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[FasterThanFTL]

Razerath wrote...

FasterThanFTL wrote...

The reason is simple 90% of the ultra hardcore players are on PC. Looking at your videos the console versions platinum is a mix of PC's Gold enemies and console versions Gold is PC's silver enemies and PC's platinum if it was on consoles would be called Diamond for consoles. If you don't believe this try playing the PC platinum with an Xbox 360 controller. The games on PC are much faster the enemies move faster, we can move faster, the enemies are more accurate, we are more accurate. Everything is more intense and we are trained to be better at the game than the console gamers. You will be considered a knowledgeable noob if you played on PC and would struggle for a few days as you adjust to a higher difficulty.

Lol... not quite.

How about you try to play the PC version with me with a 360 controller and try to get 25% of my score on Gold or Platinum. I will leave gaming forever. I will even use any character you choose.

[darkpassenger2342]

FasterThanFTL wrote...

Razerath wrote...

FasterThanFTL wrote...

The reason is simple 90% of the ultra hardcore players are on PC. Looking at your videos the console versions platinum is a mix of PC's Gold enemies and console versions Gold is PC's silver enemies and PC's platinum if it was on consoles would be called Diamond for consoles. If you don't believe this try playing the PC platinum with an Xbox 360 controller. The games on PC are much faster the enemies move faster, we can move faster, the enemies are more accurate, we are more accurate. Everything is more intense and we are trained to be better at the game than the console gamers. You will be considered a knowledgeable noob if you played on PC and would struggle for a few days as you adjust to a higher difficulty.

Lol... not quite.

How about you try to play the PC version with me with a 360 controller and try to get 25% of my score on Gold or Platinum. I will leave gaming forever. I will even use any character you choose.

 i wish i could assault you with my xbox. Pow, right in the kisser.

Modifié par darkpassenger2342, 19 septembre 2012 - 11:12 .

[Razerath]

FasterThanFTL wrote...

Razerath wrote...

FasterThanFTL wrote...

The reason is simple 90% of the ultra hardcore players are on PC. Looking at your videos the console versions platinum is a mix of PC's Gold enemies and console versions Gold is PC's silver enemies and PC's platinum if it was on consoles would be called Diamond for consoles. If you don't believe this try playing the PC platinum with an Xbox 360 controller. The games on PC are much faster the enemies move faster, we can move faster, the enemies are more accurate, we are more accurate. Everything is more intense and we are trained to be better at the game than the console gamers. You will be considered a knowledgeable noob if you played on PC and would struggle for a few days as you adjust to a higher difficulty.

Lol... not quite.

How about you try to play the PC version with me with a 360 controller and try to get 25% of my score on Gold or Platinum. I will leave gaming forever. I will even use any character you choose.

If that could happen, you'd eat your words. I promise.

[Zorinho20_CRO]

Nevermind

Modifié par zorinho20, 19 septembre 2012 - 11:20 .

[Machazareel]

It mostly comes down to the controls. As with any shooter, having a mouse allows for faster and more accurate aiming, plus we don't have to deal with auto-aim quirks like launching powers and such at swarmers.

[FasterThanFTL]

Razerath wrote...

FasterThanFTL wrote...

Razerath wrote...

FasterThanFTL wrote...

The reason is simple 90% of the ultra hardcore players are on PC. Looking at your videos the console versions platinum is a mix of PC's Gold enemies and console versions Gold is PC's silver enemies and PC's platinum if it was on consoles would be called Diamond for consoles. If you don't believe this try playing the PC platinum with an Xbox 360 controller. The games on PC are much faster the enemies move faster, we can move faster, the enemies are more accurate, we are more accurate. Everything is more intense and we are trained to be better at the game than the console gamers. You will be considered a knowledgeable noob if you played on PC and would struggle for a few days as you adjust to a higher difficulty.

Lol... not quite.

How about you try to play the PC version with me with a 360 controller and try to get 25% of my score on Gold or Platinum. I will leave gaming forever. I will even use any character you choose.

If that could happen, you'd eat your words. I promise.

I even know more about the game than you its not only about the controls. I am much more skilled and experienced at this game than you can hope to be.

[darkpassenger2342]

FasterThanFTL wrote...

Razerath wrote...

FasterThanFTL wrote...

Razerath wrote...

FasterThanFTL wrote...

The reason is simple 90% of the ultra hardcore players are on PC. Looking at your videos the console versions platinum is a mix of PC's Gold enemies and console versions Gold is PC's silver enemies and PC's platinum if it was on consoles would be called Diamond for consoles. If you don't believe this try playing the PC platinum with an Xbox 360 controller. The games on PC are much faster the enemies move faster, we can move faster, the enemies are more accurate, we are more accurate. Everything is more intense and we are trained to be better at the game than the console gamers. You will be considered a knowledgeable noob if you played on PC and would struggle for a few days as you adjust to a higher difficulty.

Lol... not quite.

How about you try to play the PC version with me with a 360 controller and try to get 25% of my score on Gold or Platinum. I will leave gaming forever. I will even use any character you choose.

If that could happen, you'd eat your words. I promise.

I even know more about the game than you its not only about the controls. I am much more skilled and experienced at this game than you can hope to be.

you should throw yourself a parade.

[cgj]

Mister FasterthanFTL

thank you sir, i had a good laugh

[Razerath]

FasterThanFTL wrote...

Razerath wrote...

FasterThanFTL wrote...

Razerath wrote...

FasterThanFTL wrote...

The reason is simple 90% of the ultra hardcore players are on PC. Looking at your videos the console versions platinum is a mix of PC's Gold enemies and console versions Gold is PC's silver enemies and PC's platinum if it was on consoles would be called Diamond for consoles. If you don't believe this try playing the PC platinum with an Xbox 360 controller. The games on PC are much faster the enemies move faster, we can move faster, the enemies are more accurate, we are more accurate. Everything is more intense and we are trained to be better at the game than the console gamers. You will be considered a knowledgeable noob if you played on PC and would struggle for a few days as you adjust to a higher difficulty.

Lol... not quite.

How about you try to play the PC version with me with a 360 controller and try to get 25% of my score on Gold or Platinum. I will leave gaming forever. I will even use any character you choose.

If that could happen, you'd eat your words. I promise.

I even know more about the game than you its not only about the controls. I am much more skilled and experienced at this game than you can hope to be.

Prove it.

Post up your best time, on any map, on Gold. Or are you only talking about soloing?

[FasterThanFTL]

Razerath wrote...

FasterThanFTL wrote...

Razerath wrote...

FasterThanFTL wrote...

Razerath wrote...

FasterThanFTL wrote...

The reason is simple 90% of the ultra hardcore players are on PC. Looking at your videos the console versions platinum is a mix of PC's Gold enemies and console versions Gold is PC's silver enemies and PC's platinum if it was on consoles would be called Diamond for consoles. If you don't believe this try playing the PC platinum with an Xbox 360 controller. The games on PC are much faster the enemies move faster, we can move faster, the enemies are more accurate, we are more accurate. Everything is more intense and we are trained to be better at the game than the console gamers. You will be considered a knowledgeable noob if you played on PC and would struggle for a few days as you adjust to a higher difficulty.

Lol... not quite.

How about you try to play the PC version with me with a 360 controller and try to get 25% of my score on Gold or Platinum. I will leave gaming forever. I will even use any character you choose.

If that could happen, you'd eat your words. I promise.

I even know more about the game than you its not only about the controls. I am much more skilled and experienced at this game than you can hope to be.

Prove it.

Post up your best time, on any map, on Gold. Or are you only talking about soloing?

I mostly play Platinums with randoms so I am talking about you scoring 25% of the score I achieve in that match. For example if I get 200,000 you have to get 50,000 or more.  But we will be playing Platinum on PC and I will be playing with mouse/keyboard and you will be playing with an xbox 360 controller. I will not be reviving you and no rockets will be allowed for both.

[GallowsPole]

I'll never trust anything put out by pc gamers who have the ability to easily mod their files. I used to game on pc before half of you were thought up by your fathers, so don't call me console fanboy.

That is all.

[Razerath]

FTL, score hardly matters. I'm still not quite sure in which way you believe it does. If you want to prove to me that you are good in the slightest, post a sub 12 minute run on Goddess. Use the best PC players you can find?

Good luck.

[Zorinho20_CRO]

GallowsPole wrote...

I'll never trust anything put out by pc gamers who have the ability to easily mod their files. I used to game on pc before half of you were thought up by your fathers, so don't call me console fanboy.

That is all.

I´m PC player and I´m also veteran gamer(I have to "fight" with kid for comp,lol),but you imply to much.

[Caineghis2500]

100RenegadePoints wrote...

Sorry, I have written a reply, but then I read only ELITE PC PLAYERS... I then deleted my post, again sorry for the inconvenience

caineghis2500 wrote...
Everyone's opinion is encouraged but I really wanna hear from ELITE PC PLAYERS...

b4 that i wrote "every opinion is encouraged"

[FasterThanFTL]

Razerath wrote...

FTL, score hardly matters. I'm still not quite sure in which way you believe it does. If you want to prove to me that you are good in the slightest, post a sub 12 minute run on Goddess. Use the best PC players you can find?

Good luck.

What I am saying you console ME3 experts would not even survive platinum on your first trys on PC playing with a 360 controller. Anyone who can do a Platinum solo on PC with a 360 controller I will declare him god of this game. The ME3 on PC is much harder which is all I am saying and the PC gamers are trained at a higher difficulty of ME3 and as a result are much better overall and combine that with years and years of fast paced hardcore shooter experience and you have a recipe for the most skilled players on the planet who can set amazing times even with a higher difficulty PC version.

[Razerath]

FasterThanFTL wrote...

Razerath wrote...

FTL, score hardly matters. I'm still not quite sure in which way you believe it does. If you want to prove to me that you are good in the slightest, post a sub 12 minute run on Goddess. Use the best PC players you can find?

Good luck.

What I am saying you console ME3 experts would not even survive platinum on your first trys on PC playing with a 360 controller. Anyone who can do a Platinum solo on PC with a 360 controller I will declare him god of this game. The ME3 on PC is much harder which is all I am saying and the PC gamers are trained at a higher difficulty of ME3 and as a result are much better overall and combine that with years and years of fast paced hardcore shooter experience and you have a recipe for the most skilled players on the planet who can set amazing times even with a higher difficulty PC version.

I am very familiar with PC gaming and first person shooters. Roots man, roots. I've also seen ME3 MP played on PC and to be honest, it wasn't quite as you describe. No matter how "crisp" it can get, good tactics are good tactics.

In a roundabout way are you saying that playing on console is easier? That is just not true if that is what you are saying. Your turning speed witchcraft, faster loading times and not-so-laggy/glitchy ( better frame rate ) matches are a much better advantage than Xbox's auto-swarmer-kill, lame camera and damn heavy servers.

[MaxShine]

Razerath wrote...

FTL, score hardly matters. I'm still not quite sure in which way you believe it does. If you want to prove to me that you are good in the slightest, post a sub 12 minute run on Goddess. Use the best PC players you can find?

Good luck.

Also this is not really an indication of skill. From my point of view a good indication of skill is a Gold solo vs Cerberus or Reapers using only one rocket before wave 10 (no spawn nuking). Use a common soldier and choose a map where spawn nuking with grenades is hard to do.

[GallowsPole]

zorinho20 wrote...

GallowsPole wrote...

I'll never trust anything put out by pc gamers who have the ability to easily mod their files. I used to game on pc before half of you were thought up by your fathers, so don't call me console fanboy.

That is all.

I´m PC player and I´m also veteran gamer(I have to "fight" with kid for comp,lol),but you imply to much.

I don't mean to imply anything. Just that, in my time as a gamer, and up until December when, due to medical reasons I had leave my IT position, I've seen and worked on quite a lot to know better. I would hope that there are still people out there, like myself, that doesn't cheat. I don't even look up cheat codes or read walkthroughs. If I can't figure it out, I put it aside, try again later.

[Xaijin]

caineghis2500 wrote...

I have nothing against pc players at all I think they're awesome. (glad that's out of the way)

AHEM!!

I hate it when me and INVADERONE'S videos get compared to pc players videos. There is always some troll that's more than happy to reply with a platinum solo/duo of a pc team shattering our time.. WTF!?!?!?

In my opinion, the 2 can't compare. There is different mechanics, and different set of skills. I can go on and on about this....

My point is... Why are most (90%) of the awesome platinum solo/duos being owned by the pc community? The other (10%) like me, INVADERONE and very few others on console doing anything great.

Is there really a difference? Maybe Im just a noob complaining or maybe PC is easier.

Everyone's opinion is encouraged but I really wanna hear from ELITE PC PLAYERS...

yes, there's a difference. People whom bought the PC version tend to be more passionate and more likely to put more time in. Casual means just that: Casual. You'll find more casual players on the consoles, and thus while you'll have a larger playerbase, it will also skew different in terms of representative skill. As someone whom owns all the consoles as well as a pc, there is a distinct difference in community zeitgeist for this game, dependent on the platform chosen.

Additionally, there is skewing on the Ai and difficulty. The PC version is distinctly harder, and I know this because I've played all three versions. Players whom are capable of beating the platinum mode on PC have a distinct skillset, hence the more dramatic representation.

Modifié par Xaijin, 19 septembre 2012 - 11:56 .

[A MIAOW]

The truth is PC user is much more free to make videos.

Console players are lazy to move from sofas. Most console players are silent.

[Razerath]

100RenegadePoints wrote...

Razerath wrote...

FTL, score hardly matters. I'm still not quite sure in which way you believe it does. If you want to prove to me that you are good in the slightest, post a sub 12 minute run on Goddess. Use the best PC players you can find?

Good luck.

Also this is not really an indication of skill. From my point of view a good indication of skill is a Gold solo vs Cerberus or Reapers using only one rocket before wave 10 (no spawn nuking). Use a common soldier and choose a map where spawn nuking with grenades is hard to do.

Both are indicators of skill. The objectives to a solo match and a team match are slightly different as are the mechanics of spawn controlling and equipment use.

I can't see the same solo superstars who manage 18:00 or below aslo being able to break the 11 or 12 minute mark on most maps ( not Glacier ). I'm sure the soloer would come close with his/her team ( possibly of 3 more "soloers" ) and likewise I bet each member of the "super team" would be able to manage at least a 20 minute solo.

Both soloing and extreme team matches breed the same skills to be used differently. In the end, good players are good players. For me, I spend most of my time in four person games and not soloing. The best players in the game are the ones who can compete at the highest levels of both soloing and team games.

[FasterThanFTL]

Razerath wrote...

FasterThanFTL wrote...

Razerath wrote...

FTL, score hardly matters. I'm still not quite sure in which way you believe it does. If you want to prove to me that you are good in the slightest, post a sub 12 minute run on Goddess. Use the best PC players you can find?

Good luck.

What I am saying you console ME3 experts would not even survive platinum on your first trys on PC playing with a 360 controller. Anyone who can do a Platinum solo on PC with a 360 controller I will declare him god of this game. The ME3 on PC is much harder which is all I am saying and the PC gamers are trained at a higher difficulty of ME3 and as a result are much better overall and combine that with years and years of fast paced hardcore shooter experience and you have a recipe for the most skilled players on the planet who can set amazing times even with a higher difficulty PC version.

I am very familiar with PC gaming and first person shooters. Roots man, roots. I've also seen ME3 MP played on PC and to be honest, it wasn't quite as you describe. No matter how "crisp" it can get, good tactics are good tactics.

In a roundabout way are you saying that playing on console is easier? That is just not true if that is what you are saying. Your turning speed witchcraft, faster loading times and not-so-laggy/glitchy ( better frame rate ) matches are a much better advantage than Xbox's auto-swarmer-kill, lame camera and damn heavy servers.

What I am saying you Xbox 360 elite gamers should give the PC version a try with a 360 controller and then u will understand what I am saying. I never said playing the 360 version was easy I said the PC version is much harder to play with a 360 controller than it is to play the 360 version with a 360 controller. Sorry for not being clear enough. PC version is programmed to be much harder so that the PC controls do not destroy the AI easily. Do you understand, Bioware made the PC version harder so that we felt equally challenged as the console gamers with their limited controls.

[Kenadian]

Razerath wrote...

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

Razerath wrote...

Xbox is too busy owning 4 Man runs, for the most part.

We shall bring our trophy back!

...

One day...

Hopefully... 

We shall see! Condor is just the beginning

You suckers are brave, and ridiculous. Condor? Speedrun? 12 minutes flat? Don't want to even try such an unpleasant endeavour.

[Razerath]

Kenadian wrote...

Razerath wrote...

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

Razerath wrote...

Xbox is too busy owning 4 Man runs, for the most part.

We shall bring our trophy back!

...

One day...

Hopefully... 

We shall see! Condor is just the beginning

You suckers are brave, and ridiculous. Condor? Speedrun? 12 minutes flat? Don't want to even try such an unpleasant endeavour.

You forgot only Turians

[Razerath]

FasterThanFTL wrote...

Razerath wrote...

FasterThanFTL wrote...

Razerath wrote...

FTL, score hardly matters. I'm still not quite sure in which way you believe it does. If you want to prove to me that you are good in the slightest, post a sub 12 minute run on Goddess. Use the best PC players you can find?

Good luck.

What I am saying you console ME3 experts would not even survive platinum on your first trys on PC playing with a 360 controller. Anyone who can do a Platinum solo on PC with a 360 controller I will declare him god of this game. The ME3 on PC is much harder which is all I am saying and the PC gamers are trained at a higher difficulty of ME3 and as a result are much better overall and combine that with years and years of fast paced hardcore shooter experience and you have a recipe for the most skilled players on the planet who can set amazing times even with a higher difficulty PC version.

I am very familiar with PC gaming and first person shooters. Roots man, roots. I've also seen ME3 MP played on PC and to be honest, it wasn't quite as you describe. No matter how "crisp" it can get, good tactics are good tactics.

In a roundabout way are you saying that playing on console is easier? That is just not true if that is what you are saying. Your turning speed witchcraft, faster loading times and not-so-laggy/glitchy ( better frame rate ) matches are a much better advantage than Xbox's auto-swarmer-kill, lame camera and damn heavy servers.

What I am saying you Xbox 360 elite gamers should give the PC version a try with a 360 controller and then u will understand what I am saying. I never said playing the 360 version was easy I said the PC version is much harder to play with a 360 controller than it is to play the 360 version with a 360 controller. Sorry for not being clear enough. PC version is programmed to be much harder so that the PC controls do not destroy the AI easily. Do you understand, Bioware made the PC version harder so that we felt equally challenged as the console gamers with their limited controls.

You're serious? Is this an actual thing? I don't believe it at all.