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[2leggywillow]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Emzamination wrote...
It proved she was in a comitment with the warden vanilla game which counter acts your argument that morrigan never commited to anything.I'm just going to leave it at that as I don't believe you're going to just admit you were wrong.

No it doesn't.  Does literally anyone else reading this thread share your interpretation?  Come on, speak up folks.  Agree or disagree?

Whatever happened to just ignoring people with Diana Allers avatars?  That's what I do.

[upsettingshorts]

2leggywillow wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Emzamination wrote...
It proved she was in a comitment with the warden vanilla game which counter acts your argument that morrigan never commited to anything.I'm just going to leave it at that as I don't believe you're going to just admit you were wrong.

No it doesn't.  Does literally anyone else reading this thread share your interpretation?  Come on, speak up folks.  Agree or disagree?

Whatever happened to just ignoring people with Diana Allers avatars?  That's what I do.

That's a good rule, I think I'll start now.

[Emzamination]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Well that proved nothing whatsoever, certainly not whatever you think it does.

It proved she was in a comitment with the warden vanilla game which counter acts your argument that morrigan never commited to anything.I'm just going to leave it at that as I don't believe you're going to just admit you were wrong.

No it doesn't.  Does literally anyone else reading this thread share your interpretation?  Come on, speak up folks.  Agree or disagree?

"Morrigan: Ah, the old cat still has her claws, I see. And you also do not approve of my involvement with our stalwart Grey Warden."

And we're done here, I can see where this is going.Nice conversing with you shorts

[Pseudo the Mustachioed]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Well that proved nothing whatsoever, certainly not whatever you think it does.

It proved she was in a comitment with the warden vanilla game which counter acts your argument that morrigan never commited to anything.I'm just going to leave it at that as I don't believe you're going to just admit you were wrong.

No it doesn't.  Does literally anyone else reading this thread share your interpretation?  Come on, speak up folks.  Agree or disagree?

Yeah how she feels about the Warden is irrelevant to her underlying motivation to get knocked up with demonspawn and get out. No commitment to the Warden there.

Involvement =/= commitment.

My Hawke was "involved" with Jethann and boy wasn't that the pinnacle of commitment.

Modifié par Pseudocognition, 19 septembre 2012 - 08:46 .

[Renmiri1]

I think it has been pretty clear for a while that only the OP shares her opinion and most of us are either amused or baffled at her insistence that having Isabela have her own mind is something bad.

[Emzamination]

2leggywillow wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Emzamination wrote...
It proved she was in a comitment with the warden vanilla game which counter acts your argument that morrigan never commited to anything.I'm just going to leave it at that as I don't believe you're going to just admit you were wrong.

No it doesn't.  Does literally anyone else reading this thread share your interpretation?  Come on, speak up folks.  Agree or disagree?

Whatever happened to just ignoring people with Diana Allers avatars?  That's what I do.

The fact that you're saying that in my thread speaks volumes.Also love your logic of Avatars you hate defining the user.Only on Bsn

[The Hierophant]

Upsettingshorts wrote...
It seems like your issue is with the fact characters with their own desires and expectations exist.

I hope that the writers do not listen to you, and I'm pretty confident they won't.

I'm getting this vibe too from the posts. Emzamination do you want to control how a companion feels or what they say to your pc, or do you want more options given in an ultimatum besides yes or no, take it or leave it?

Modifié par The Hierophant, 19 septembre 2012 - 08:50 .

[Sylvius the Mad]

Emzamination wrote...

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

Except you don't.  You can choose instead to offend Isabela.

And she breaks up with you

And that's a different outcome, which you're claiming doesn't exist.

There are two clear paths.  Either pander to Isabela's insecurity, or don't.  Not doing that offends Isabela.

which effectively ends the romance meaning the protagonist has one clear cut road ahead of them if they wish to pursue her, no?

Have you met people?  That's what they're like.  If you behave in ways they don't like, they won't have sex with you.

Seriously?  This is your complaint?

[Emzamination]

Renmiri1 wrote...

I think it has been pretty clear for a while that only the OP shares her opinion and most of us are either amused or baffled at her insistence that having Isabela have her own mind is something bad.

I see you didn't bother to read the thread then, No matter but I'll ask you not to take up any more space if all you'r egoing to do is called me entitled and berate me dear, leaving nothing pertaining to the topic in your wake.

Modifié par Emzamination, 19 septembre 2012 - 08:55 .

[Fast Jimmy]

Sylvius the Mad wrote...
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Have you met people?  That's what they're like.  If you behave in ways they don't like, they won't have sex with you. 

To be fair, I believe Emzamination is a woman, if memory serves me correctly. This doesn't always apply with them. 

[Rinji the Bearded]

Emzamination wrote...

"Morrigan: Ah, the old cat still has her claws, I see. And you also do not approve of my involvement with our stalwart Grey Warden."

And we're done here, I can see where this is going.Nice conversing with you shorts

She was banging the Warden.  Wynne didn't approve, in fact she even confronts the Warden about Morrigan.  Morrigan is getting under her skin because she's Morrigan.  There is absolutely nothing in that line of dialogue that says "I'm in a committed relationship with Warden."  In fact, Morrigan disapproves when you do talk to her about making things more serious with her.

[The Hierophant]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

Sylvius the Mad wrote...
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Have you met people?  That's what they're like.  If you behave in ways they don't like, they won't have sex with you. 

To be fair, I believe Emzamination is a woman, if memory serves me correctly. This doesn't always apply with them. 

Or she can be controlling type person.

[Renmiri1]

Guess what, you don't control the BSN forums either. Post nonsense get called on it. Happens.

[paul165]

Wulfram wrote...

Well, you don't have to pick the flirty option just because you're in a romance.

This.

Also note that romancing Isabella initially requires you not to come over all 2.4 children because it scares her - Isabella's romance effectively concludes just before the final mission when she actually is willing to make a commitment to Hawke.

I don't believe it's a personal bias it's just the way the that Hawke decides to get closer to Isabella - it is of course entirely up to you whether your Hawke believes what they are saying or are just saying what they need to having discovered Isabella freaks on receiving the gift.

[eyesofastorm]

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

Have you met people?  That's what they're like.  If you behave in ways they don't like, they won't have sex with you.

Seriously?  This is your complaint?

This is some of the finest work you've ever done I think.  Bravo.  That is all.

[Sylvanpyxie]

Involvement =/= commitment.

I very much agree with this.

And funnily enough I also agree with this:

My Hawke was "involved" with Jethann and boy wasn't that the pinnacle of commitment. 

Modifié par Sylvanpyxie, 19 septembre 2012 - 08:59 .

[Emzamination]

The Hierophant wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...
It seems like your issue is with the fact characters with their own desires and expectations exist.

I hope that the writers do not listen to you, and I'm pretty confident they won't.

I'm getting this vibe too from the posts. Emzamination do you want to control how a companion feels or what they say to your pc, or do you want more options given in an ultimatum besides yes or no, take it or leave it?

Yes, my issue is the whole relationship is take it or leave it with no room to manuever in between.The protagonist is confined to go along with isabela's way of thinking with no possible opportunity arising dialogue or otherwise to try and convince her differently.Like I said it's very linear.

[Masha Potato]

2leggywillow wrote...

Whatever happened to just ignoring people with Diana Allers avatars?  That's what I do.

mwahahaha that was my first thought after seeing the thread

[The Hierophant]

Emzamination wrote...

The Hierophant wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...
It seems like your issue is with the fact characters with their own desires and expectations exist.

I hope that the writers do not listen to you, and I'm pretty confident they won't.

I'm getting this vibe too from the posts. Emzamination do you want to control how a companion feels or what they say to your pc, or do you want more options given in an ultimatum besides yes or no, take it or leave it?

Yes, my issue is the whole relationship is take it or leave it with no room to manuever in between.The protagonist is confined to go along with isabela's way of thinking with no possible opportunity arising dialogue or otherwise to try and convince her differently.Like I said it's very linear.

Sometimes this is one of the reasons i wish that the DA series adopted Deus Ex: HR's dialogue challenge.

[upsettingshorts]

Emzamination wrote...

Yes, my issue is the whole relationship is take it or leave it with no room to manuever in between.The protagonist is confined to go along with isabela's way of thinking with no possible opportunity arising dialogue or otherwise to try and convince her differently.Like I said it's very linear.

The Rivalmance is 100% this.  You can go now, the thread is over.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 19 septembre 2012 - 09:07 .

[berelinde]

Emzamination wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Well that proved nothing whatsoever, certainly not whatever you think it does.

It proved she was in a comitment with the warden vanilla game which counter acts your argument that morrigan never commited to anything.I'm just going to leave it at that as I don't believe you're going to just admit you were wrong.

No it doesn't.  Does literally anyone else reading this thread share your interpretation?  Come on, speak up folks.  Agree or disagree?

"Morrigan: Ah, the old cat still has her claws, I see. And you also do not approve of my involvement with our stalwart Grey Warden."

And we're done here, I can see where this is going.Nice conversing with you shorts

"Involvement" is not synonymous with "commitment". Pseudocognition sums that up with his Jethann example.

The banter between Morrigan and Wynne is not about commitment, love, or even affection. It's about power and control. They are flexing their muscles at each other and asserting their dominance. It's an eloquent cat fight.

[Emzamination]

[quote]And that's a different outcome, which you're claiming doesn't exist.[/quote]

Again I repeat linear


[/quote]
[quote]Have you met people?  That's what they're like.  If you behave in ways they don't like, they won't have sex with you.

Seriously?  This is your complaint?[/quote]

I have to disagree with that, you can always attempt to persuade people to think differently.Also the club scene disagrees with you in terms of sex.A woman who initially might not like a guy can be persuaded to have sex with him for many different reasons and vice versa.This is not an Absolute

[Emzamination]

Renmiri1 wrote...

Guess what, you don't control the BSN forums either. Post nonsense get called on it. Happens.

That just the thing, you're not calling me on it.Your sole purpose thus far has been berating.

[Sylvanpyxie]

I honestly believe that rejection needs to be a more common thing from Love Interests.

If someone was trying to make me conform to their way of thinking, if they were trying to alter how I felt and what I believe, I would beat the ever-living crap out of them, before politely informing them that a relationship was not going to happen.

I mean, alternative romance routes are one thing, but a complete shift in a strong willed individual with their own fully formed personality?

Honestly, if anything - Love Interests have been complete push overs, least in my opinion.

Modifié par Sylvanpyxie, 19 septembre 2012 - 09:09 .

[Emzamination]

The Hierophant wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

The Hierophant wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...
It seems like your issue is with the fact characters with their own desires and expectations exist.

I hope that the writers do not listen to you, and I'm pretty confident they won't.

I'm getting this vibe too from the posts. Emzamination do you want to control how a companion feels or what they say to your pc, or do you want more options given in an ultimatum besides yes or no, take it or leave it?

Yes, my issue is the whole relationship is take it or leave it with no room to manuever in between.The protagonist is confined to go along with isabela's way of thinking with no possible opportunity arising dialogue or otherwise to try and convince her differently.Like I said it's very linear.

Sometimes this is one of the reasons i wish that the DA series adopted Deus Ex: HR's dialogue challenge.

Thank you Hierophant