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[Influ]

At most, the Carnifex should have it's weight increased to 1.1-0.6 to bring it in line with the Talon, Scorpion and the Arc Pistol. Aside from the Arc Pistol (which still requires tweaking), the Carnifex doesn't do anything that much better than the rest of the bunch to justify the higher weight. The Paladin is in a whole another level compared to it. It makes no sense for the Carnifex to weigh as much. I still think the nerf is completely unnecessary.

[Kaithalas]

No changes!

HOLD. THE LINE.

[Installation17]

Pyroninja42 wrote...

Hold the line!

I don't actually use it, but civil disobedience is always a recipe for a fun time.

Yay! Riot time!
Speaking of riots, I'll stick with the N7 Crusader.

[Origin]

 I do agree that the weapons are not too powerful and there is no need for nerfing. It is normal to be more effective on some clases because this makes them effective. On other clases that have powers the weapons are balanced by those powers so those classes are effective too. John is right.

So Bioware, please stop doing this. Improve the weapons, equipment and characters effectiveness instead of nerfing all day long. And fix the bugs and the servers problems (slow communication and unstable connection) instead of messing arround.

Holding the line.

[GallowsPole]

From the Carnifex and Paladin's description, I would think the Carnifex should weigh the same or even more than Paladin. I would hope, that in the future, that the next gen weapons (ie the Paladin) would be a lighter, more effective weapon.

But I'm crazy that way.

[Pavs719]

who is red john anyways?

[Yajuu Omoi]

The Piranha nerf won't really DO much to it.
It drops the Sustained DPS by a whole 120 damage...

Here are the numbers if you wish to argue.

Modifié par Yajuu Omoi, 19 septembre 2012 - 09:20 .

[dddawda]

Eric Fagnan wrote...

I've posted a preview of the changes we're thinking about here.

Sounds perfect.

[DullahansXMark]

The so-called "nerf" really isn't that bad at all. 6 shots instead of 8? Not worth a "Yes please" on that basis, but instead I'll say "yes, please don't destroy the weapon's damage potential".

I'd still prefer no nerf, but I much prefer this over what we speculated.

[Kaithalas]

NO NERF = Best nerf.

[Waffelmeister]

 You all suck. Full of suck. I hate you all. 

Seriously, the negativity in these forums is just awful. The butthhurt level over balancing is just stupidly pervalent here, if they listen to you they're making a bad choice.

[Josh.de]

Waffelmeister wrote...

 You all suck. Full of suck. I hate you all. 

Seriously, the negativity in these forums is just awful. The butthhurt level over balancing is just stupidly pervalent here, if they listen to you they're making a bad choice.

Where is negativity?

The only negative, which the mayority of all MP people agree with, is BioWare killing our guns, nerfing them to death.

This happens because of negatively influenced whiners, these whiners are always the last on the scoreboard, thats why they want weapons nerfed in hopes to "fight back", dreaming to end on the penultimate place in future...

Then there are the few ones who play solo platinum matches and what not, those should just choose a worse weapon, like the predator or anything similar to get their "challenge". It cant be that BioWare is somewhat blind on both eyes to not be able to distinguish white from black.

Modifié par Josh.de, 19 septembre 2012 - 09:55 .

[capn233]

Influ wrote...

At most, the Carnifex should have it's weight increased to 1.1-0.6 to bring it in line with the Talon, Scorpion and the Arc Pistol. Aside from the Arc Pistol (which still requires tweaking), the Carnifex doesn't do anything that much better than the rest of the bunch to justify the higher weight. The Paladin is in a whole another level compared to it. It makes no sense for the Carnifex to weigh as much. I still think the nerf is completely unnecessary.

Eh, really I think the issue with the "large caliber" pistols was more along the lines of the fact that they can substitute for a Sniper Rifle... and indeed they are more versatile.

Instead of weight increase they should probably add a little more recoil onto the Carnifex and maybe take away a smidgen of accuracy.  Main argument against the weight increase people seem to state is that it makes it irrelevant relative to the Paladin... That was sort of already the case if you had a decent level Paladin.

Paladin should not have Black Widow capacity, but it should have noticeably more recoil than the Carnifex... of course landing shots on large targets would not be a problem and you would still have the DPS advantage there, but it would make it slightly more difficult to just shoot people in the head non-stop with that weapon.

Modifié par capn233, 19 septembre 2012 - 10:04 .

[corporal doody]

Josh.de wrote...

Vote poll people.

BW don´t touch the carnifex.

wait wait wait!!!


A bias poll in a bias thread made by a BSN member = credible???


Oh snap...my bad...The Great RedJohn....the BSN celebutant made it....it must be OFFICIAL

[sg1fan75]

stop nerfing weapons.

[Amnesiotic]

Eric Fagnan wrote...

I've posted a preview of the changes we're thinking about here.

It looks like you guys are actually attempting to balance them. I approve.

[RedJohn]

Rubios wrote...

Pavs719 wrote...

who is red john anyways?

I am your father!, of both of you:wizard:

[Waffelmeister]

Rubios wrote...

Pavs719 wrote...

who is red john anyways?

[Kogia]

Waffelmeister wrote...

 You all suck. Full of suck. I hate you all. 

Seriously, the negativity in these forums is just awful. The butthhurt level over balancing is just stupidly pervalent here, if they listen to you they're making a bad choice.

snigger, get over yourself, or are you posting crap like this to try and show the world you're better than a bunch of gaming forum lurkers....

Are you suggesting nobody should ever disagree with anything, everything is great? 

[AleHanSolo]

Despite how relatively minor these nerfs are I'm still 100% against them.
Stop nerfing our guns.

Modifié par AleHanSolo, 19 septembre 2012 - 11:09 .

[sandboxgod]

Thank you RedJohn for standing up for what's right. I feel so oppressed by these devs. Feels like every other week they troll us with yet more nerfs while useless guns are not getting buffed at all. Enough is enough yo.

[PR PistonRage]

+1

Against, it is only effective at very close range. It is fine as it is.

[ErrorTagUnknown]

the pirahna fills its intended role perfectly on casters and the like. THe trick would be finding some way to prevent its O-P-ness heheh on the classes that make it such.

deflate its armor damage modifier? that would keep its use to casters while reducing its use to the boss killing weapon=op classes. Weight increase is definitely a terrible idea.
DPS decrease is a terrible idea.
Maybe REDUCE the accuracy? somehow make it immune from marksman/devastator? the idea is it's an "OH S***" gun for casters when there are enemies way too close that need to die fast. or finishing off an enemy almost downed by powers. REducing the accuracy shouldn't hinder this? the problem is that those classes can make it a friggin fully auto widow essentially... if we can somehow remove that ability without killing the gun or those classes ... then we'd have a solution.
until something of that sort comes around .... leave it be.

And i'm all for nerfs/buffs in propotion to help bring about balance -- but the community is getting super bitter about it, and we need the community to stick together and stay loyal. It's not DESPERATELY in need of a nerf like the krysae was .... it can wait until the RIGHT solution is found.

[Blind2Society]

RedJohn wrote...

Eric Fagnan wrote...

I've posted a preview of the changes we're thinking about here.

That is not bad in my humble opinion, actually seems fair.:happy:

How is a nerf to the carnifex fair?