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[ElectronicPostingInterface]

I don't care if Shepard is necessarily in it - I sort of want the cast of the games to return. The main character, Shepard, well I like him but I can live without.

ratzerman wrote...

Shepard is dead. The devs even went out of their way to point out that the "alive" ending could very well be a last breath. Whatever this new game is, those who buy it will be playing as someone new.

Eh? I don't remember that.

Modifié par PKchu, 21 septembre 2012 - 05:34 .

[Dr_Extrem]

King of the Evil Crabs wrote...

I think a new hero could work.

Just provide hanar & elcor squadmates. So much potential.

Bioware never kept it a secret this was the end of shepards story.

nope ... shepard is the best the galaxy has to offer. he/she bested the mightiest enemys the milky way had. 

every  new hero would be a downgrade, that can only try to catch up with shepard.


make a sequel with shepard taking place some short years after the war. shep could have retired as a broken hero (maybe with a too strong affinity to alcohol) on a desolated colony ... seperated from his/her old friends and suffering from post traumatic stress disorder. then an invasion from the uprising terminus systems fractions brings shep back in the saddle.

that could restart the series with style.


do it this way or better let the whole universe die.

Modifié par Dr_Extrem, 21 septembre 2012 - 05:52 .

[CaIIisto]

Shepard could take Udina's place on a newly formed/reformed council.

Although, any new hero and crew will be compared to Shepard and co - good luck with that.

[AlanC9]

PKchu wrote...

ratzerman wrote...

Shepard is dead. The devs even went out of their way to point out that the "alive" ending could very well be a last breath. Whatever this new game is, those who buy it will be playing as someone new.

Eh? I don't remember that.

It was a tweet. IIRC it was to say that you can interpret that scene any damn way you like. If you want Shep dead, he's dead.

[Snypy]

King of the Evil Crabs wrote...

I think a new hero could work.

Just provide hanar & elcor squadmates. So much potential.

Bioware never kept it a secret this was the end of shepards story.

There's difference between the end of Shep's story in the franchise, and Shep having to die in ME3. Had I known how gloomy the ending would be, I would have never started running towards that bloody Conduit.

Modifié par Snypy, 21 septembre 2012 - 06:47 .

[PanzerGr3nadier]

ratzerman wrote...

Shepard is dead. The devs even went out of their way to point out that the "alive" ending could very well be a last breath. Whatever this new game is, those who buy it will be playing as someone new.

Your argument stopped in word "Could"

Anything is possible, We'll see how it turns out.

[Morty Smith]

Sorry to break it to you kids, but your avatar for escapist power and romance-fantasies is data-dust.

[Snypy]

Kroitz wrote...

Sorry to break it to you kids, but your avatar for escapist power and romance-fantasies is data-dust.

The fact that you refer to us as kids is rather funny. Anyway, we have nothing to talk about unless you can give us any concrete evidence that Shep can't survive Destroy with high EMS.

Modifié par Snypy, 21 septembre 2012 - 08:12 .

[Morty Smith]

Snypy wrote...

Kroitz wrote...

Sorry to break it to you kids, but your avatar for escapist power and romance-fantasies is data-dust.

The fact that you refer to us as kids is rather funny. Anyway, we have nothing to talk about unless you can give us any concrete evidence that Shep can't survive Destroy with high EMS.

Sorry kid, but I won´t get in an argument over your head-cannon. Validate your obsession for this fiction without my help.

[Dr_Extrem]

there is no headcanon ... yet - kid.

only "lots of speculation"


the videos name is "shepard lives" btw.

[Snypy]

Kroitz wrote...

Snypy wrote...

Kroitz wrote...

Sorry to break it to you kids, but your avatar for escapist power and romance-fantasies is data-dust.

The fact that you refer to us as kids is rather funny. Anyway, we have nothing to talk about unless you can give us any concrete evidence that Shep can't survive Destroy with high EMS.

Sorry kid, but I won´t get in an argument over your head-cannon. Validate your obsession for this fiction without my help.

I think you may have some serious issues, Kroitz. You said: "Your avatar for escapist power and romance-fantasies is data-dust," without giving any reason why you think so. And then your second reply was: "I won´t get in an argument over your head-cannon." I mean, why did you say something in the first place when you're obviously unwilling to elaborate on your opinion? I just don't understand. 

Modifié par Snypy, 21 septembre 2012 - 09:19 .

[Mello]

Kroitz wrote...

Snypy wrote...

Kroitz wrote...

Sorry to break it to you kids, but your avatar for escapist power and romance-fantasies is data-dust.

The fact that you refer to us as kids is rather funny. Anyway, we have nothing to talk about unless you can give us any concrete evidence that Shep can't survive Destroy with high EMS.

Sorry kid, but I won´t get in an argument over your head-cannon. Validate your obsession for this fiction without my help.

Shepard lives. Bioware even confirmed it, ok Kroitz? 

[PhoenixAeon]

Bester76 wrote...

ME4:

No Shepard/Shepard dead = No interest
Shepard cameo = Maybe
Shepard alive/playable = Definite purchase

I am totally 100% agreed to this.  Honestly, I am not interested in playing anyone than Commander Shepard.  There is still so much more that can be done. Do I really want to start with a new character?  Nope. 

No Commander Shepard = No more ME for me.

All you have to do is see how introducing a new character like Hawke did for Dragon Age .  Although I liked Hawke, it was nothing compared to the Grey Warden. The more options you give the player to create a character that is unique the better. 

Modifié par PhoenixAeon, 22 septembre 2012 - 02:54 .

[gisle]

I find the ME universe to be far more than Shepard and humanity. So yeah, I'm all for a new character, preferably chosen race, but that's too much to ask with VA costs and so on. At least don't have half the squad human this time, they're boring and add little interesting beyond themselves.

[PhoenixAeon]

Snypy wrote...

Kroitz wrote...

Sorry to break it to you kids, but your avatar for escapist power and romance-fantasies is data-dust.

The fact that you refer to us as kids is rather funny. Anyway, we have nothing to talk about unless you can give us any concrete evidence that Shep can't survive Destroy with high EMS.

****** SPOILER ALERT! YOU WERE WARNED! ******** 
****** SPOILER ALERT! YOU WERE WARNED! ******** 
****** SPOILER ALERT! YOU WERE WARNED! ******** 

http://social.biowar...758618#12758842 

It was confirmed that Command Shepard IS alive in the destory ending.

Quoting TullyAckland :

"You may notice that in the “Shepard lives” ending, the love interest hesitates to place Shepard’s name on the wall, and instead looks up as though deep in thought. This is meant to suggest that the love interest is not ready to believe Shepard is dead, and the final scene reveals they are correct. As the Normandy lifts off, there is hope that the love interest and Shepard will again be together."

Modifié par PhoenixAeon, 22 septembre 2012 - 02:58 .

[GreenFlag]

iPoohCupCakes wrote...

Kroitz wrote...

Snypy wrote...

Kroitz wrote...

Sorry to break it to you kids, but your avatar for escapist power and romance-fantasies is data-dust.

The fact that you refer to us as kids is rather funny. Anyway, we have nothing to talk about unless you can give us any concrete evidence that Shep can't survive Destroy with high EMS.

Sorry kid, but I won´t get in an argument over your head-cannon. Validate your obsession for this fiction without my help.

Shepard lives. Bioware even confirmed it, ok Kroitz? 

yop

Modifié par GreenFlag, 22 septembre 2012 - 02:54 .

[Mello]

PhoenixAeon wrote...

Bester76 wrote...

ME4:

No Shepard/Shepard dead = No interest
Shepard cameo = Maybe
Shepard alive/playable = Definite purchase

I am totally 100% agreed to this.  Honestly, I am not interested in playing anyone than Commander Shepard.  There is still so much more that can be done. Do I really want to start with a new character?  Nope. 

No Commander Shepard = No more ME for me.

All you have to do is see how introducing a new character like Hawke did for Dragon Age .  Although I liked Hawke, it was nothing compared to the Grey Warden. The more options you give the player to create a character that is unique the better. 

I feel that if Bioware are not going to give us Shepard, then they should just be done with ME and try to create a new game outside of the Mass Effect universe. I don't want Mass Effect to turn into Dragon Age where every new game you get a new character I can deal with that in Dragon Age but in Mass Effect? Hell no. 

[CaIIisto]

Likewise me with Final Fantasy, and it was always the one thing about that franchise that really, really, p1ssed me off. If you manage to bottle lightning and come up with such a fantastic cast of characters then why in the world would you throw them away and run the risk of not being able to replace them adequately.

I think, if they do go down the 'non-Shepard'/'new story' route then I'll bid adieu to the franchise here and just consider the 'destroy' ending to be the end of ME.

[Dr_Extrem]

Bester76 wrote...

I think, if they do go down the 'non-Shepard'/'new story' route then I'll bid adieu to the franchise here and just consider the 'destroy' ending to be the end of ME.

aye ...

if that happens, i´ll write a story, taking place a few years after the war, with broken, ptsd-shepard trying to live a peaceful life on some desolated planet ... and the events, that make him/her get back in the saddle.

[Snypy]

PhoenixAeon wrote...

Snypy wrote...

Kroitz wrote...

Sorry to break it to you kids, but your avatar for escapist power and romance-fantasies is data-dust.

The fact that you refer to us as kids is rather funny. Anyway, we have nothing to talk about unless you can give us any concrete evidence that Shep can't survive Destroy with high EMS.

****** SPOILER ALERT! YOU WERE WARNED! ******** 
****** SPOILER ALERT! YOU WERE WARNED! ******** 
****** SPOILER ALERT! YOU WERE WARNED! ******** 

http://social.biowar...758618#12758842 

It was confirmed that Command Shepard IS alive in the destory ending.

Quoting TullyAckland :

"You may notice that in the “Shepard lives” ending, the love interest hesitates to place Shepard’s name on the wall, and instead looks up as though deep in thought. This is meant to suggest that the love interest is not ready to believe Shepard is dead, and the final scene reveals they are correct. As the Normandy lifts off, there is hope that the love interest and Shepard will again be together."

Thanks. It's actually very similar to my interpretation, but I don't want to elaborate on it too much on this forum. Besides, it's not so difficult to reach the conclusion that Shep is alive after the LI gave a sigh of relief.

Modifié par Snypy, 22 septembre 2012 - 04:03 .

[CaIIisto]

To be fair, they would be incredibly naive to not create at least one ending where Shepard lives.

Makes you wonder why exactly they didn't in the first instance.....

[LilyasAvalon]

ratzerman wrote...

Shepard is dead. The devs even went out of their way to point out that the "alive" ending could very well be a last breath. Whatever this new game is, those who buy it will be playing as someone new.

This. I have NO idea why people keep saying 'ME4' and 'Shepard' together. Honestly, just because Master Chief got Halo 4, doesn't mean Shepard will.

[Snypy]

LilyasAvalon wrote...

ratzerman wrote...

Shepard is dead. The devs even went out of their way to point out that the "alive" ending could very well be a last breath. Whatever this new game is, those who buy it will be playing as someone new.

This. I have NO idea why people keep saying 'ME4' and 'Shepard' together. Honestly, just because Master Chief got Halo 4, doesn't mean Shepard will.

Actually, if Synthesis or Control is canon for ME4, Shepard will be dead there. But if Destroy is canon, it's likely Shep will be alive. (But I think Shep shouldn't be the main character again; it would feel wrong. I want him in a cameo, though.)

Modifié par Snypy, 22 septembre 2012 - 05:34 .

[Dr_Extrem]

well ...

we havn´t even seen the full story yet ..


currently, the devs are playing with us. the statement that me3 will be the last part with shepard, was made a long time ago. i think, that we can treat it like the "there will be no abc-ending"-statement. we all knew how that turned out.

i think it is older than the sh*tstorm hawke got and i just hope, that they learned from it.

currently, the devs are building several new dlcs, wich are meant to take place within and not after the game. we dont know, how many endings are corrently locked, due to the (lack of) content, that is not implemented yet.

the devs will take a huge risk in presenting a new protagonist - it is a very big gamble. if the new hero turnes out to be a luke warm version of shepard, the people will not buy or review the game in positive manner. . bioware has lost a lot of ground and the fanbase feels betrayed. many are considering not to buy a new bw-game, unless it gets very good reviews from other gamers and fans (people don´t trust the media anymore).

it is time to man up and to admit, that the sh*t hit the fan with me3. in the end they could get out of it as the smiling smarta**es, that played with us from the very beginning.

[RedWulfi]

Please don't call it Mass Effect 4 <.<;