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[JeffZero]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

Problem not, fellow Organthetic.

Xenharmonic wrote...

Fuuu
The Canon ending is destroy.
Deal with it.

There is no canon ending at this time.

Get over it.

Organthetic, lol I dislike synthesis, but this made me lol. You and Ieldra2 are shining examples that Synthesis lovers don't have to be dicks to people that don't agree with them.

Lol, well thank you. 

[The Twilight God]

Give the save system in ME1- 3 it is obvious that no saves will be tranferred. No saved = no ending tranferred. So they either pick an ending; destroy being the only plausible starting point for a game taking place in the short term.
Bioware will announce that high EMS Destroy is the cannon ending. They announce that the others are indoctrinated endings a day after the final DLC is released for ME3 and therefore they will not be used to continue the franchise. Or simply make Destroy the ending they will contiue from and don't bother to address indoctrination. But I think if they have any respect for their work and self respect as writers they will admit that synthesis, control and refuse are indoctrinated endings. And maybe even add new versions of destroy as free DLC: destroy, destroy-control and destroy-synthesis. There is absolutely no reason control or synthesis need the reapers to remain. Control and Synthesis being options in lieu with destroy makes them true sacrifices vs. just what people do because they think Destroy will kill the Geth. 

Or the game needs to be far into the future. Probably in Stargazer time.

Bioware has stated that synthesis will occur at some point regardless of which ending is chosen. Furthermore, the Stargazer states that the details concerning the exploits of The Shepard have been lost over time. This, in essense, questions even if the ending you picked is what actually occured becasue the exact details have been lost over time. The ending the player chooses is just the Stagazer's telling of the story. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see where this is going.

The next game in the franchise will take place in the distant future.

In this distant future synthesis will be a reality achieved on our own terms, albeit no glowing eyes and circuit skin. I believe the glow was included to make the outcome visually distinct from the other two. When or how we achieved it will be vague however. This allows for ending ambiguity. This way the player can think maybe it was from synthesis ending; maybe it occured after Destroy or Control.

In this distant future the Reapers will be things of legend. They either were dismantled, left for a new galaxy, were destroyed or whatever. Like the archangel Samael they will be villains in some legends and redeemed heroes in others. No one telling of the story will be given legitimacy over another. This allows for ending ambiguity.

The Geth will still be around. There is no concrete evidence that the Geth are wiped out in Destory. Regardless of rather you side with geth or quarians, there were survivors and those survivor went on to repopulate the race. Peace was achieved at some unspecified time. The Krogan genophage will be cured or overcome naturally at some point in the past. They may even have the Rachni sharing Tuchanka with the Krogan. Or they may just make certain outcomes canon without explaination.

The Shepard's sex will be unknown.

They could also have an event in game similar to Miranda's questioning of Shepard on the shuttle to the Cerberus base in the beginning of ME2. Where a history discusson is taking place and the player states what they have been taught. This would make minor changes to the codex and a few dialogue changes that make no real difference. I could see the game opening on one of the cut off worlds. A fleet has recently arrived after centuries to repair the relay and introduce the lost colony (which is now a city world like terra nova) into galactic community. This way the player gets to be wet behind the ears.



 

[Medievalist]

Please, feel free to do the following poll where you can name your favorite canon ending, should you have to pick one. I'm excited to see, how this turns out:

http://social.biowar...73/polls/39628/

[jpraelster93]

No canon ending this whole idea is retarded way to make choices not matter

[wright1978]

I'm fine with Bioware choosing any of the single endings as a default ending that a sequel will begin from as a fresh start.(parrallel universe to my canon universe)
What i won't tolerate is them trying to force all existing endings into one canon future.

Modifié par wright1978, 20 septembre 2012 - 10:49 .

[Neizd]

No canon. Some people already got short end of a stick with ME2 romances and now you want some of them to get another slap in the face? I am personally 50/50 betwen destroy and refusal but it would be unfair to other fans that have their own ending. If BW will create something like canon ending then I won't buy the next game since it would be too much.

[SpamBot2000]

Refuse win ending for canon, yeah. Or better yet, catalystectomy.

[OblivionDawn]

Sorry, my Shepard's not going down in history as the guy who sacrificed the entire galaxy to satisfy his pride.

-1

[SpamBot2000]

And that's why they should put in a real refuse ending, not the insulting Game Over that someone thought was hilarious that's in there now.

[AlanC9]

SpamBot2000 wrote...

And that's why they should put in a real refuse ending, not the insulting Game Over that someone thought was hilarious that's in there now.

If you don't like your Shepards failing, stop picking Refuse.

[CaIIisto]

'Destroy' is the only acceptable canon ending for me. I'd accept 'refuse' readily if ME3 truly were the final game, but if not then ME4 would be too depressing.

'Synthesis' and 'Control' - no chance. BW can kiss goodbye to my $$$ if they go with the BS green ending.

[SpamBot2000]

AlanC9 wrote...

SpamBot2000 wrote...

And that's why they should put in a real refuse ending, not the insulting Game Over that someone thought was hilarious that's in there now.

If you don't like your Shepards failing, stop picking Refuse.

I'm not picking anything at the moment. Can't play with no proper ending.

And it was certainly not 'my' Shepard that failed in refuse, it was The Mac's.

[bayofangels]

Set it a couple of hundred years after where the galaxy has got to a point where the ending decision choices don't need to be addressed.

ie. Reapers have rebuilt the place and left, if they weren't blown up.
Green skin stuff has faded away after initial Synthesis 'reprogramming'
All the weird sentient husks have died off.
Geth/Quarians have had time to make peace/regrow populations... etc.

[AlanC9]

SpamBot2000 wrote...
And it was certainly not 'my' Shepard that failed in refuse, it was The Mac's.

So your Shep believed that if he really, REALLY wanted something to happen, then it would? And it's Mac's fault that The Secret doesn't actually work in the ME universe?

[Peranor]

Refuse failed because the writers choose to write it that way?

[FOX216BC]

Yes to destroy ending with a decent Shepard scene in it.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

bayofangels wrote...

Set it a couple of hundred years after where the galaxy has got to a point where the ending decision choices don't need to be addressed.

ie. Reapers have rebuilt the place and left, if they weren't blown up.
Green skin stuff has faded away after initial Synthesis 'reprogramming'
All the weird sentient husks have died off.
Geth/Quarians have had time to make peace/regrow populations... etc.

I like this idea and can see Bioware doing it so that no matter what your choice(except refuse) it would be canon in ME4. To further help this:
Krogan have discovered cure for genophage if sabotaged in ME3
Rachni survivor becomes new queen if killed ME3 one

[SpamBot2000]

AlanC9 wrote...

SpamBot2000 wrote...
And it was certainly not 'my' Shepard that failed in refuse, it was The Mac's.

So your Shep believed that if he really, REALLY wanted something to happen, then it would? And it's Mac's fault that The Secret doesn't actually work in the ME universe?

Yeah yeah, 'realism' and such... dismissed these claims back when synthesis retooled the mighty oak tree's DNA to involve Intel inside. No, MY Shepard wouldn't meekly submit to a thorough probing by the Reaper boss and just stand there watching while the wee fella goes all apocalyptic with 'Let it be' or whatever his catchphrase was. My Shep would **** **** up to see if it would shut the lil bugger up.

[Esoretal]

No. Canon endings are awful. What's the point of giving multiple endings if you're going to shoehorn everybody into one ending anyway?

Metro 2033 and its upcoming sequel come to mind. They even make you work to earn the alternate ending, if you want it... then totally disregard it. :/

Modifié par Esoretal, 21 septembre 2012 - 11:54 .

[Ozida]

Bester76 wrote...

'Destroy' is the only acceptable canon ending for me. I'd accept 'refuse' readily if ME3 truly were the final game, but if not then ME4 would be too depressing.

'Synthesis' and 'Control' - no chance. BW can kiss goodbye to my $$$ if they go with the BS green ending.

+1. Although "no canon" sounds good too.

[Subject M]

The reason why there is "no single canon" ending is that everyone can choose to end the story how they wanted it to end (relative the alternatives of course). That was one of the main points of the ME story, to make it your own Shepard journey. That is why there will not be a "canon ending" tied to a single set of choices excluding the others.

In that sense, all the endings are "canon". Its an "multi canon" type of story

This is basic stuff.

Modifié par Subject M, 21 septembre 2012 - 11:59 .

[Slayer299]

Subject M wrote...

The reason why there is "no single canon" ending is that everyone can choose to end the story how they wanted it to end (relative the alternatives of course). That was one of the main points of the ME story, to make it your own Shepard journey. That is why there will not be a "canon ending" tied to a single set of choices excluding the others.

In that sense, all the endings are "canon". Its an "multi canon" type of story

This is basic stuff.

Apparently its not that "basic" or a "multi-canon" if what J. Merizan has to say was accurate, that Synthesis will happen even if you didn't pick it.

[Legion of 1337]

Destroy has to be canon - it has to be to continue things as normal. If not, there's either Reapers watching over you or everyone is a cyborg and are in perfect harmony so there's little reason to fight each other.

[Slayer299]

They could also do Refuse, which would allow them to continue the ME franchise and separate it from Shepard and the Reaper War since that would be the far past.

[Legion of 1337]

Slayer299 wrote...

They could also do Refuse, which would allow them to continue the ME franchise and separate it from Shepard and the Reaper War since that would be the far past.

Refuse makes everything we did in the entire ME series pointless. That would effectively make the next game a reboot.

Modifié par Legion of 1337, 21 septembre 2012 - 01:19 .