them.  It's still a big issue with a lot of fans.  Bioware doesn't think so, but they also thought people didn't like outfiting their companions either.

Modifié par Jerrybnsn, 19 septembre 2012 - 11:17 .