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#101
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Yajuu Omoi wrote...

KalilKareem wrote...

Kaall wrote...

I am not calling him by his name in order to avoid anymore godwin point to be awarded to this thread.

Does that pose you a problem that i have a little of decency ?

So now having decency, makes you looks like you are an idiot, that is great news.


You forgot "full point.". And seriously mate, listen to Yajuu Omoi, you are comming across as, well, shall we say "not fully mature".


There is no decency in being afraid of someone. The only one getting offended here is you.

Oh, and fyi...as far as Godwin goes...with enough time...even a chimp can write out the entire Encyclopedia Britannica


I am not decent out of fear, i am just decent out of respect.

is that immature ?

#102
Yajuu Omoi

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Kaall wrote...

Look you are the one who is asking me an insulting question and i am the one who is not mature ?

Are you sane ?


YOU took offence to a simple question.

If you were asked "So you're like Hitler?" THEN I could understand your grief. And it would be justified.
But you were not. At all.

I am quite sane, I've even been tested!! :o

You seem to lack a fundimental understanding of the Internet however...Someplace, sometime, if you are out there, you WILL find something you don't like.

Grow up and deal with it.

Modifié par Yajuu Omoi, 20 septembre 2012 - 08:06 .


#103
Yajuu Omoi

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Kaall wrote...

Yajuu Omoi wrote...

KalilKareem wrote...

Kaall wrote...

I am not calling him by his name in order to avoid anymore godwin point to be awarded to this thread.

Does that pose you a problem that i have a little of decency ?

So now having decency, makes you looks like you are an idiot, that is great news.


You forgot "full point.". And seriously mate, listen to Yajuu Omoi, you are comming across as, well, shall we say "not fully mature".


There is no decency in being afraid of someone. The only one getting offended here is you.

Oh, and fyi...as far as Godwin goes...with enough time...even a chimp can write out the entire Encyclopedia Britannica


I am not decent out of fear, i am just decent out of respect.

is that immature ?


You are not being decent.
You fear his name, so you avoid it. Understand that YOU are the only one offended by it here.

You have come to the point of Trolling.
Trolling is not mature.
Having respect would be.
So respect all of us, and realize what is going on, and stop.

Modifié par Yajuu Omoi, 20 septembre 2012 - 08:04 .


#104
pyroboy2290

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Kaall wrote...

Yajuu Omoi wrote...

KalilKareem wrote...

Kaall wrote...

I am not calling him by his name in order to avoid anymore godwin point to be awarded to this thread.

Does that pose you a problem that i have a little of decency ?

So now having decency, makes you looks like you are an idiot, that is great news.


You forgot "full point.". And seriously mate, listen to Yajuu Omoi, you are comming across as, well, shall we say "not fully mature".


There is no decency in being afraid of someone. The only one getting offended here is you.

Oh, and fyi...as far as Godwin goes...with enough time...even a chimp can write out the entire Encyclopedia Britannica


I am not decent out of fear, i am just decent out of respect.

is that immature ?

No, it's not really immature.... although you should make a note there that it's out of respect for fellow forum members, not out of respect for hitler... just so nobody gets confused.

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Sorry yajuu it was not adressed to you, but to the one who asked the question, your post just intercalled before mine.

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Yajuu Omoi

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Kaall wrote...

Sorry yajuu it was not adressed to you, but to the one who asked the question, your post just intercalled before mine.


I understand that, and I was aware of that before I commented.

I simply do not see a need for this to continue. It has already progressed too far.

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On gold, regardless of n7 rank or character level, I always play at least one match with them. If they die every 10 seconds or score 10x less than everyone else, I kick them from the next game. N7 and character level don't really tell you anything.

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Could you guys just get a room?

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yea...play with friends from the start...but for me...i didnt have any problems...no one kicked me and i am skilled fps player so..no problem...even that mass effect is over the shoulder shooter talkin about MP now

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Kicking low N7 ratings on bronze is just pointless. What else are they supposed to do?!

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Yajuu Omoi wrote...

You are not being decent.
You fear his name, so you avoid it. Understand that YOU are the only one offended by it here.

You have come to the point of Trolling.
Trolling is not mature.
Having respect would be.
So respect all of us, and realize what is going on, and stop.


Maybe i am the only one offended by it, because i am the only one targeted by the underlying question.

I am a troll ?, i say you are the troll, even medling in things that do not concern you in the fisrt place.

I was on topic as long as there was no insult toward me, if you really want to find a troll this time, maybe you should look at the one who asked this question, maybe you should ask the offender, instead of looking at the offended.

Do i respect KalilKareem ? Hell No, i am not respecting someone who asked me if i shared some ideological view with a genocidal dictator, will i insult him or her for that, no, because i am not going as low as him/her.

Do i respect you ? Hell No, You think you are a smart ass, calling people immature out of the blue like and you don't even know how to differentiate someone who has a little decency toward a sensible subject from someone who fear something.

And i will concede you that, as immature as it can be when i feel insulted, i answer back, wether you like it or not.

Modifié par Kaall, 20 septembre 2012 - 08:20 .


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Trying to put this topic back on track - kicking a Level 1 from Bronze is ridiculous. The reason for bronze is to ensure that everyone gets the change to level up without being put under any undue pressure to do so. Personally, I've never been booted from a bronze game, but I have been booted from a Gold game; by virtue of the fact that my level 5 Vanguard was continuously getting killed and had to be revived by the other players.

As regards getting booted from a Silver, Gold or Platinum game, I'm of the opinion that if a person enters a Silver, Gold or Platinum game, then kudos to him/her. They're testing their limits - seeing how they get on, irrespective of the level their character's at. Give them a chance to prove themselves. If it works out, then all's well and good, and if not, kick them. At least they'll have the opportunity to go back to bronze and get a bit more practice in.

Modifié par Roguefan, 20 septembre 2012 - 08:33 .


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Gold, I'm sorry but it is fair to kick a level one in gold. Bronze and Silver let them stay and help them level up quicker and direct them here to find their tips to help them out if they also are a low N7 level.

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 I reserve the right to kick level one characters from gold and plat. IMO you should be level 15+ to play gold and 20 to play plat.

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masleslie wrote...

A LEVEL 1 CHARACTER DOES NOT AUTOMATICALLY MEAN YOU WILL BE A LIABILITY TO YOUR SQUAD!
Sorry to shout but I just had to get that out.

I stopped promoting characters until the challenge a while back. Now i'm doing it a lot which means i'm often playing  Level 1 characters. So I drop my difficulty to bronze to compensate & look for a game. And what happens I get players i've never met before with N7's only in double figures wanting to kick me because i only have a level 1 character.

Has this happened to anyone else recently?

If you're reading this & you are tempted to kick a level 1 character check their N7 rank first (my N7 is somewhere in the 900's). It's no guarantee they are good but likelihood is a high ranked player is not going to struggle with a level 1 character because they have more experience & better weapons & equipment. I'm not the greatest gamer but i have taken level 1 characters into bronze missions with a team of characters at level 17-19 and N7's only in double figures & I came first in the end.

Besides all this how are new players supposed to get a game & get the experience they need if they keep getting kicked? I know this isn't a charity but you were all noobies with level 1 characters once.

Give level 1 characters a chance - they may surprise you.


Clarify - are you getting kicked out of Bronze lobbies because your character is level 1? Or are you getting kicked out of higher difficulty lobbies?

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Kicking lvl1 characters from bronze is full stupidity.

From silver - at least check his/her N7 ranking and his/her gear. An experienced player with lvl1 char + the right gear - usually rocks in silver. I'm not a really good player but today I started a lvl1 Shadow with a Reegar Carbine X on Silver. I was the second best player in this match. OK, my Shadow died lot's of times, but she could kill tons of enemies.

From Gold... check N7 ranking and gear. Same applies as Silver. I met awesome players who done some really serious business on Gold - with lvl1 characters. Anyway a lvl10 character is also OK for Gold.

Platinum... OK, this is a plain stupid boss horde mode. It really needs lvl15+ characters because it needs pure DPS. However I'll be not really surprised if I see a video about a lvl1 group killing stuff in Platinum. :)

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My automatic lvl. 1 kick reflex gets triggered on platinum. For PuGs especially, any character level less than 15 is going to make things -- though not impossible -- harder than it needs to be.

I don't mind lvl. 1 characters on gold most of the time, but in certain situations they will also get the boot.

#118
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only kick when i am short of time and taking fore ever otherwise dont care its supposed to be fun sorry to anybody i have kicked it can be cruel (keop call sign pc)

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hostaman wrote...

I only kick for being AWOL or for being offensive over the mic (trolling or playing music).

I don't care what your level is, what the N7 is, what weapons you have, or anything else. You're always welcome in my games.

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only when a level 1 enters a gold match do I vote to kick other than that your good in a random. If I know you and play with you on a regular basis then a level 1 on gold is not as bad.

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when I first started playin yesterday I kept gettin the boot from games :/ so I just started hosting and all was well, im just putting down to good ol nerd superiority complex.

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 From Bronze?

Seriously?

I understand that, being N7's in the double digits, they probably don't know any better and think that this nooby level 1 is going to cause the next match to be hell, but...maaaaaan.


(I also thought this was going to be another level 1 in Gold/Plat thread)

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Wow! What happened here? This was two pages yesterday. I feel like Dr Frankenstein - i've created a monster.

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brian_breed wrote...

masleslie wrote...

A LEVEL 1 CHARACTER DOES NOT AUTOMATICALLY MEAN YOU WILL BE A LIABILITY TO YOUR SQUAD!
Sorry to shout but I just had to get that out.

I stopped promoting characters until the challenge a while back. Now i'm doing it a lot which means i'm often playing  Level 1 characters. So I drop my difficulty to bronze to compensate & look for a game. And what happens I get players i've never met before with N7's only in double figures wanting to kick me because i only have a level 1 character.

Has this happened to anyone else recently?

If you're reading this & you are tempted to kick a level 1 character check their N7 rank first (my N7 is somewhere in the 900's). It's no guarantee they are good but likelihood is a high ranked player is not going to struggle with a level 1 character because they have more experience & better weapons & equipment. I'm not the greatest gamer but i have taken level 1 characters into bronze missions with a team of characters at level 17-19 and N7's only in double figures & I came first in the end.

Besides all this how are new players supposed to get a game & get the experience they need if they keep getting kicked? I know this isn't a charity but you were all noobies with level 1 characters once.

Give level 1 characters a chance - they may surprise you.


Clarify - are you getting kicked out of Bronze lobbies because your character is level 1? Or are you getting kicked out of higher difficulty lobbies?




Yep it was bronze. Although the jury now seems to be out on whether it was because of the level 1 character or because they were intimidated by an N7 900 above theirs. However it happend to me a couple ot times in similar groups and they also kicked another level 1 character who was nearer their own N7s so i'd guess it was the level1 that did it. Maybe i'll be hosting more for Operation Patriot - see you all there.

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Why don't you just buy some Recruit Packs? This way you'll get the Level 1 character pretty fast to at least Level 5.

I don't like to play power dependent classes on Level 1. Not because I couldn't survive a Gold Game with them. I did that more than once. But it's just booooooring. The fun with Mass Effect is to have those different powers at your service. But a Fury or a Vanguard at Level 1 is just not fun. I can stay in safe distance and cover with many other characters, but when I choose these guys, I wanna be in the front and killing stuff the way those clases were designed for.

Anyhow, kicking someone from a Bronze Lobby, because he uses a Level 1 character is just plain stupid. That's what Bronze is for. Everybody started at some Point with an N7 Rank of 1. How would you ever get a chance to level up, if you'd get kicked from Bronze every time?

Besides, this video clearly demonstrates that you can even rock Platinum with four Level 1 characters using only common weapons:
http://social.biowar...ndex/13866967/1

So the ability of the player is by far more important than class, loadout and Level combined.

Modifié par Tronar, 21 septembre 2012 - 09:41 .