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[RedJohn]

 

Eric Fagnan wrote...
As a heads up, we are looking at balance changes to the Piranha and Carnifex for next week. We feel the Piranha is still too dominant of a weapon even with the recent balance changes and needs further adjustment. Although we haven't touched the Carnifex since ship, we feel it is obscuring too many other weapons in its class and needs some small adjustments as well.

 

 

I usually don't do this kind of post, but I feel this time it is necessary, because Pirahna is not overpowered, either Carniflex.


Lot of people use it yes, but that is not a reason to kill their fun. 

Also, is easy to prove that pirahna is not overpowered, just take it and put it in a Female Quarian Engineer and tell me if you feel the power, no, you won't, because there isn't that power.

Pirahna is only powerful ( like all weapons ) when you put it in a GI, GE or a destroyer but on other characters like Quarian Engineer, Human Sentinel and the rest, you can feel the lack of power of that weapon, the only advantage on those clases is the low weight of the weapon, ideal for caster classes.

So my dead forummates, will we hold the line against this injustice?

I'm with you BSN, i'm against this, now is your turn to let me know if you are with me, will you hold the line with me?, Will you?


Poll for Pirahna
http://social.biowar...79/polls/39543/ 

Poll for Carniflex
http://social.biowar...79/polls/39544/

Modifié par RedJohn, 19 septembre 2012 - 01:34 .

[DeathScepter]

Whom is with me and RedJohn?

[DeathIsHere]

You should make another poll for the Carnifex nerf so everybody can show Bioware that it has almost zero support.

And on topic, voted no. If it's gonna get Krysae'd (which it will), just leave it alone.

[Rifneno]

+1

[Pyroninja42]

Hold the line!

I don't actually use it, but civil disobedience is always a recipe for a fun time.

[OneTrueShot]

Count me in this time. I think the whole next weeks approach is just -wrong-. Bad timing too, players don't need more of an excuse to go elsewhere. Positive reinforcement of this game right now is crucial. I really hope Bioware have enough sense to at least put this off at least another week.

The Argus was a good temptation...But I just don't see it being enough to make people overlook their favourite weapons being destroyed, especially so close to so many other titles attempting to pull them away as is.

[DullahansXMark]

Two HF Blades way up. I hope BioWare listens to one of their best players saying the Piranha really isn't all that spectacular (I like the weapon, but it's overrated... wait, no it isn't. I haven't even seen one used in the last few weeks.)

[iDevour]

wait, where does it say the carnifax + piranha is going to be nerfed?

[born2beagator]

I think the thread should be changed to "I am against all nerfs."

There is literally nothing in this game that needs nerfing at this point.

It would be foolish of bioware to keep killing its guns.  heck it may already be too late.  i think much of this player base is leaving for Borderlands (which I think is a crappy game due to its cartoony graphics)

Modifié par born2beagator, 19 septembre 2012 - 04:04 .

[Ramsutin]

DeathScepter wrote...

Whom is with me and RedJohn?

Yes, Piranha is OP. On GI, Destroyer and HI. So no, Piranha is NOT OP.

Modifié par Ramsutin, 19 septembre 2012 - 04:16 .

[Kingston Atticus]

Give us buffs NOT nerfs! Ok point out thenerf ducks and Let me at em! It is Nerf Duck Season!

[ViciousN8]

I´m with you! Mainly cause i don´t have the Piranha yet, and i want to try it while it´s still useful =)

[kil_edward93]

Another Piranha thread?

[MP-Ryan]

The effectiveness of the Piranha in the hands of particular classes speaks more to imbalance in the classes themselves than the weapon. Compare a GI+Piranha to a Novaguard+Piranha.

The trouble is that by allowing all classes to access all weapons with a weight mechanic, you can either balance the game to weapon damage or power damage. Multiplayer is clearly skewed to weapon damage. With that in mind, class that synergize weapon and power damage (infiltrators) with low cooldown are always going to be overpowered compared to classes that don't (vanguards).

Instead of addressing the symptom - weapon statistical use - BioWare should be addressing the cause: Poorly balanced class design. As it stands, anytime they "balance" low-weight weapons it is going to disproportionately hurt vanguards and adepts without really addressing the fact that soldiers and infiltrators have massive damage boosts with weapons. Easy fix: provide innate weapons damage bonuses or increased power damage on adepts and vanguards to compensate for cooldown, allowing them to use low weight weapons in a way that soldiers/infiltrators could not.

[Josh.de]

+1

...people vote the poll please :-)

...BioTrollWare stop killing OUR guns!

[DullahansXMark]

Kingston Atticus wrote...

Give us buffs NOT nerfs! Ok point out thenerf ducks and Let me at em! It is Nerf Duck Season!

DNC Protoman.

I don't like Capcom at all, so hunting him for his name is fair game by my standards.

[born2beagator]

kil_edward93 wrote...

Another Piranha thread?

We actually need more of these threads.  nerfs are poison to this MP.  There are no guns that need them at this point

[SectiplaveB4]

I completely agree, I run it on a Kroguard at times, and the weapon damage is really very weak without the right class to back it up.

[Rifneno]

Ramsutin wrote...

DeathScepter wrote...

Whom is with me and RedJohn?

Yes, Piranha is OP. On GI, Destroyer and HI. So no.

Oh wow, something does a lot of damage on GI the glass cannon?  I guess everything is OP!

[Seifer006]

*sigh*

if they nerf it then **** it. another great gun ruined.

well I held the line the best I could. but I can't convince of those in power who'll ruin the damn thing

[Razerath]

Whatever the community likes gets nerfed in an attempt to gain more sales via the stupid store. Honestly, the Harrier is more OP and on a lot more classes. Let's look at the Particle Rifle too.

[DeathScepter]

of course, MP-Ryan, certain weapons will always be better on certain classes. that is unavoidable.

This thread is about Piranha is a genuinely good close range Rapid Fired Shotgun regardless of class. Due to it is a Rare weapon, it should be genuinely good on many of the diffculty levels.

[JameJame456xx]

+1
I fully support this.

[GallowsPole]

Solution is simple. Nerf the GI. Every nerf post I read states pretty much everything is OP on the GI. Why nerf the weapon when you can nerf the class?

BSN entertaining today. No one has a damned clue what the nerf will be and everyone up in arms.

Using the Pirahna, from cover with barrel and AP mod, still chops down big bosses fairly easily on any class.

I am GallowsPole! Listen or die! Muahahaha

[Razerath]

GallowsPole wrote...

Solution is simple. Nerf the GI. Every nerf post I read states pretty much everything is OP on the GI. Why nerf the weapon when you can nerf the class?

BSN entertaining today. No one has a damned clue what the nerf will be and everyone up in arms.

Using the Pirahna, from cover with barrel and AP mod, still chops down big bosses fairly easily on any class.

I am GallowsPole! Listen or die! Muahahaha

A lot of weapons are OP on classes that make decent use of guns and not just powers. Marksman, Devastator Mode, T.Cloak to name a few. It's not just the GI.

The Fury is super OP, why not nerf the ability to spam BE's? That can outscore many GI's today.