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[Blackrising]

Vandicus wrote...

Blackrising wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...

Versus Omnibus wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...

Don't even know why you are talking about lesbian sex and straight sex to begin with. Don't see your point.

I fail to see your own. How would an optional romance break Dragon Age's "premise?"

My point is we don't need a female qunari in our bed, just because they are hot. For the sake of it, stupid fanservice.

But a Kossith (whether Qunari or Tal-Vashoth, male or female) LI would certainly introduce an interesting dynamic, wouldn't you say? The Kossith are a fascinating people.
The fact that they're hot is just a bonus.

For the sake of argument, wouldn't the Qunari female have to be considered an outlaw? I doubt the very hierarchical Qunari normal society would allow such an affair. Also, the ones that are outlaws still act as though they're a specific part of the hierarchy that everyone else is supposed to attack, as though they're playing a role. I don't really get Qunari logic, but this might make any attempt at romance difficult.

That's true.
I suppose a Kossith LI would either have to have grown up somewhere outside of Qunari influence (maybe s/he got adopted by a Fereldan family or whatever) or have serious doubts about the society the Qunari enforce and the role they were forced into.

[Sylvianus]

Blackrising wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...

Versus Omnibus wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...

Don't even know why you are talking about lesbian sex and straight sex to begin with. Don't see your point.

I fail to see your own. How would an optional romance break Dragon Age's "premise?"

My point is we don't need a female qunari in our bed, just because they are hot. For the sake of it, stupid fanservice.

But a Kossith (whether Qunari or Tal-Vashoth, male or female) LI would certainly introduce an interesting dynamic, wouldn't you say? The Kossith are a fascinating people.
The fact that they're hot is just a bonus.

If it is more than that, then why not. But I was reading to the Op, and the first posts and I didn't feel it was more than, " I want a female qunari in my bed. " Gives me an npc or something I could be satisfied with. If it introduces an interesting dynamic, story, etc, etc, yes. sure. Precisely because kossiths are interesting, it would be disappointing if it wasn't good. But I wouldn't like a kossith romance just to please the fans if normally it wouldn't be really possible in the qunari logic.

Modifié par Sylvianus, 23 septembre 2012 - 10:53 .

[Vandicus]

Blackrising wrote...

That's true.
I suppose a Kossith LI would either have to have grown up somewhere outside of Qunari influence (maybe s/he got adopted by a Fereldan family or whatever) or have serious doubts about the society the Qunari enforce and the role they were forced into.

That's an interesting idea. We've seen non-Qunari who follow the Qun, but we've never seen a member of the Qunari species who grows up unaware of the Qun or rejects the Qun. 

[Versus Omnibus]

Blackrising wrote...

That's true.
I suppose a Kossith LI would either have to have grown up somewhere outside of Qunari influence (maybe s/he got adopted by a Fereldan family or whatever) or have serious doubts about the society the Qunari enforce and the role they were forced into.

I figured the same thing. We never seen a Qunari/Tal-Vashoth raised outside the Qun, so if we do get a woman as a LI she would need to be adopted.

[The Hierophant]

Sylvianus wrote...

Blackrising wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...

Versus Omnibus wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...

Don't even know why you are talking about lesbian sex and straight sex to begin with. Don't see your point.

I fail to see your own. How would an optional romance break Dragon Age's "premise?"

My point is we don't need a female qunari in our bed, just because they are hot. For the sake of it, stupid fanservice.

But a Kossith (whether Qunari or Tal-Vashoth, male or female) LI would certainly introduce an interesting dynamic, wouldn't you say? The Kossith are a fascinating people.
The fact that they're hot is just a bonus.

If it is more than that, then why not. But I was reading to the Op, and the first posts and I didn't feel it was more than, " I want a female qunari in my bed. " Gives me an npc or something I could be satisfied. If it introduces an interesting dynamic, story, etc, etc, yes. sure. Precisely because kossiths are interesting, it would be disappointing if it wasn't good. But I wouldn't like a romance just to please the fans if normally it wouldn't be really possible in the qunari logic.

The Kossith could turn down the pc's advances like Aveline did.

[Sylvianus]

The Hierophant wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...

Blackrising wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...

Versus Omnibus wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...

Don't even know why you are talking about lesbian sex and straight sex to begin with. Don't see your point.

I fail to see your own. How would an optional romance break Dragon Age's "premise?"

My point is we don't need a female qunari in our bed, just because they are hot. For the sake of it, stupid fanservice.

But a Kossith (whether Qunari or Tal-Vashoth, male or female) LI would certainly introduce an interesting dynamic, wouldn't you say? The Kossith are a fascinating people.
The fact that they're hot is just a bonus.

If it is more than that, then why not. But I was reading to the Op, and the first posts and I didn't feel it was more than, " I want a female qunari in my bed. " Gives me an npc or something I could be satisfied. If it introduces an interesting dynamic, story, etc, etc, yes. sure. Precisely because kossiths are interesting, it would be disappointing if it wasn't good. But I wouldn't like a romance just to please the fans if normally it wouldn't be really possible in the qunari logic.

The Kossith could turn down the pc's advances like Aveline did.

But here, people want a kossith in their bed.

[Versus Omnibus]

Sylvianus wrote...

If it is more than that, then why not. But I was reading to the Op, and the first posts and I didn't feel it was more than, " I want a female qunari in my bed. " Gives me an npc or something I could be satisfied with. If it introduces an interesting dynamic, story, etc, etc, yes. sure. Precisely because kossiths are interesting, it would be disappointing if it wasn't good. But I wouldn't like a kossith romance just to please the fans if normally it wouldn't be really possible in the qunari logic.

We might get a Tal-Vashoth who was raised outside the Qun, but I agree. If we don't get a full, fleshed out character then forget it.

[Blackrising]

The Hierophant wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...

Blackrising wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...

Versus Omnibus wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...

Don't even know why you are talking about lesbian sex and straight sex to begin with. Don't see your point.

I fail to see your own. How would an optional romance break Dragon Age's "premise?"

My point is we don't need a female qunari in our bed, just because they are hot. For the sake of it, stupid fanservice.

But a Kossith (whether Qunari or Tal-Vashoth, male or female) LI would certainly introduce an interesting dynamic, wouldn't you say? The Kossith are a fascinating people.
The fact that they're hot is just a bonus.

If it is more than that, then why not. But I was reading to the Op, and the first posts and I didn't feel it was more than, " I want a female qunari in my bed. " Gives me an npc or something I could be satisfied. If it introduces an interesting dynamic, story, etc, etc, yes. sure. Precisely because kossiths are interesting, it would be disappointing if it wasn't good. But I wouldn't like a romance just to please the fans if normally it wouldn't be really possible in the qunari logic.

The Kossith could turn down the pc's advances like Aveline did.

The whole fandom would weep as a unit that day.

[The Hierophant]

Sylvianus wrote...

The Hierophant wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...

Blackrising wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...

Versus Omnibus wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...

Don't even know why you are talking about lesbian sex and straight sex to begin with. Don't see your point.

I fail to see your own. How would an optional romance break Dragon Age's "premise?"

My point is we don't need a female qunari in our bed, just because they are hot. For the sake of it, stupid fanservice.

But a Kossith (whether Qunari or Tal-Vashoth, male or female) LI would certainly introduce an interesting dynamic, wouldn't you say? The Kossith are a fascinating people.
The fact that they're hot is just a bonus.

If it is more than that, then why not. But I was reading to the Op, and the first posts and I didn't feel it was more than, " I want a female qunari in my bed. " Gives me an npc or something I could be satisfied. If it introduces an interesting dynamic, story, etc, etc, yes. sure. Precisely because kossiths are interesting, it would be disappointing if it wasn't good. But I wouldn't like a romance just to please the fans if normally it wouldn't be really possible in the qunari logic.

The Kossith could turn down the pc's advances like Aveline did.

But here, people want a kossith in their bed.

Romance is alien to them, and relationships are only for procreation. Unless the kossith companion spent their entire life outside of Qunari lands, bedding/romancing them would be ooc.

Modifié par The Hierophant, 23 septembre 2012 - 11:00 .

[Versus Omnibus]

Blackrising wrote...

The whole fandom would weep as a unit that day.

So, would that make it a plot-armor **** block?

[Blackrising]

The Hierophant wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...

The Hierophant wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...

Blackrising wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...

Versus Omnibus wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...

Don't even know why you are talking about lesbian sex and straight sex to begin with. Don't see your point.

I fail to see your own. How would an optional romance break Dragon Age's "premise?"

My point is we don't need a female qunari in our bed, just because they are hot. For the sake of it, stupid fanservice.

But a Kossith (whether Qunari or Tal-Vashoth, male or female) LI would certainly introduce an interesting dynamic, wouldn't you say? The Kossith are a fascinating people.
The fact that they're hot is just a bonus.

If it is more than that, then why not. But I was reading to the Op, and the first posts and I didn't feel it was more than, " I want a female qunari in my bed. " Gives me an npc or something I could be satisfied. If it introduces an interesting dynamic, story, etc, etc, yes. sure. Precisely because kossiths are interesting, it would be disappointing if it wasn't good. But I wouldn't like a romance just to please the fans if normally it wouldn't be really possible in the qunari logic.

The Kossith could turn down the pc's advances like Aveline did.

But here, people want a kossith in their bed.

Romance is alien to them, and relationships are only for procreation. Unless the kossith companion spent their entire life outside of Qunari lands, bedding/romancing them would be ooc.

But it can't be that all Kossith are the same, can it? I mean, there's bound to be a few out there who have doubts about their society and might be interested in exploring new things.
They are still individuals.

Modifié par Blackrising, 23 septembre 2012 - 11:04 .

[The Hierophant]

Blackrising wrote...
The whole fandom would weep as a unit that day.

The fallout would be epic though.

[Vandicus]

Blackrising wrote...


But it can't be that all Kossith are the same, can it? I mean, there's bound to be a few out there who have doubts about their society and might be interested in exploring new things.
They are stil individuals.

Sometimes I wonder whether there's some form of mind control involved. The outlaws play the role of people who are supposed to be killed. I mean these people are outside the laws of the Qun, yet they still obey their prescribed role. The success rate of Qun conversion of non-Qunari is also quite remarkable. I would expect people from outside highly collectivist/stratified cultures to have more resistance to it.

[The Hierophant]

@Blackrising - A li is possible but their world view is shaped by the Qun since they were able to talk, and understanding different concepts would be difficult for them.The problem would be writing a believable romance, because Kossith relationships are only for breeding puposes by Qun logic.

Modifié par The Hierophant, 23 septembre 2012 - 11:14 .

[Blackrising]

Vandicus wrote...

Blackrising wrote...


But it can't be that all Kossith are the same, can it? I mean, there's bound to be a few out there who have doubts about their society and might be interested in exploring new things.
They are stil individuals.

Sometimes I wonder whether there's some form of mind control involved. The outlaws play the role of people who are supposed to be killed. I mean these people are outside the laws of the Qun, yet they still obey their prescribed role. The success rate of Qun conversion of non-Qunari is also quite remarkable. I would expect people from outside highly collectivist/stratified cultures to have more resistance to it.

Just you wait. It'll turn out that the Qunari have been using red lyrium to control the minds of their people for ages.

I think the Qunari philosophy can be very tempting for someone searching for a purpose. In Qunari society, everyone has a role assigned to them. They don't need to think because it's all decided for them. For someone who is born into such a society, someone who has never known otherwise, it probably is some sort of mind control. Upbringing shapes every single one of us and you can imagine how much bigger that effect is in a society where it's 'accept your role' or 'get killed'.
I'm inclined to say that numerous religions throughout history have benefited from a similiar 'lost sheep' (following without having to think) phenomenon, but that will probably get a discussion going I'm not sure I want to be part of and I'll admit that I may not be the most well-informed person when it comes to that subject.

[Blackrising]

The Hierophant wrote...

@Blackrising - A li is possible but their world view is shaped by the Qun since they were able to talk, and understanding different concepts would be difficult for them.The problem would be writing a believable romance, because Kossith relationships are only for breeding puposes by Qun logic.

It would be a challenge, yes.
If the LI were a part of the Qun, it would have to be someone who has been unsatisfied with the teachings of the Qun from a very young age and is curious about the world outside their society.
However, a rebellious Qun is very difficult to implement, since they tend to get killed if they don't obey.
So our best bet is still a Kossith who grew up outside of Qunari influence or was at least taken away at a very young age.

[Versus Omnibus]

Blackrising wrote...

It would be a challenge, yes.
If the LI were a part of the Qun, it would have to be someone who has been unsatisfied with the teachings of the Qun from a very young age and is curious about the world outside their society.
However, a rebellious Qun is very difficult to implement, since they tend to get killed if they don't obey.
So our best bet is still a Kossith who grew up outside of Qunari influence or was at least taken away at a very young age.

I honestly believe that's the only way we can get a female Kossith love interest.

[Versus Omnibus]

franciscoamell wrote...

Cerberus Commando wrote...

And don't u ignore me and lock my forum again too Mr. David Gayider. U got some redemption to do. U might as well start by giving us a sexy Qunari female companion!!!!

My thread got locked and this one didn't?<_<

If you want, there's a topic that a lot more... respectful, if you want to discuss a Kossith LI.

http://social.biowar...ndex/14192283/4

[Last Vizard]

ReggarBlane wrote...

The first things that popped into my head were the tales about guys getting their girlfriends to dress as the slave-Leia.

Then, I figured that is the solution to these demands. Get your girlfriend/wife to dress like a horned Kossith woman and have fun.

Reading alittle about male psychology and genetic behaviours, it is very benificial for couples to dress up/cosplay in the bedroom because it fools our programmed behaviours that want us to spread our genetics to many partners.... 

[Yumichika]

They can do it and they should! Not because i'll play it but it will make their fantasy world more open minded and real.

[Zerker]

dat necro

[Sir George Parr]

Its a character that would be interesting to see at some point, kind of like Bakara in ME3. But as a Li, no thanks its not something i find particularly appealing as an option. If she was to appear her response to any fraternising should just be along the lines of Aveline in DA2.