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#1
Derek Hollan

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Ok,

So, you have a Claymore, a Geth Plasma Shotgun, a Graal Spike Thrower, a Disciple, a Reegar Carbine, a Piranha, a Wraith, and a Crusader. All gold plus the ultra rare and promo shotguns.

Why are you using the Piranha?

And don't give me, "Because the other shotguns suck!" That will just get you ignored. Image IPB

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#2
Derek Hollan

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Here's something to consider when tossing around balance ideas.

You can't just buff all weapons.  There is a concept known as a damage economy.  This works just like other economies.  If a company gives all their workers a raise, then they have to raise the price of the goods they are selling.  The new cost of the items means the workers all need raises to afford them which, then means the price of the goods have to be raised.  Inflation, in other words.

Similarly, if you need to keep a game challenging, you cannot just raise all the weapons because then all the enemies will require buffing.  Then we are caught in a viscous cycle of inflation again.  The trick is to keep the game challenging while ensuring all weapons have equal footing.  Common weapons for Bronze, Uncommon for Silver, and so on.

So, no...you can't just buff them all.  It's complicated and delicate.

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Derek Hollan

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Ok, so most people seem to agree the other shotguns are good.

How would you propose to bring the Piranha in line with the other shotguns so you, as players have a tough choice of which shotgun to bring to the field, without disrupting the damage economy?

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Derek Hollan

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Zardoc wrote...

Derek Hollan wrote...

Ok,

So, you have a Claymore, a Geth Plasma Shotgun, a Graal Spike Thrower, a Disciple, a Reegar Carbine, a Piranha, a Wraith, and a Crusader. All gold plus the ultra rare and promo shotguns.

Why are you using the Piranha?

And don't give me, "Because the other shotguns suck!" That will just get you ignored. Image IPB

Cheers

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So telling the truth will get you ignored? Huh, good to know.


Hardly.  It means I need a better answer as to why you might think that.  Simple.

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Derek Hollan

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najzere wrote...

Derek Hollan wrote...

Ok, so most people seem to agree the other shotguns are good.

How would you propose to bring the Piranha in line with the other shotguns so you, as players have a tough choice of which shotgun to bring to the field, without disrupting the damage economy?

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Increase rate of fire on other shotguns, that's the only reason I like the Piranha in the first place. If you decrease RoF for the Piranha or lower its clip size, I'll just avoid using like I already do with other shotguns. If you decreased the damage for Piranha I would still use it. No matter what you do to nerf the Piranha I won't like  it, however.


Increasing ROF of other shotguns increases DPS of each shotgun. You do that with which throws the damage economy out of whack.  You would have to decrease the damage of those shotguns to compensate.

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Modifié par Derek Hollan, 19 septembre 2012 - 09:45 .


#6
Derek Hollan

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I think Eric's proposal seems to be, at least somewhat, in agreement with most answers here.

He has no desire to touch its damage or rate of fire which, is why he is proposing a 2 shot reduction in the clip.

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Derek Hollan

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RedJohn wrote...

Derek, with fear I will ask this:

What the team think about the Claymore?


The team is happy with the Claymore.  I don't see this ever being touched.  It's a hand-held cannon.

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Derek Hollan

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Big Jack Shepard wrote...

Derek Hollan wrote...

I think Eric's proposal seems to be, at least somewhat, in agreement with most answers here.

He has no desire to touch its damage or rate of fire which, is why he is proposing a 2 shot reduction in the clip.

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Psst...did you notice all of the Wraith feedback?





Hehe, to be honest, I wouldn't mind seeing a Wraith buff too.  So I won't say it will never happen.  I just might have a hard time selling it to Eric. Image IPB

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