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[Rawgrim]

Don`t think it will bomb. I have a good feeling about this one.

[Sylvanpyxie]

I have a good feeling about this one.

That's right up there with "what could possibly go wrong?"

[megamacka]

I was disappointed by the entire game when it comes to ME3, it didn't feel like a RPG anymore and outside of Rannoch and Tuchanka it just fell short to me. And the ending.... Don't even get me started.
I didn't hate DA2 however, it just was NOWHERE close to origins. I still enjoyed it however but I sincerely hope that DA3 will be more like origins with refined combat and graphics.
I fear that wont be the case however.... EA got their nasty hands all over them now. These days it's Games for stock holders and not gamers...

If DA3 proves to be bad I will be a tiny bit surprised since a ton of people from the origins developer team is returning. But I still wont buy the game on release anyway, and if there is another outrage I will either wait untill the price drops ( if it isn't as bad as ME3 ) or borrow it from a friend.
I am not supporting the behaviour from EAware lately. Lying, fake advertising, immature behaviour from certain developers on facebook/twitter. And quite frankly, a lacking game overeall.

My thoughts as a customer, but also as a passionate RPG gamer whom spent hundred upon hundreds of hours on ME1 and 2 and ofcourse DA:O. I also spent a little bit too much time on swtor haha . I wont support this anymore, I've had enough. If Bioware can't step it up and deliver then I am sad to say that I will no longer be their customer. But I still thank them for all of those amazing games, I am just sad to see them go.

Edit: And quite frankly, if I see another '' Oh we release an incomplete game and make you pay extra for that content as a DLC '' I will just boycott it immediatly....  I don't care if they come up with another lame excuse like they did with from ashes. That was a flat out lie and it has already been proven numerous of times.
It's completely unacceptable.

Modifié par megamacka, 19 septembre 2012 - 11:30 .

[Gatt9]

PhillyB wrote...

"What if this game bombs?" More like, "When this game bombs..."

Pretty much this.  If you go surfing various forums,  you'll find the general opinion is "Not buying another EA/Bioware game".  You can also already see the disastorously bad decisions in what we already know,  like multiplayer (Which will be forced) and the War Assets system back again.

The game will sell to a fraction of the already small number of people who bought DA2.  It will be extremely hard for it to make back it's budget,  much less turn a profit.

[Darth Death]

HanErlik wrote...

If this game bombs, Bioware can share the fate of Westwood. The odds are far from perfect for Bioware.They lost many fans with Dragon Age 2 and some with ME3, also their primal project, the Old Republic, didn't do well. I can say that Bioware can't win all his former fans back even if Dragon Age 3 becomes the best RPG of the year. Bioware should understand that RPG genre dramatically changed with CDProjekt's works (GOG.com esp.) and Kickstarter projects. Old school RPG fans are not dependent on Bioware. Thus, trying to find a middle ground between Fifty Shades of Grey generation and Dragonlance generation is a hopeless cause. Bioware should pick one of them and play all its cards on it.

LOL well said & very true.

[Scarlet Rabbi]

Sylvanpyxie wrote...

I have a good feeling about this one.

That's right up there with "what could possibly go wrong?"

Aw, look at how clever this one is. Plagiarism always makes one sound funny and witty doesn't it?

On topic though, Inquisition won't bomb, Dragon Age has ever complaining but very loyal fans. I should know, I'm one of them.

[Shadow Fox]

megamacka wrote...

I was disappointed by the entire game when it comes to ME3, it didn't feel like a RPG anymore and outside of Rannoch and Tuchanka it just fell short to me. And the ending.... Don't even get me started.
I didn't hate DA2 however, it just was NOWHERE close to origins. I still enjoyed it however but I sincerely hope that DA3 will be more like origins with refined combat and graphics.
I fear that wont be the case however.... EA got their nasty hands all over them now. These days it's Games for stock holders and not gamers...

If DA3 proves to be bad I will be a tiny bit surprised since a ton of people from the origins developer team is returning. But I still wont buy the game on release anyway, and if there is another outrage I will either wait untill the price drops ( if it isn't as bad as ME3 ) or borrow it from a friend.
I am not supporting the behaviour from EAware lately. Lying, fake advertising, immature behaviour from certain developers on facebook/twitter. And quite frankly, a lacking game overeall.

My thoughts as a customer, but also as a passionate RPG gamer whom spent hundred upon hundreds of hours on ME1 and 2 and ofcourse DA:O. I also spent a little bit too much time on swtor haha . I wont support this anymore, I've had enough. If Bioware can't step it up and deliver then I am sad to say that I will no longer be their customer. But I still thank them for all of those amazing games, I am just sad to see them go.

Edit: And quite frankly, if I see another '' Oh we release an incomplete game and make you pay extra for that content as a DLC '' I will just boycott it immediatly....  I don't care if they come up with another lame excuse like they did with from ashes. That was a flat out lie and it has already been proven numerous of times.
It's completely unacceptable.

Yeah surely it's all EA's fault because Bioware is totally fautless and can't screw up ever.

[Shadow Fox]

Gatt9 wrote...

PhillyB wrote...

"What if this game bombs?" More like, "When this game bombs..."

Pretty much this.  If you go surfing various forums,  you'll find the general opinion is "Not buying another EA/Bioware game".  You can also already see the disastorously bad decisions in what we already know,  like multiplayer (Which will be forced) and the War Assets system back again.

The game will sell to a fraction of the already small number of people who bought DA2.  It will be extremely hard for it to make back it's budget,  much less turn a profit.

I love how you act like it's a certainty that it will fail because people complain on the internet.

[megamacka]

Yeah surely it's all EA's fault because Bioware is totally fautless and can't screw up ever.

I never claimed that. But I do believe that they do affect them, but it was still Bioware creating the darn thing. Bioware are not infallible. Neither is Blizzard as we've seen lately. No one is. But I do believe that EA are pushing them in a certain direction. Swtor for example felt like it was released six months too early.

  But Blizzard and Bioware for example have succeeded so many more times than they have failed. Sadly, EA and activison... Suddenly **** hits the fan. The gaming industry is changing, stock holders know that RPG games does not sell as much as action games. Sad... but true. Doesn't feel like there is any passion put into games these days.

Modifié par megamacka, 19 septembre 2012 - 11:43 .

[Darth Death]

KnossosTNC wrote...

With DA3, I have this sense that this is Bioware's last chance to show me that there is at least a part of them that is still the same company that once wowed me with Neverwinter Nights and Knights of the Old Republic.

Pretty much this as while. If DA3 fails, then I'm over it. I'll not buy another BioWare game again. 

[megamacka]

Very few things in this world would make me happier than to see DA3 succeed though.
World peace perhaps and hmm...

[Sylvanpyxie]

But I do believe that they do affect them

Rightly so, Publishers will always have moderate amounts of influence, however indirect, over the developers under their wing. EA may not interact directly with the product, but there is a certain amount of pressure on Bioware as a result of publisher rule.

Bioware have made mistakes themselves, but EA's influence as publisher doesn't help the situation either.

Plagiarism always makes one sound funny and witty doesn't it?

Excuse me for being dense, but where exactly did you get plagiarism from?

Modifié par Sylvanpyxie, 19 septembre 2012 - 11:47 .

[PsychoBlonde]

voice_of_darkness wrote...

 I'm just wondering, what will you fans do if DA3 turns out to be as bad as ME3 original ending or DA2? Will you still trust Bioware?

Neither of those games "bombed", btw.

I'll be shocked if they make NO improvements from DA2--I've liked what little I've heard so far, and the constructive criticism has been very interesting.  But I didn't think DA2 was a BAD game--I'll be happy if DA3 is only as much to my personal preferences as DA2 was, how about that.  However, I'd like to see a few mechanical improvements.

[Shadow Fox]

megamacka wrote...

Yeah surely it's all EA's fault because Bioware is totally fautless and can't screw up ever.

I never claimed that. But I do believe that they do affect them, but it was still Bioware creating the darn thing. Bioware are not infallible. Neither is Blizzard as we've seen lately. No one is. But I do believe that EA are pushing them in a certain direction. Swtor for example felt like it was released six months too early.

  But Blizzard and Bioware for example have succeeded so many more times than they have failed. Sadly, EA and activison... Suddenly **** hits the fan. The gaming industry is changing, stock holders know that RPG games does not sell as much as action games. Sad... but true. Doesn't feel like there is any passion put into games these days.

Wasn't it EA that decided to delay ME3 to give the devs more time to work on it? I highly doubt EA WANTS theier games to bomb like so many*not you* seem to believe.

Modifié par Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke, 19 septembre 2012 - 11:59 .

[Jerrybnsn]

PsychoBlonde wrote...

voice_of_darkness wrote...

 I'm just wondering, what will you fans do if DA3 turns out to be as bad as ME3 original ending or DA2? Will you still trust Bioware?

Neither of those games "bombed", btw.

DA2 sold less than Origins....a lot less.   And ME3 sold less than ME2.   Not bombed, I guess.  But what's the word to describe the lower sales?

[megamacka]

Wasn't it EA that decided to delay ME3 to give the devs more time to work on it? I highly doubt EA WANTS theier games to bomb like so many*not you* seem to believe.

I said swtor though. I think ME3 was delayed simply because it was nowhere close to finished. There is a difference between '' nowhere close '' and '' needs a bit more time to be the best that it can be ''. I don't believe EA to be evil per se, but they do use foul play when it comes to marketing and advertisement. They are a company and wants to make money, but lying is completely unacceptable. And then suddenly things seem to be getting worse when it comes to fantastic RPGs. highly influenced by stock holders I believe.

I truly hope Bioware proves me wrong with DA3. I will be the happiest individual on this planet if they do.

[Sylvius the Mad]

Jerrybnsn wrote...

DA2 sold less than Origins....a lot less.

It also cost less to make....a lot less.

Don't get me wrong, DAO was the vastly superior game, but comparing raw sales numbers and concluding that one was therefore less successful is painfully shallow analysis.

[Plaintiff]

If the game bombs, it will only prove to me that consumers are stupid. Something I have long suspected.

[Cultist]

If it bombs, well, there's Obsidian and CDProjekt and I bet some other aspiring developers will try themselves in western RPG field, especially fter success of Obsidian Kickstarter - some developers will be eager to get the audience that can gather 1 700 000$ in several days.

[Crowlover]

Rockpopple wrote...

Pfft. "What if".

What if I was taking a shower and slipped on a bar of soap?

...

Oh my god, I'd be killed!

Oh Captain, my Captain!

[Icinix]

If it bombs - then there is something really, really, really wrong in the BioWare offices at the moment.


...although I do think the question should be...What if it doesn't?

[KiwiQuiche]

Pfft, well hopefully Mac and Casey's stupidity won't infect the DA3 team since they are done in different branches. I'm still kinda shocked they managed to fail so epically with ME3.

In my opinion DA2 was bloody good in the reason of their retarded time restraint- it was what, only a year or so to do it?

Hopefully with a longer time DA3 will be a good game. Though I'm not buying it off the bat; will loan/hire it instead.

[Last Vizard]

I was in EU when ME3 came out, didn't want to believe the reviews about the ME 3 ending, was one of the people worried about the direction DA 2 was taking however I was shouted down... then those people were silent shortly after release, learned my lesson so I'll wait and see what critical players say about the quality of DA3.

Didn't even buy DA 2 DLC.

[HanErlik]

KiwiQuiche wrote...

Pfft, well hopefully Mac and Casey's stupidity won't infect the DA3 team since they are done in different branches. I'm still kinda shocked they managed to fail so epically with ME3.

It is kind of funny, the same thing was said by many people before the release of ME3; "Yes, DA2 was a failure but this game is developing by a different team".