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[Binary_Helix 1]

IsaacShep wrote...

Binary_Helix 1 wrote...

They'd all be easily replaced by men

How? We would clone men? There's no infinite number of men on the planet and the economy is built on its labour force that needs enough employees to function

Most women work in human resources, retail, marketing, fashion, social work, and various other non-critical functions.

Modifié par Binary_Helix 1, 20 septembre 2012 - 02:03 .

[hpjay]

Binary_Helix 1 wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

Did all that racism & sexism make you lose the ability to think
logically? Check the number of female employees in world economies and then figure out what would happen if that many employees suddenly stopped working tomorrow. Once again, you're just embarassing yourself at this point

They'd all be easily replaced by men because we've already seen a world without a large female employment presence. 

Women from the working class were always part of the workforce.  Lots of factory jobs in textiles were predominately women.  Lets not forget the ILGWU or the Bread and roses strike in Lawrence Mass which was lead predominately by women.The picture of non-working middle class women in the 50's and 60's is something of an anomolly.  You are looking at the world in decidedly rose colored glasses from 1950.

[AllegedVixEo]

Binary_Helix 1 wrote...

AllegedVixEo wrote...

*sigh*

Don't act cute cupcake. I didn't miss your Nancy Grace joke. Given the totality of my posts I've expressed myself well.

I was a liberal once too. I know exactly the mindset that goes into that type of thinking; egalitarianism and social posturing.

I guess what I want to know is what are you so afraid of, and why do you resent women so much? 

This didn't have to be such a political discussion about "leftism" or "rightism" until you started calling people out on your perception of their political orientation.  And while we are at it, what is so wrong about social programs that promote equality?  You get just as much "social posturing" , if not more, from a society that lacks empathy for the disadvantaged and believes in levels of social "superiority" through conquest.  

Fortunately, women are not inherently disadvantaged like people who are born into generational poverty.  Women are just attacked by people who can't handle the idea of women holding an equal position in society to men.  SO why do you feel that way?  No one on this thread is calling for an egalitarianist society.  No one here is calling for anything except civil rights.  Our country has a long history of acknowledging it's mistakes with regards to civil rights and the position of women in this country is no different.  There will be more and more equality in my lifetime with regards to pay, healthcare services for women and many other aspects of the subject that need reform.  If we can't reform things we cannot move forward and evolve.

ALSO, during WW2 women proved that men could leave the workforce and women could do their jobs equally well, many of which consisted of working munitions factories and not cushy desks with AC.  Lots of evidence supports this.  Not a lot of evidence to support that men would do equally well if all of a sudden all women left the workforce and their jobs were filled by men, not to say that they wouldn't do a fine job, but before you go ripping on what women can and cannot do maybe you should check your facts.

[Clayless]

While I don't really care about this thread, I only skimmed it (it appears to be about oppressed white males in first world countries) I did notice this:

Binary_Helix 1 wrote...

Just calling it like it like I see it. A nice little liberal like you doesn't want that because it goes against all you believe.

I've always wondered, why do Americans use the word "liberal" like it's a sort of insult? It gives the impression that you define yourself by a "team", and the "liberals" are on the other side. Like a sort of competition, which is incredibly unhealthy and frankly quite dangerous when it comes to politics.

It's like you're alienating yourself from anything that might be "liberal", not because you don't agree with it, but because it's against your team. When it comes to politics you should vote for who you agree with the most, not just pick a team and stick with it.

[shepskisaac]

Binary_Helix 1 wrote...

Most women work in human resources, retail, marketing, fashion, social work, and various other non-critical functions.

lolhttp://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/6630eff525d4cdc1ca25763e0075754f/4bd05e7b7aba7342ca257a4700128f24/Body/0.8232%21OpenElement&FieldElemFormat=gif

Yeah, let's drop all these women, especially from health care and lets see how it goes. You're an idiot

[Hey]

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

While I don't really care about this thread, I only skimmed it (it appears to be about oppressed white males in first world countries) I did notice this:

Binary_Helix 1 wrote...

Just calling it like it like I see it. A nice little liberal like you doesn't want that because it goes against all you believe.

why do Americans use the word "liberal" like it's a sort of insult?

dont shove me in your box, yo!

[AllegedVixEo]

Binary_Helix 1 wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

Binary_Helix 1 wrote...

They'd all be easily replaced by men

How? We would clone men? There's no infinite number of men on the planet and the economy is built on its labour force that needs enough employees to function

Most women work in human resources, retail, marketing, fashion, social work, and various other non-critical functions.

I am going to play into your totally bias and unsubstantiated comment for a second, and ask what would you consider a critical function then?  

To me social work is pretty damn important, human resources is necessary to run a business, you didn't name education but also a profession predominently occupied by women, and equally critical to social work.  
Human Resources is necessary to run a business (and may I add in the private sector a percentage of people in human resources are labor attorneys).  Marketing is the back bone of allowing businesses to thrive, which in turn, supports a healthy economy.  ALL of these jobs are important in their own right.

[Binary_Helix 1]

AllegedVixEo wrote...

Binary_Helix 1 wrote...

AllegedVixEo wrote...

*sigh*

Don't act cute cupcake. I didn't miss your Nancy Grace joke. Given the totality of my posts I've expressed myself well.

I was a liberal once too. I know exactly the mindset that goes into that type of thinking; egalitarianism and social posturing.

I guess what I want to know is what are you so afraid of, and why do you resent women so much? 

This didn't have to be such a political discussion about "leftism" or "rightism" until you started calling people out on your perception of their political orientation.  And while we are at it, what is so wrong about social programs that promote equality?  You get just as much "social posturing" , if not more, from a society that lacks empathy for the disadvantaged and believes in levels of social "superiority" through conquest.  

Fortunately, women are not inherently disadvantaged like people who are born into generational poverty.  Women are just attacked by people who can't handle the idea of women holding an equal position in society to men.  SO why do you feel that way?  No one on this thread is calling for an egalitarianist society.  No one here is calling for anything except civil rights.  Our country has a long history of acknowledging it's mistakes with regards to civil rights and the position of women in this country is no different.  There will be more and more equality in my lifetime with regards to pay, healthcare services for women and many other aspects of the subject that need reform.  If we can't reform things we cannot move forward and evolve.

ALSO, during WW2 women proved that men could leave the workforce and women could do their jobs equally well, many of which consisted of working munitions factories and not cushy desks with AC.  Lots of evidence supports this.  Not a lot of evidence to support that men would do equally well if all of a sudden all women left the workforce and their jobs were filled by men, not to say that they wouldn't do a fine job, but before you go ripping on what women can and cannot do maybe you should check your facts.

Basically your liberal utopia is depdent on taxing men to pay for women's lifestyle choices like contraception, abortion, and single motherhood support. Even when women are successful it's driven in large part due to the strong presence of their fathers. This whole women are empowered crap is a lie. Look at the ghetto and other female dominated societies. Hellish.

Modifié par Binary_Helix 1, 20 septembre 2012 - 02:18 .

[JamieCOTC]

Good for you, OP. Nice to know you can learn many things by gaming.

as to the rest ...

The war of the sexes ended 40* years ago people. It was a tie. Move on.

[Clayless]

Binary_Helix 1 wrote...

Basically your liberal utopia is depdent on taxing men to pay for women's lifestyle choices like.. single motherhood support.

This is the weirdest thing I have ever read.

Did I stumble into a troll thread? 

[chuckles471]

Lefties think people on the right are dicks.

Righties think people on the left are dicks.

When will they ever learn....

[Binary_Helix 1]

IsaacShep wrote...

Yeah, let's drop all these women, especially from health care and lets see how it goes. You're an idiot

The majority of doctors, surgeons, specialists, and other vital people are men. Women are mostly nurses and support staff.

Try again.

Modifié par Binary_Helix 1, 20 septembre 2012 - 02:27 .

[Binary_Helix 1]

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

Binary_Helix 1 wrote...

Basically your liberal utopia is depdent on taxing men to pay for women's lifestyle choices like.. single motherhood support.

This is the weirdest thing I have ever read.

Did I stumble into a troll thread? 

You're not from the USA. Here Maria and Shaniqua are popping out ten kids from ten different baby daddies all on benefits.

Modifié par Binary_Helix 1, 20 septembre 2012 - 02:30 .

[shepskisaac]

Binary_Helix 1 wrote...

The majority of doctors, surgeons, specialists, and other vital people are men. Women are mostly nurses and support staff.

Try again.

I don't have to try again. The number of female employees, including those in key sectors and yes that includes health care too AND in key position, is simply too big in modern world for economy not to collapse. Ask any economist. You're just trying to save your racist, sexist ass so desperately you will even defy logic lol

Binary_Helix 1 wrote...

You're not from the USA. Here Maria and Shaniqua are popping out ten kids from ten different baby daddies all on benefits.

I don't know if you had it in elementary school yet, but it takes 2 to make a baby

Modifié par IsaacShep, 20 septembre 2012 - 02:34 .

[AllegedVixEo]

Binary_Helix 1 wrote...

AllegedVixEo wrote...

Binary_Helix 1 wrote...

AllegedVixEo wrote...

*sigh*

Don't act cute cupcake. I didn't miss your Nancy Grace joke. Given the totality of my posts I've expressed myself well.

I was a liberal once too. I know exactly the mindset that goes into that type of thinking; egalitarianism and social posturing.

I guess what I want to know is what are you so afraid of, and why do you resent women so much? 

This didn't have to be such a political discussion about "leftism" or "rightism" until you started calling people out on your perception of their political orientation.  And while we are at it, what is so wrong about social programs that promote equality?  You get just as much "social posturing" , if not more, from a society that lacks empathy for the disadvantaged and believes in levels of social "superiority" through conquest.  

Fortunately, women are not inherently disadvantaged like people who are born into generational poverty.  Women are just attacked by people who can't handle the idea of women holding an equal position in society to men.  SO why do you feel that way?  No one on this thread is calling for an egalitarianist society.  No one here is calling for anything except civil rights.  Our country has a long history of acknowledging it's mistakes with regards to civil rights and the position of women in this country is no different.  There will be more and more equality in my lifetime with regards to pay, healthcare services for women and many other aspects of the subject that need reform.  If we can't reform things we cannot move forward and evolve.

ALSO, during WW2 women proved that men could leave the workforce and women could do their jobs equally well, many of which consisted of working munitions factories and not cushy desks with AC.  Lots of evidence supports this.  Not a lot of evidence to support that men would do equally well if all of a sudden all women left the workforce and their jobs were filled by men, not to say that they wouldn't do a fine job, but before you go ripping on what women can and cannot do maybe you should check your facts.

Basically your liberal utopia is depdent on taxing men to pay for women's lifestyle choices like contraception, abortion, and single motherhood support. Even when women are successful it's driven in large part due to the strong presence of their fathers. This whole women are empowered crap is a lie. Look at the ghetto and other female dominated societies. Hellish.

You do know that you are wrong, right?  I pay taxes, I deserve to be able to fair treatment in healthcare when it comes to decisions about my body.  Congress recently tried to pass the "Let Women Die" law but I think Obama put the kabash on it.  This law stated that abortions would not be performed at certain hospitals, even if the woman's life was immediately at stake, and that the hospital was in by no means obligated to transfer the patient to another institution where she could receive the care THAT COULD SAVE HER LIFE.  That is what is hellish and disgusting.  What if it was your daughter?

To boot, if contraceptives were covered under all health plans, then you wouldn't have as many single mothers to turn your nose up at in the grocery store.  I don't know how you can sleep at night with such a complex, you do realize that it takes two people to make a baby, right?  It's not like these abhoring women that you so disdain just summon the baby stork to drop one off so they can get a bigger welfare check.  Men, who choose to take no responsibility for there actions and who get away with it because of people like you who placate them, help to create single mothers and bastard children too.  And what about the single mother's who's husbands die, say, defending our country?  Are they not deserving of some kind of help them and there baby, while they look for a job and adjust to their new life, or do you have no compassion for these people either?

Lastly, you can't seriously pin the generational poverty that we find in the ghettos and slums on women, that is a product of society.  A society that is biggoted against women and various races, a society who believes that certain groups of people have social superiority, and a society that creates ineffective social programs due to a lack of funding, empathy, vision and the above mentioned biggotry.  A society that you seem to fit pretty well in, but don't be surprised when many of us scream from the roof tops because this is not my society.  I pay my taxes, I am a home owner, I pay for all of my insurance, I work and I have just as much say as much right as anyone else to be treated fairly.  Case and point.

Modifié par AllegedVixEo, 20 septembre 2012 - 02:41 .

[Hudathan]

I guess all men are just hard working members of society struggling to support the entire passive female population, unemployed immigrants, and old people right?



The women in my life are teachers, lawyers, medical experts, scientists, and much more. I guess I'm just a special case.

[Clayless]

Binary_Helix 1 wrote...

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

Binary_Helix 1 wrote...

Basically your liberal utopia is depdent on taxing men to pay for women's lifestyle choices like.. single motherhood support.

This is the weirdest thing I have ever read.

Did I stumble into a troll thread? 

You're not from the USA. Here Maria and Shaniqua are popping out ten kids from ten different baby daddies all on benefits.

Though I do have an American dad who, after a few years of marriage, decided it would be best to leave his wife, 2 daughters and son ranging from a few months old to 7, and never see them again nor make any attempts to see if they're alive or dead.

I just never realised some people think that's a womans choice, or consider it bad to help single parents and small children. It's so bizzare.

[Binary_Helix 1]

IsaacShep wrote...
I don't have to try again. The number of female employees, including those in key sectors and yes that includes health care too AND in key position, is simply too big in modern world for economy not to collapse. Ask any economist. You're just trying to save your racist, sexist ass so desperately you will even defy logic lol

Your sorry ass has tried and tried again to outwit me, smear me, call me names, and you've failed. I'm unfazed.

IsaacShep wrote...I don't know if you had it in elementary school yet, but it takes 2 to make a baby

Women are the sexual selectors nowadays. They have all the power in the mating game. A woman can choose to have a baby even if the man doesn't want to and collect child support payments forever but suddenly it takes two to tango now?

Sorry but you're a vile hetro man hating drag queen Issac. No other way to put it. A true rainbow coalition commando.

Modifié par Binary_Helix 1, 20 septembre 2012 - 03:11 .

[shepskisaac]

One of the biggest idiots I've ever came across

[Binary_Helix 1]

AllegedVixEo wrote...


You do know that you are wrong, right?  I pay taxes, I deserve to be able to fair treatment in healthcare when it comes to decisions about my body.  Congress recently tried to pass the "Let Women Die" law but I think Obama put the kabash on it.  This law stated that abortions would not be performed at certain hospitals, even if the woman's life was immediately at stake, and that the hospital was in by no means obligated to transfer the patient to another institution where she could receive the care THAT COULD SAVE HER LIFE.  That is what is hellish and disgusting.  What if it was your daughter?

To boot, if contraceptives were covered under all health plans, then you wouldn't have as many single mothers to turn your nose up at in the grocery store.  I don't know how you can sleep at night with such a complex, you do realize that it takes two people to make a baby, right?  It's not like these abhoring women that you so disdain just summon the baby stork to drop one off so they can get a bigger welfare check.  Men, who choose to take no responsibility for there actions and who get away with it because of people like you who placate them, help to create single mothers and bastard children too.  And what about the single mother's who's husbands die, say, defending our country?  Are they not deserving of some kind of help them and there baby, while they look for a job and adjust to their new life, or do you have no compassion for these people either?

Lastly, you can't seriously pin the generational poverty that we find in the ghettos and slums on women, that is a product of society.  A society that is biggoted against women and various races, a society who believes that certain groups of people have social superiority, and a society that creates ineffective social programs due to a lack of funding, empathy, vision and the above mentioned biggotry.  A society that you seem to fit pretty well in, but don't be surprised when many of us scream from the roof tops because this is not my society.  I pay my taxes, I am a home owner, I pay for all of my insurance, I work and I have just as much say as much right as anyone else to be treated fairly.  Case and point.

Religious hospitals opposed to abortion have every right to deny providing one. You don't like it go somewhere else.

Contraception is already cheap and widely available. If you can't afford condoms or birth control you shouldn't be screwing.

I can tell you live nowhere near the ghetto. Only someone like that can have such a positive spin on the vile and disgusting people that reside there. A poverty entirely self made due to lack of values not because of racism or some other drivel.

Modifié par Binary_Helix 1, 20 septembre 2012 - 02:56 .

[Hudathan]

IssacShep posts numbers to properly reinforce an argument that doesn't even need to be made, Binary _Helix ignores said evidence and turns it into a personal issue. I think we can safely leave this one to the court of public opinion.

[Clayless]

Ok, I think I'm getting roped into a troll thread.

Done.

[Binary_Helix 1]

IsaacShep wrote...

One of the biggest idiots I've ever came across

Why are you so butt hurt? Did you just get done playing pitcher and catcher?

[GreyLycanTrope]

The misogyny is still going strong I see