mcjihge2 wrote...
My question is - will i still have 200% cool down with +30% weight capacity bonus Asari adept (only to 4th thing) with the nerfed carnifex X? If not i propose a weight capacity buff for the asari adept.
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The Mad Hanar wrote...
Pistols are meant to be the casters main weapon of choice.
Bioware seems to have forgotten that. Or they don't consider the Carnifex a pistol.
CmnDwnWrkn wrote...
I can live with these. If you believe they need to be nerfed, these seem like reasonable changes.
ImBanginUrGirlFriend wrote...
Lastly, the Piranha is not overpowered. Try it on an adept on Gold and Platinum and see how well that works out for you.
It lets you hang with all the weapon classes and actually get a decent score. Wouldn't call that OP though.thegamefreek78648 wrote...
ImBanginUrGirlFriend wrote...
Lastly, the Piranha is not overpowered. Try it on an adept on Gold and Platinum and see how well that works out for you.
Worked pretty damn well for me actually.
thegamefreek78648 wrote...
To bad that reason tends to fly out the window when bioware makes its very rare nerf....
There are going to be pages and pages on how the guns have been completly ruined, how bioware is taking away all their fun, that given how xp is awarded it shouldnt matter if a gun is OP, how MP has just been completly ruind and so many people will be claiming they are leaving the game.
Now, what I'm looking forword to is the rumored Eagle buff that is also going to be coming. Is the weapon finally going to be worth its N7 rating? Right now its probably between rare and ultra rare, good but not as good as it should be.
whateverman7 wrote...
thegamefreek78648 wrote...
To bad that reason tends to fly out the window when bioware makes its very rare nerf....
There are going to be pages and pages on how the guns have been completly ruined, how bioware is taking away all their fun, that given how xp is awarded it shouldnt matter if a gun is OP, how MP has just been completly ruind and so many people will be claiming they are leaving the game.
Now, what I'm looking forword to is the rumored Eagle buff that is also going to be coming. Is the weapon finally going to be worth its N7 rating? Right now its probably between rare and ultra rare, good but not as good as it should be.
normally i'd agree with your observation of the over reaction on here, but in this case, i disagree....not cause the nerfs are bad, it's cause i dont think the nerfs are needed...BW isnt 'balancing' these guns cause they break the game, they are doing it cause they are too popular....think about that for a sec....cause they are too popular and they want players to use other weapons...no way they try to say it nor no matter how little the nerfs are, that's bs on BW's part....they dont have the right to dictate to the players what to use in the game (unless it's an operation weekend)....they gave us all these things, yet get upset at the choices we make...the way they show they're upset, they 'balance' things....that's bs...
as for the eagle: i disagree about that too...it's already a good gun and worth the n7 rating...them buffing it is only gonna birth serious 'the eagle is OP' threads....
Love the communication. Oh and the Balance changes, I really like those too. It's rare to see this kind of commitment, I think it's fair to say that a lot of developers are in a kind of fire and forget mode.
Modifié par The fool you should have eaten, 20 septembre 2012 - 09:02 .
ImBanginUrGirlFriend wrote...
Eric,
I stongly disagree with these proposed changes. I think we need to examine the reasoning behind them. In your post for the Sept 18 balance changes you mention that the Piranha is too dominant and that the Carnifex is "obscuring too many other weapons in it's class".
First, if the purpose is to have all weapons equal and or viable, then why have different weapons at all? Just have one pistol, one sniper rifle, one SMG, etc. Why have different categories (common, rare, ultra rare) if all weapons are to be equal? The fact that some weapons are rare or ultra rare implies that some weapons are better or more powerful than others. As it should be. Isn't that the idea? We choose the most powerful weapon we can, balanced with other concerns like the impact of weight on cooldown times. I'm not going to play Platinum with an Eagle just because the Eagle exists or because I "should" use other weapons. I'm going to pick my most powerful character/weapon combination in order to win.
Nerfing a gun (any gun) doesn't make the Eagle better - I won't suddenly be able to complete Platinum with my Eagle just because you nerfed the Carnifex. It just makes the gun you nerfed worse. So essentially you are reducing the pool of viable weapons on Gold and Platinum all in the name of "balance" and equality.
You killed the Typhoon - an ultra rare - for what? Balance? If by balance you mean that no one will use it on Gold and Platinum then congratualtions you succeeded. Enough with balance already. We want some weapons more powerful than others.
Lastly, the Piranha is not overpowered. Try it on an adept on Gold and Platinum and see how well that works out for you. You cannot determine the power of a weapon by how often it is used which is what you seem to be basing this on. Go play the game on Gold and Platinum with the weapon and then see if it is overpowered. And play it with various characters. While you're at it, go take the Typhoon for a spin on Gold and Platinum and see what you did to it. You will be so underwhelmed that we'll see a buff next week.
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Jiovanie- wrote...
Maybe instead of nerfing guns that the community uses more often, why not buff up guns that almost never get used? I mean some guns will never see the light of day simply because they're horrible. On a side note: I kind of wish the Javelin had more thermal clip capacity.
whateverman7 wrote...
thegamefreek78648 wrote...
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Now, what I'm looking forword to is the rumored Eagle buff that is also going to be coming. Is the weapon finally going to be worth its N7 rating? Right now its probably between rare and ultra rare, good but not as good as it should be.
as for the eagle: i disagree about that too...it's already a good gun and worth the n7 rating...them buffing it is only gonna birth serious 'the eagle is OP' threads....
Lynx7725 wrote...
You're missing my point. If the distribution of shotguns used is spread amongst multiple different shotguns, it isn't terrible -- there's variety in the gameplay and no one weapon overly dominate. That's a good thing.nicethugbert wrote...
There will always be something more common no matter what you do. That is the result of weapon tiers. As long as weapons are dissimilar, some weapons will always be more common. So, there is no point to these nerfs.Lynx7725 wrote...
Bears out in my PUG experience, with it and the Reegar being quite common shotties.
If one or two weapons are hogging all the usage, it typically indicates there is some design issues with the shotguns in questions, or with the others. The typical outcome is convergence of weapons used and thus stagnation of playstyle, which is a deathknell for any game. There is likely a balancing need. The point of weapons balancing (IMO) is to have dissimilar weapons, but yet having all or most of the weapons useful enough for different playstyles, to accomodate the largest possible segments of player base.
Having said all the above, what it really means is that the developers need to take a closer look at the data and usage across the various factors (class, difficulty, enemies) and decide if there is actually an issue. Eric and team seems to have done so and deem there to be actually an issue.
Modifié par nicethugbert, 20 septembre 2012 - 09:56 .
neroscuro wrote...
Eagle is a promotional weapon: in theory it means you can never unlock it, i.e. never joining bi-weekly events. Carnifex it's a weapon you get by chance if you spend enough credits in the store. Do you understand that buffing a weapon that someone could never have doesn't balance a nerf on a weapon that everybody can have?
billpickles wrote...
Regarding that last part...maybe then I won;t be annoyed as hell every time I get an Eagle in my Comm Pack while still at zero on the Valiant.
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Modifié par Jiovanie-, 20 septembre 2012 - 10:49 .
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Shrug. You totally missed my point. I honestly can't be bothered to expend further effort to explain any more -- if you said that, I quite obviously can't change your mind.nicethugbert wrote...
I saw your point. Your post makes clear you don't want particular weapons to be common. But, something is always common. So, changing weapons just because they are common is a blind, pointless, empty, neve ending excercise.
You are not going to impress anyone by making their favorite weapons suck. They are not going to use that other sucky gun they always avoided just because you trashed their prefered gun.
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