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[GallowsPole]

Im still laughing from reading the thread title. That, and the fact that the BSN actually thinks it represents the larger MP community. If you play enough (and judging by this board most play with friends, or so they claim), you will know that the casual gamer will latch on to anything that will make their life easier. I'm sure BW data shows that.

So you, 100 people complaining daily about this MP can go play something else. It's bad enough that BW actually listens to some of the chuckleheads on this forum. I personally don't have nearly HALF the disconnect issues. I VG glitched ONCE since launch. I could go on and on and I'm SURE I'm not the only one.

Sheesh. Now I remember why I don't play MP anymore. The communities blow. THAT'S the real reason this MP is the way it is.

[Heldarion]

Damnit, I just started using Piranha, don't nerf it, it's amazing! And Carnifex... why would you nerf THAT. It's a decent flippin' pistol ._.

By the way, what's all the fuss about "Piranha will die soon"? Did some Bioware employee mention they discussed Piranha nerf?

[Kogia]

GallowsPole wrote...

Im still laughing from reading the thread title. That, and the fact that the BSN actually thinks it represents the larger MP community. If you play enough (and judging by this board most play with friends, or so they claim), you will know that the casual gamer will latch on to anything that will make their life easier. I'm sure BW data shows that.

So you, 100 people complaining daily about this MP can go play something else. It's bad enough that BW actually listens to some of the chuckleheads on this forum. I personally don't have nearly HALF the disconnect issues. I VG glitched ONCE since launch. I could go on and on and I'm SURE I'm not the only one.

Sheesh. Now I remember why I don't play MP anymore. The communities blow. THAT'S the real reason this MP is the way it is.

Not sure if intended, but you come across as more angry & arrogant than you have any right to if you're whinging about whinging on a web forum. 

You're also not making a very clear point, if you're trying to be superior, you need to make clear & valid points, otherwise you just look more foolish & if you don't play the mp any longer, why are you reading & posting on here?? 

[GallowsPole]

Angry and arrogant? Nope. I still play. Superior? Hahaha. No. I save that for you worshippers of speed runs and solo videos so you guys can cream your pants when RedJohn posts a topic. Sorry, at 43 years old, I find that hilarious. No more, no less. It's funny.

I guess that's the problem. See, I'm not trying to make superior posts. I, seriously, do not have half the issues people complain about daily on here. And go through the forum. Same people, same issues. Now how many peeps play this game? How many registered forum members ( of which not all even play MP)?

Sorry that conveying words through the Internet makes it difficult to convey intent.

[Rivercurse]

Great, so as soon as Ray and Greg retire, all of a sudden everythings goin to ****. I blame EA.

amidoinitritebsn?

[IndigoVitare]

The Piranha will still tear bosses apart on classes other than a Destroyer. Any class that's close range excells with it. It's a better choice than the Wraith, an Ultra Rare, due to its high DPS, ROF and low weight. This does not mean the Wraith needs buffing. The Wraith is an excellent weapon that does exactly what its supposed to. It means that the Piranha needs nerfing.

The fact that the thread about this nerf has people complaining that it's the only good shotgun, or the only shotgun they can use only proves it needs that nerf.

[C2Dre]

HOLD THE LINE!!!

[Kenadian]

Polls need a "don't care about overdone weapons anymore."

[Computron2000]

GallowsPole wrote...
Sheesh. Now I remember why I don't play MP anymore.

GallowsPole wrote...
I still play.

Either statement from the same person is false = person is lying = correct response is "yeah whatever you say man".

Yeah, whatever you say man

[GallowsPole]

Computron2000 wrote...

GallowsPole wrote...
Sheesh. Now I remember why I don't play MP anymore.

GallowsPole wrote...
I still play.

Either statement from the same person is false = person is lying = correct response is "yeah whatever you say man".

Yeah, whatever you say man

Ive played MP starting like 20 years ago. And guess what, communities haven't changed much. So it goes a long time, for me in between. This is the first MP I've played in 3 years, and it was like 10 years before that. Same crap, different time.

[darkblade]

Support carnifex nerf

Pirahna nerf is bad, but its whatever. People will learn about bandwagon riding. They watch these youtube videos and try to mimic the soloers setups and over half the community ends up using the same gun...you really think BW isn't going to do something?

If everyone started running eagles theyd nerf it, its really that simple.

[Gosha190]

+1

BW! Make trash weapons better. Dont touch worth weapons.

[SavagelyEpic]

GallowsPole wrote...

Angry and arrogant? Nope. I still play. Superior? Hahaha. No. I save that for you worshippers of speed runs and solo videos so you guys can cream your pants when RedJohn posts a topic. Sorry, at 43 years old, I find that hilarious. No more, no less. It's funny.

I guess that's the problem. See, I'm not trying to make superior posts. I, seriously, do not have half the issues people complain about daily on here. And go through the forum. Same people, same issues. Now how many peeps play this game? How many registered forum members ( of which not all even play MP)?

Sorry that conveying words through the Internet makes it difficult to convey intent.

Except saying that you're not trying to appear superior while obviously and blatanting lording it above the rest of us you're so eager to cover with your blanket assumptions does nothing to actually make your intended audience believe you're not trying to appear superior.

TLDR; telling people you're not trying to make yourself look good while erecting a statue of yourself can be hard to believe. 
...Especially when you lay down huge blanket assumptions on EVERYONE who isn't you.

Modifié par SavagelyEpic, 19 septembre 2012 - 12:35 .

[Malachaai]

 Ermm... back on topic 

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Bioware please leave my Piranha alone!!!

[Paurth8_12]

Save Piranha!

[megabeast37215]

I support the Piranha Nerf... I do NOT support the Carnifex nerf however.

I don't go into games and see 2-3 Carnifex's per match... but I do see that many Piranhas.

Nerf the damage hard, increase ROF and clip size. This will make the Piranha still extremely deadly vs mooks, but it won't be the OP boss melter that it currently is.

[Enhanced]

On the poll, the "no" should be first  or above "yes, not vice versa.

Modifié par Enhanced, 19 septembre 2012 - 12:54 .

[Happy Shepard]

GallowsPole wrote...

Im still laughing from reading the thread title. That, and the fact that the BSN actually thinks it represents the larger MP community. If you play enough (and judging by this board most play with friends, or so they claim), you will know that the casual gamer will latch on to anything that will make their life easier. I'm sure BW data shows that.

So you, 100 people complaining daily about this MP can go play something else. It's bad enough that BW actually listens to some of the chuckleheads on this forum. I personally don't have nearly HALF the disconnect issues. I VG glitched ONCE since launch. I could go on and on and I'm SURE I'm not the only one.

Sheesh. Now I remember why I don't play MP anymore. The communities blow. THAT'S the real reason this MP is the way it is.

That's the problem. BW doesn't get that the vast majority of average and casual players don't know anything about "game-breaking" biulds, powerful power + weapon combinations (reegar + flamer, for instance) and even about the power of the GI. It's just one of many games to them and they mostly don't play enough to max out their manifest or even get weapons like the Harrier.

The truth is, we don't see all those Piranhas because they are sooo op with certain biulds, but because it's a weapon that is easy to use and hard to miss at CQC. Shotguns like the GPS, Wraith or Claymore require actual skill and training to be used efficiently. The Carnifex is similar. It's the perfect caster weapon for casual players because of it's mix between all the other light weapons' qualities. And yes, these guns - especially because they are unlocked very quickly - make life for average players easier. 

What i'm trying to say is that BW shouldn't "punish" all those casual and average players because some people found a way to use this weapon, with a certain class and with a certain style of play, to nuke whole spawns in higher difficulties to get credits easier or do faster speedruns. Because in the end, new weapons are going to be released or older ones get buffed, and people will figure out new ways to beat Platinum more easily. But your average joe gamer won't be able to figure out what happened to their favorite gun over night and will probably get frustrated. If this happens over and over again, i'm pretty sure most of these guys just quit.

Of course, i can't speak for anybody else here, but it's unfair to say that we're just afraid that our fancy toys get taken away from us. Because, as you said, it's not about "elite gamers" (hate this expression -.-), but about the whole community, including all the people that can't solo Gold or Platinum.

Sorry for this long reply, but i had to say it. 
 

Modifié par Happy Shepard, 19 septembre 2012 - 12:57 .

[Acyl]

Hell, I don't usually post in these threads, but I'm gonna post in this one. For crying out loud, the Piranha and Carnifex announcements are just wrong-headed. What, you're gonna nerf them because too many people are using them? All that means is people like to use them.

When I use the Piranha now, it's not because it's overwhelmingly powerful, I use it because it's the only damn full auto shotgun. Introduce another, and I bet you'll see people using it too.

[SavagelyEpic]

megabeast37215 wrote...

Nerf the damage hard, increase ROF and clip size. This will make the Piranha still extremely deadly vs mooks, but it won't be the OP boss melter that it currently is.

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To be honest, I'm not sure how I feel about this.

[GallowsPole]

On my iPad so I can't keep quoting.

@Savagely I speak as a casual gamer who, not only can play this game quite easily, but for the life of me, will never understand why we have weapons trying to be balanced across 4 difficulties. Neither side would support a nerf. It's not in their best interests. Gold/Platinum, the guns are fine. For the casual Bronze/Silver players, weapons they can easily use and enjoy their games.

People new to MP get the shaft. So my comments, if they seem "blanketing", is because BW set it up that way.

[Rebel_Raven]

megabeast37215 wrote...

I support the Piranha Nerf... I do NOT support the Carnifex nerf however.

I don't go into games and see 2-3 Carnifex's per match... but I do see that many Piranhas.

Nerf the damage hard, increase ROF and clip size. This will make the Piranha still extremely deadly vs mooks, but it won't be the OP boss melter that it currently is.

I'd hope it could atleast hurt bosses as opposed to be the shotgun version of the Phaeston, or GPR as far as people who're not weapon specialists go.

'd prolly tighten the spread, and boost the accuracy some, too.

Modifié par Rebel_Raven, 19 septembre 2012 - 01:11 .

[born2beagator]

419 to 19 against for the Carnfiex

431 to 60 against for the Piranha

In other words, keep your hands off these weapons Bioware. heck stop nerfing period. There is nothing in the game that needs nerfs.

We need patches and buffs for weak guns, but NOT NERFS

[shepskisaac]

Someone stop the Nerf Cult, haven't they done enough?!