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#26
TEWR

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esper wrote...

Spirit Warrior is basically advanded Templar with higher risk of becoming an abormination.


I edited my post to explain a bit more why I think it's the case that Justice might've been disinterested while he was in the Fade.

To address this though, a non-Mage does not become an Abomination. They can become possessed, but an Abomination is defined in Thedas as any Mage that's possessed by a Demon.

Minor nitpick, but crucial me feelz.

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 17 janvier 2013 - 01:14 .


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The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

esper wrote...

Spirit Warrior is basically advanded Templar with higher risk of becoming an abormination.


I edited my post to explain a bit more why I think it's the case that Justice might've been disinterested while he was in the Fade.

To address this though, a non-Mage does not become an Abomination. They can become possessed, but an Abomination is defined in Thedas as any Mage that's possessed by a Demon.

Minor nitpick, but crucial me feelz.


Hmm... If it affects the mind the same way it does a mage then I don't care if it is called Elephants and Smugde. Do to the templar kid being 'possed' and turning in to the meat-lump abormination form.

I am going to call it abormination. Beside Anders was called possessed/abormination in da2. I don't think that the charcters in game cares enough about the subtle difference.

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The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Why should Faith pay more attention logically than Justice... That makes absolutely no sense


Illustrative example and nothing more, used mainly because Faith has interacted with a mortal and Justice claims he was very disinterested in the notion in the first place.

They fit the bill of "Spirit that helps and Spirit that doesn't help", which is why I used them in my post. One might expect Justice, by the nature that he embodies, to want to look at the mortal world.

But then again, doesn't he say that most spirits view the mortal world as beyond saving? That'd explain why he doesn't try and intervene in an unjust world while he's in the Fade. Not much he can do to help it. But when he's actually stuck there, then he has to bring justice to the world. That's his purpose and he is no longer capable of returning to the Fade. 


I don't rember him saying that, but I will not disregard the posssibility. What I do remember him saying was that spirit picks their belief from the dreams of humans which means that the overwhelming majority of dreams are going to be Andrastian, where the Maker has abandonded humanity.

if spirits does become Andrastian from the andrastians dreams, then it is perhaps not so strange that they choose to say.. Nah, lost cause.

As for our Justice, well he always had quite a temper. So I have no problem imagine him being to busy with being pissed of at demons for their percieved and real injustices or for just being demons (he seriously didn't like them). So I think that our Justice was sort of busy personally.

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To be fair, we saw in DA2 that non-Mages could be turned into Abominations through Demonology and Blood Magic. So it is possible, it is just highly unlikely to happen naturally.


Although, more to the point... why couldn't someone gifted with magic say "Robes and sticks are for girls. I want to FIGHT!" The Arcane Warrior, though highly overpowered in DA:O, should make a comeback. Give a mage the option to be something other than just squishy.

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Yes! I want Spirit Warrior too.

and Bard, Keeper, Spirit Healer hehehe :D

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I am not saying that the spirit Warrior class is impossible, only that it requires further clarification to make sense, lorewise.

We know they're not mages. The description strongly implies that they are not abominations either. Further, it says the spirits they commune with are in the Fade, not the physical world, as glimpses of the world are the spirits' reward for helping the warrior.

We also know that mundanes, like tranquil, are invisible to Fade denizens without something like a torn veil being around. That's not a matter of a strenuous meditation routine or lack thereof, that's a result of not being a mage. So they would require something to get around that--something they'd always have access to and could use in the heat of battle. Something that demons can't see or don't answer to, because you sure as hell know a demon has more interest in 'seeing the world' than the average spirit.

I have nothing against the concept of this or any other specialisation so long as it's explained satisfactorily.