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[N7 Assass1n]

Honestly, if the nerf is far too fallible, I will just switch full time to the Claymore on my GI. Still wrecks everything...

[OuterRim]

Neither nerf is needed. If they are concerned that those weapons are used to much it would make more sense to buff their UR cousins the Paladin & Wraith. Nerfing things just kills this game. Period.

[ryanshowseason3]

OuterRim wrote...

Neither nerf is needed. If they are concerned that those weapons are used to much it would make more sense to buff their UR cousins the Paladin & Wraith. Nerfing things just kills this game. Period.

Blanket statements are always so helpful and well researched.

I guess the first Krysae nerfs weren't needed then and killed the game?

It was an abomination that ruined the gold difficulty entire lobbies with just it facerolled everything. I'm not sure platinum would have fared well against it either. Your solution would be to make everything else faceroll as well? *inspired* I am infinitely happy you're not the one making decisions then.

Your limited scope of thought is disturbing.

[upinya slayin]

RedJohn wrote...

 

Eric Fagnan wrote...
As a heads up, we are looking at balance changes to the Piranha and Carnifex for next week. We feel the Piranha is still too dominant of a weapon even with the recent balance changes and needs further adjustment. Although we haven't touched the Carnifex since ship, we feel it is obscuring too many other weapons in its class and needs some small adjustments as well.

 

 

I usually don't do this kind of post, but I feel this time it is necessary, because Pirahna is not overpowered, either Carniflex.


Lot of people use it yes, but that is not a reason to kill their fun. 

Also, is easy to prove that pirahna is not overpowered, just take it and put it in a Female Quarian Engineer and tell me if you feel the power, no, you won't, because there isn't that power.

Pirahna is only powerful ( like all weapons ) when you put it in a GI, GE or a destroyer but on other characters like Quarian Engineer, Human Sentinel and the rest, you can feel the lack of power of that weapon, the only advantage on those clases is the low weight of the weapon, ideal for caster classes.

So my dead forummates, will we hold the line against this injustice?

I'm with you BSN, i'm against this, now is your turn to let me know if you are with me, will you hold the line with me?, Will you?


Poll for Pirahna
http://social.biowar...79/polls/39543/ 

Poll for Carniflex
http://social.biowar...79/polls/39544/

red john has spoke. you must listen lol

But inseriousness he is right. you can't nerf a gun becuase its aweosme on 1 character out of the 48 in the game. its an average gun on most of the characters and even outclassed by the reegar and claymore. the reegar does more damage upclose and wipes out shiled like nothing. the pirhanna has no distance w/o a turian soldier , destroyer, or GE/GE. The claymore can one shot any non boss form clear across condor lol. Pirhanna has its neagtives in its bullet spread


Reegar
positives - shield dagame, low wight, high ROF
Negatives - armor damage, range

Claymore
positives - most single shot damage in game up close, nice range with smart choke on
negatives - 1 round clip, high weight

Pirhanna
positives - high DPS due to magazine size, fully automatic, low weight
Negatives - crappy accuracy its unusable w/o a smart choke at any range and has no range even with it


Its on par with most shotguns I can take down most enemies faster with a reegar or claymore then i can with a pirhanna. The pirhanna really shines against the giant atlas becuase its such a big target. but try it on a slim banshee, the claymore and reegar are much better for her

Also BW try the pirhanna on a regular human solder with no weapons mods against ceberus and see if you can land a hit on a phantom. seriously try it. with a claymore i can 1 shot a phantom even on gold from a nice safe distance lol

[SkreeMalicious]

something rises to the top, so its gotta be hammered back down, like whack-a-mole... real question is why must this be the way of things....

[GallowsPole]

Play style dictates to a player, the usefulness of a weapon. I could care less if a reegar or claymore can do better damage. The three have very different mechanics. So the claymore may be of higher dps, but, not suitable for me. I'm not going to fire a beam of light, out of cover, cause it may be 'better'.
Miss with a claymore, you're in trouble. Pirahna is a great, very forgiving automatic weapon that does a great deal of damage in its own right. We won't even mention weight, which allows me to carry my hurricane on plenty of classes.

You play your way, I'll play mine thank you very much.

[N0one]

Enough with the nerfing. I'm on board.

[121210Olivia]

+1.
Instead of nerfing the Carnifex and Piranha, something Eric has indicated is being given serious consideration towards happening in next Tuesday's Balance Update, despite the community by and large saying they do not want it to happen--BUFF the Eagle, Paladin, and Wraith instead. Please!

And on a final note: buffing the Eagle SHOULD see a large percentage of the community not only being HAPPY, but also actually USING this pistol that many have worked for (during Squad and Community Goals on Weekend OPs) that otherwise is left "on the shelf."

Thanks for this timely effort Red John, and I hope you get a graphic card real soon!

Modifié par 121210Olivia, 22 septembre 2012 - 11:34 .

[RGFrog]

ryanshowseason3 wrote...

OuterRim wrote...

Neither nerf is needed. If they are concerned that those weapons are used to much it would make more sense to buff their UR cousins the Paladin & Wraith. Nerfing things just kills this game. Period.

Blanket statements are always so helpful and well researched.

I guess the first Krysae nerfs weren't needed then and killed the game?

It was an abomination that ruined the gold difficulty entire lobbies with just it facerolled everything. I'm not sure platinum would have fared well against it either. Your solution would be to make everything else faceroll as well? *inspired* I am infinitely happy you're not the one making decisions then.

Your limited scope of thought is disturbing.

Then perhaps you should stop with the blanket statements yourself.

The Pirhana is not the red easy button that the krysae was.

[omelet bob]

So, I know it's no profound loss, but if they neff those weapons next week I'm selling the game and picking up something new. Just say, and it's just my opinion, but is there anyone in the same boat?

[Uh Cold]

omelet bob wrote...

So, I know it's no profound loss, but if they neff those weapons next week I'm selling the game and picking up something new. Just say, and it's just my opinion, but is there anyone in the same boat?

Everytime I see someone defending the nerfs that don't need to happen I cringe and picutre myself buying BL2.
Alas I have yet to but the more I read these forums the more I want to just say **** it.

[Battlepope190]

omelet bob wrote...

So, I know it's no profound loss, but if they neff those weapons next week I'm selling the game and picking up something new. Just say, and it's just my opinion, but is there anyone in the same boat?

Sell a game because your easy mode weapon is slightly less easy mode? That's incredibly stupid.

[ryanshowseason3]

RGFrog wrote...

ryanshowseason3 wrote...

OuterRim wrote...

Neither nerf is needed. If they are concerned that those weapons are used to much it would make more sense to buff their UR cousins the Paladin & Wraith. Nerfing things just kills this game. Period.

Blanket statements are always so helpful and well researched.

I guess the first Krysae nerfs weren't needed then and killed the game?

It was an abomination that ruined the gold difficulty entire lobbies with just it facerolled everything. I'm not sure platinum would have fared well against it either. Your solution would be to make everything else faceroll as well? *inspired* I am infinitely happy you're not the one making decisions then.

Your limited scope of thought is disturbing.

Then perhaps you should stop with the blanket statements yourself.

The Pirhana is not the red easy button that the krysae was.

So providing a counter argument and a specific example to back up that argument is a blanket statement? No a blanket statement would be just saying "nerfs are needed sometimes" in response to "nerfs are killing this game". What I did was refute that statement with an example, in fact I don't think I made a statement at all just refuted one. Apparently you don't understand the concept of a blanket statement.

Also I didn't say it was the same situation, just that nerfs in general are not the enemy.

[Skullheart]

I stopped using the Typhoon after its nerf. I might stop using the Piranha too if the nerf converts it into an uncommon weapon.

[Origin]

Skullheart wrote...

I stopped using the Typhoon after its nerf. I might stop using the Piranha too if the nerf converts it into an uncommon weapon.

Same here. And it's too bad, because the Typhoon had great potential.

The people that are so willing to accept anything and everything should ask themselves why they should give up to their rights. We have the weapons as they are today and it's our right. We own them - we've paid a lot to get them (credits or real money due to the stupid store random generator).
So, think again and then vote.

Bioware should start listening to their customers and stop this nerfing / downgrading practice.

Modifié par Aekshin, 24 septembre 2012 - 02:08 .

[Sgt Bilko]

Nerfs aren't killing the game, public perception of them are. If they nerf the Piranha, I'd suggest a Rof Nerf if anything, nothing big but enough to bring the UR Shotgun (The Wraith) back into usable territory. The carnifex can be left alone, it's a great weapon for people who are only just picking up the game. Every weapon can be used after it has been nerfed. And not just on a class that has weapon bonus'. It's simple, if they nerf it then we must adapt to it.