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I am RedJohn and I am against the Pirahna nerf. [POLL]


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#76
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mybudgee wrote...

Sorry guys, but the N7 Piranha must die...


Why?

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darkpassenger2342 wrote...

usually everyone is saying " range doesnt matter in mass effect mp, CQC is the only range that matters, thats why we all sprint to the spawns with our pirahnas!!!!"
but when they talk about fixing this this gun, it becomes " but its only good in cqc!!!"
which is it?


thus the ONLY shortcoming of the piranha...THE SHORT RANGE....has been negated!

 

Modifié par corporal doody, 19 septembre 2012 - 05:27 .


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DarthRevan4life

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Consider me in, I will hold the line!

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Maker MEDA

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I will hold the line with you RedJohn.

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Anyone seen "office space"??
DIE MUTHAF*CKA DIE MUTHAF*CKA DIE!

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I'm against the Piranha nerf and voted that way. I don't think a carnifex nerf is needed but I could buy the argument for a very small weight increase so that the fact it is heavier actually becomes relevant.

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mybudgee wrote...

Anyone seen "office space"??
DIE MUTHAF*CKA DIE MUTHAF*CKA DIE!


thanks for the image of 3 guys in collared shirts smashing the pirahna with baseball bats LOL.

Modifié par darkpassenger2342, 19 septembre 2012 - 05:32 .


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Malanek999 wrote...

I'm against the Piranha nerf and voted that way. I don't think a carnifex nerf is needed but I could buy the argument for a very small weight increase so that the fact it is heavier actually becomes relevant.


so between the carnifex and piranha...

which weapon do you think is better? and which weapon do you use more of?

Modifié par corporal doody, 19 septembre 2012 - 05:33 .


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I would really rather it didn't get a nerf. Voted.

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corporal doody wrote...

Malanek999 wrote...

I'm against the Piranha nerf and voted that way. I don't think a carnifex nerf is needed but I could buy the argument for a very small weight increase so that the fact it is heavier actually becomes relevant.


so between the carnifex and piranha...

which weapon do you think is better? and which weapon do you use more of?

I use both of them on quite a few characters. Probably Carnifex more. They are both good.

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JaimasOfRaxis

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Signed, brother Krogan.

You shall not fight alone.

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corporal doody

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Malanek999 wrote...

corporal doody wrote...

Malanek999 wrote...

I'm against the Piranha nerf and voted that way. I don't think a carnifex nerf is needed but I could buy the argument for a very small weight increase so that the fact it is heavier actually becomes relevant.


so between the carnifex and piranha...

which weapon do you think is better? and which weapon do you use more of?

I use both of them on quite a few characters. Probably Carnifex more. They are both good.


good answer. but yeah...i cant see a reason for a nerf of the carnifex...save for a slight weight increase. maybe decrease ammo capacity....IF a nerf was absolutely needed.

my opinion on the piranha...well.....not so shiny happy.

one thing i dont dig....In pugs...when dudes with the piranha rush off to close the gap (i.e. the range issue) so they can unload OP goodness....THEY GET MAD IF THEY DIE and no one revives them.  

Tough i say

Modifié par corporal doody, 19 septembre 2012 - 05:38 .


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I'll support that it isn't the gun and is in fact the class + gun combo that makes this weapon's use OP.

That doesn't mean nothing should be done about it, though. If they could nerf weapons per class there wouldn't be an issue.

Oh, and if we are to think that the Piranha is super powerful on the Destroyer as well, a weight increase won't do jack **** to him. It just goes to show a class-wide nerf isn't the best approach.

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Oh, look, something that is made OP on 3 specific characters with specific bonuses... It must be OP for everything.

That's a type of logic, i guess.

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RGFrog wrote...

Oh, look, something that is made OP on 3 specific characters with specific bonuses... It must be OP for everything.

That's a type of logic, i guess.



a Human Engineer with a Piranha....and a Human Engineer with a Scimitar (or anyother shotty for that matter save for the reegar...hell....anyother WEAPON used exclusively at pointblank range).....who wins?


weapons only. no powers. 

Modifié par corporal doody, 19 septembre 2012 - 05:43 .


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corporal doody wrote...

RGFrog wrote...

Oh, look, something that is made OP on 3 specific characters with specific bonuses... It must be OP for everything.

That's a type of logic, i guess.



a Human Engineer with a Piranha....and a Human Engineer with a Scimitar.....who wins?



Piranha.   but that's a rare weapon compared to uncommon (I think)

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corporal doody wrote...

RGFrog wrote...

Oh, look, something that is made OP on 3 specific characters with specific bonuses... It must be OP for everything.

That's a type of logic, i guess.



a Human Engineer with a Piranha....and a Human Engineer with a Scimitar.....who wins?


The Human Engineer with the Piranha, because he's not N7 Rank 40 or so, packing a Krysae as well, and specced for Incinerate.

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ASmoothCriminalx wrote...

corporal doody wrote...

RGFrog wrote...

Oh, look, something that is made OP on 3 specific characters with specific bonuses... It must be OP for everything.

That's a type of logic, i guess.



a Human Engineer with a Piranha....and a Human Engineer with a Scimitar.....who wins?



Piranha.   but that's a rare weapon compared to uncommon (I think)


than...piranha VERSUS any other rare shotty...hell....ULTRA RARE....save for the Reegar (cuz the reegar is something else)

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JaimasOfRaxis wrote...

corporal doody wrote...

RGFrog wrote...

Oh, look, something that is made OP on 3 specific characters with specific bonuses... It must be OP for everything.

That's a type of logic, i guess.



a Human Engineer with a Piranha....and a Human Engineer with a Scimitar.....who wins?


The Human Engineer with the Piranha, because he's not N7 Rank 40 or so, packing a Krysae as well, and specced for Incinerate.


my n7 is above 3k...i run around with the scimitar on my HE for s's&g's. I have been able to hold my own against people with a claymore....powerful but slowrate of fire. The piranha? cant even try.

the scimitar tickles at long range on gold.....and is so-so upclose.... so long as you got a fast finger firing semi auto...

Modifié par corporal doody, 19 septembre 2012 - 05:48 .


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corporal doody wrote...

good answer. but yeah...i cant see a reason for a nerf of the carnifex...save for a slight weight increase. maybe decrease ammo capacity....IF a nerf was absolutely needed.


Really? What is the reason you see? It's not enough like the Paladin? Cuz it doesn't magic button anything in the DPS side.

It's sustained DPS is all of 13 points higher than the Phalanx which is an uncommon. So, a rare weapon that's only barely more powerful than an uncommon needs a nerf? Because it's being used?

Any nerf to the Carnifex makes it less useful than an uncommon Phalanx which right now has a 1 point higher reload cancelled DPS.

Yep, I can see a reason, too, for the Carnifex to be nerf'd. Multiple reasons and none of them have anything to do with the gun itself.

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corporal doody wrote...

JaimasOfRaxis wrote...

corporal doody wrote...

RGFrog wrote...

Oh, look, something that is made OP on 3 specific characters with specific bonuses... It must be OP for everything.

That's a type of logic, i guess.



a Human Engineer with a Piranha....and a Human Engineer with a Scimitar.....who wins?


The Human Engineer with the Piranha, because he's not N7 Rank 40 or so, packing a Krysae as well, and specced for Incinerate.


my n7 is above 3k...i run around with the scimitar on my HE for s's&g's. I have been able to hold my own against people with a claymore....powerful but slowrate of fire. The piranha? cant even try.


Was joking, obviously. Get what you mean, though.

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RGFrog wrote...

corporal doody wrote...

good answer. but yeah...i cant see a reason for a nerf of the carnifex...save for a slight weight increase. maybe decrease ammo capacity....IF a nerf was absolutely needed.


Really? What is the reason you see? It's not enough like the Paladin? Cuz it doesn't magic button anything in the DPS side.

It's sustained DPS is all of 13 points higher than the Phalanx which is an uncommon. So, a rare weapon that's only barely more powerful than an uncommon needs a nerf? Because it's being used?

Any nerf to the Carnifex makes it less useful than an uncommon Phalanx which right now has a 1 point higher reload cancelled DPS.

Yep, I can see a reason, too, for the Carnifex to be nerf'd. Multiple reasons and none of them have anything to do with the gun itself.


huh....i love that SPIN.  i say I cant see a reason...but......sure...ignore that.

Yeah...love for the BSN.

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Piranha, in terms of damage, is not overpowered. Weight increase wouldn't be terrible. Accuracy decrease wouldn't suck too bad. Damage and/or ROF would probably kill it.

Carnifex is fine where it is. What other pistols does it overshadow? All pistols really have their niche. The only pistol changes I could see is a buff to paladin damage(very little) and a weight reduction to eagle(to warrant it's special rarity).

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corporal doody wrote...

my n7 is above 3k...i run around with the scimitar on my HE for s's&g's. I have been able to hold my own against [...] The piranha? cant even try.

the scimitar tickles at long range on gold.....and is so-so upclose.... so long as you got a fast finger firing semi auto...


roflmao, first at the n7 rank card you pulled, then at everything else.

What does this prove? Only that you can be effective with a Scimitar, the 2nd most useless shotgun in the game. 

So, it's back to the old argument "I'm an elite and can't outscore some other player like my ego tells me I should"?

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Oh, and big oops on the misread above. Thanks for pointing that out.

Modifié par RGFrog, 19 septembre 2012 - 06:01 .


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RGFrog wrote...

corporal doody wrote...

my n7 is above 3k...i run around with the scimitar on my HE for s's&g's. I have been able to hold my own against CLAYMORE The piranha? cant even try.

the scimitar tickles at long range on gold.....and is so-so upclose.... so long as you got a fast finger firing semi auto...


roflmao, first at the n7 rank card you pulled, then at everything else.

What does this prove? Only that you can be effective with a Scimitar, the 2nd most useless shotgun in the game. 

So, it's back to the old argument "I'm an elite and can't outscore some other player like my ego tells me I should"?

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Oh, and big oops on the misread above. Thanks for pointing that out.



HAHAHAHA! sure buddy..sure.


HAHAHAHAHA!!  roger that cool cat.

i like how you latched on to my N7 score. cuz you probably think...N7 DOESNT MEAN ANYTHING...unless it is HIGH...THEN YOU ARE BLAH BLAH BLAH!

yup.


OP weapon...the great equalizer!!


oh..i put back in claymore...cuz that is one hell of a weapon too...but it aint about that...

Modifié par corporal doody, 19 septembre 2012 - 06:05 .