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[macrocarl]

Low weight, and can do some clobbering in tight situations.

[Shampoohorn]

It has one of the best DPS to weight ratios in the game.  And it's got great DPS regardless of weight.  What does it say when a weapon can be an awesome choice for an adept or a 2weapon 6/0/6/6/6 krogan sentinel ?

It's only drawback is spread, which can be completely cancelled out by strapping it onto a turan and mostly cancelled with a Geth.  AP ammo ices the cake.

Once I got this weapon, I stopped using my Wraith IV.  The Piranha is much more flexible thanks to it's larger magazine and faster fire rate.  

Modifié par Shampoohorn, 19 septembre 2012 - 08:47 .

[Shezo]

Because :

1. It's a rare weapon, so it's relatively easy to get, unlike crusader or wraith.
2. Weights only 0.9, if i remember correct, it's lighter than GPS or Graal.
3. It's a hitscan weapon, no disappearing projectiles like in case of GPS and Graal.
4. Easy to shoot stuff, because on most ot the maps, enemies tend to get close and personal on you and/or they're kinda big and hulking types like atlas or brute, so it's easy to hit em even on distance.
5. Very high dps, like the highest one maybe.

[Asebstos]

Because its very light and is much better at shredding groups/bosses than the Wraith. It needs AP ammo to really shine, but I'm not really hurting for that stuff. I mostly use it with my Paladin and Vanguards since they're going to be up close with people anyway. With most other classes I've moved on to other shotguns (for instance, Reegar on my Fury and Krogan Sentinel)

I don't use it on my GI because it feels unfair. I like using a Striker or Revenant on him. I rarely play T. Soldier or Destroyer, but when I do I tend to use ARs.

Modifié par Asebstos, 19 septembre 2012 - 08:46 .

[steverw1975]

Derek Hollan wrote...

Ok,

So, you have a Claymore, a Geth Plasma Shotgun, a Graal Spike Thrower, a Disciple, a Reegar Carbine, a Piranha, a Wraith, and a Crusader. All gold plus the ultra rare and promo shotguns.

Why are you using the Piranha?

And don't give me, "Because the other shotguns suck!" That will just get you ignored.

Cheers

For me, it's an issue of weight and clip capacity. I love to use it on my Shadow, as it allows me to SS and either finish off the enemy quickly or take out another enemy I may have not noticed. It does that job well, and at a weight that doesn't mess up my Shadow's power regen rate. Even without the final evo in the Shadow tree, just equipping the Piranha leaves me with +170 power regen. Other shotguns tend to either be too heavy, too slow, or have too little ammo capacity.

[rtbh99]

but im not using the piranha

im using the graal

[rosniak]

I prefer geth plasma shotgun for gold and for bronze/silver matches i played whit crusader or claymore.

[BlackbirdSR-71C]

Derek Hollan wrote...

Ok,

So, you have a Claymore, a Geth Plasma Shotgun, a Graal Spike Thrower, a Disciple, a Reegar Carbine, a Piranha, a Wraith, and a Crusader. All gold plus the ultra rare and promo shotguns.

Why are you using the Piranha?

And don't give me, "Because the other shotguns suck!" That will just get you ignored.

Cheers

Really? The real reason why everyone uses the Piranha gets ignored? That's ignorant.

I mean, why go with 500-600 DPS when I can have 1000 DPS?

Buff the weak weapons so I have a reason to use them!

I'd also like to refer to this very informative thread that might explain the data you're gathering on weapon usage, Derek:

http://social.biowar.../index/14166079

If I have to choose between few select strong weapons or a lot of weak ones, I#m always gonna stick to the few strong ones.

Modifié par BlackbirdSR-71C, 19 septembre 2012 - 08:45 .

[Ramsutin]

For me there are only the following shotguns in the order of my preference
1. Claymore - dat massive damage, accuracy and sound
2. Reegar - DPS monster and great against everything
3. Piranha - also an automatic shotgun, good ROF, excellent DPS, use it on Destroyer/GI
4. GPS - would be n. 3 if not for lag
5. Graal - would be 4 if not for lag

[CmdrPwn]

dzero wrote...

...It's a trap.

[StrawHatMoose]

Best DPS in the game.

[Najarati]

I'm not using the Piranha (often). I'm using the Crusader. You're... you're not going to nerf my Crusader are you?

Also, are there any known issues dev-side about the Crusader's strange "shooting blanks" issue? I mean, I'll aim at a stationary target (redcross hairs, plenty of time to make sure it's a good shot), fire, and have nothing happen aside from the firing animation--no damage, no reaction from the enemy, etc.

Another thing. People might use the Crusader more if it had access to shotgun-specific mods which gave it a unique edge over other precison weapons. Right now, the high caliber barrel and extended clip are all you really need and neither of those are particularly unique to the category.

Modifié par Najarati, 19 septembre 2012 - 08:46 .

[Achire]

Because it does the most damage and is very forgiving? It's not a mechanically fun gun to use like a Graal or something; it's just overpowered. So people use it. If any other generic shotgun like the Katana was buffed to do more damage than the Piranha, everyone would switch over.

P.S. Don't touch my Talon.

Modifié par Achire, 19 septembre 2012 - 08:47 .

[Joco3000]

Aside from the fact I rarely use shotguns?
The Crusader is a harder to get Saber with a smaller magazine and no scoped option and weighs more.
The Claymore is rather heavy and reload cancelling benefits it greatly and I'm not very good at it.
The GPS and Graal weigh a bit too much to be used on casters and suffer greatly from not being host.
The Disciple either doesn't do enough damage per shot or doesn't stagger shielded enemies.
The Scimitar just doesn't do enough damage. Same as the Evicerator and Katana.
The Wraiths' firerate is too low. Damage wise, it's great and works surprisingly well on a Batarian Soldier.
I'm more likely to pick the Reegar over the Piranha though. I seem to do a lot better with it.

[zRz Tyr]

Derek Hollan wrote...

Ok,

So, you have a Claymore, a Geth Plasma Shotgun, a Graal Spike Thrower, a Disciple, a Reegar Carbine, a Piranha, a Wraith, and a Crusader. All gold plus the ultra rare and promo shotguns.

Why are you using the Piranha?

And don't give me, "Because the other shotguns suck!" That will just get you ignored.

Cheers

1. I use Claymore more than i use Piranha.
2. Geth Plasma Shotgun bugs for me to often.
3. Graal Spike thrower is not a shotgun for me.
4. Disciple. There are seriously bettter choices than this gun.
5. I use Reegar as well.
6. I use Piranha sometimes. I am not as impressed by it as everyone else. Its accuracy ruins it for me.
7. I am trying to level it to X before i really decide to use it. But your store system disagrees....
8. I dont have a crusader and i dont care. Even if i did, the store system is ruining it for me here as well.
9. Thank you for including the Argus in MP. I also noticed that the Locust is slightly stronger. I thank you for that as well.

[OneTrueShot]

Going through them ALL and stating absolute fact...

Katana - LOL. Oh god no. Never. Ever. Not even on a special occasion.

Geth Plasma Shotgun - Amazes me that this has flew under the radar so long. The perfect shotgun as shotguns go in this game, high damage, autoaim, good clip, good fire rate, little to no recoil...If I enjoyed using it more, I would

Wraith - An excellent shotgun, it just really needs a RoF buff or clip bumped up 1 shot.

Scimitar - Ugh, I consider this to be THE worst shotgun we have, no stopping power and by the time you've emptied the clip, making use of its' reasonable firing rate, you are already dead on anything above Silver.

Graal Spike Thrower - By god, this thing is AMAZING...If you host. If it weren't for the host issues regarding tennuation and enemy hitboxes, THIS would be my go-to.

Eviscerator - The step up from Scimitar, I don't really have enough experience with this to really comment, so...Therefore, I won't.

Disciple - This is actually an excellent gun, it's my preference paired with an acolyte on classes when I feel like something different. Needs a little more stopping power/higher chance to stagger, making it a more functional utility shotgun.

Crusader - It's excellent at everything it does, it just weighs like a tank, isn't accessible enough and is outdone by weapons in other classes, primarily the Saber.

Claymore - My go-to. Accurate, powerful and so very satisfying to use. Is brought down by its' weight and clip size.

Reegar - The friend of Vanguards and those who wish to tear down the world at close range. Amazing gun that is satisfying to use and puts risk vs reward at a very neck-to-neck level.

Piranha - Excellent gun, only on the classes it synergizes with, has a very stable middle ground between all its' attributes, requiring a player to be almost point blank on none-weapon synergy classes to get the most out of it.

[Heldarion]

I constantly use Claymore, occasionally Wraith and I gave Crusader a try and it felt terrible. Piranha allows me to go rambo mode on Gold with Turian Sentinel. That's the only class I use it on.

[plain numbers]

inb4ClaymoreandGPSnerfnextweek

I, too, use the GPS almost all the time when it comes to shotguns, but what people say about the simplicity of the Piranha is indeed true.

The Claymore is best used when you know how to reload cancel (not always possible on consoles), the Graal and Crusader require good aim, the Wraith weighs a Krogan (edit: negative, confused it with the Crusader), the GPS requires you to learn how to charge and use it efficiently, both for maximum damage and quick shots (steep learning curve overall), the Disciple needs a buff, it only staggers (occasionally). Oh and the Reegar is good but it's best combined with certain classes to make the most of it. Plus, it wants you to get really close to the enemies. 

The Piranha is probably the simplest gold-viable option for shotguns right now. It, too, needs certain classes to become a total map cleaner, but it's also good and easy to use as it is by anyone.

Modifié par plain numbers, 19 septembre 2012 - 08:50 .

[neteng101]

I usually have the Piranha as a backup weapon on the Destroyer and Krogan Sentinel. Its for those "oh ****" moments when you're about to be overrun and there's mayhem and chaos all around you. Just pull out the Piranha, spray/pray like mad and hope you live to fight another wave! I tried the Reegar, but that runs out of ammo in zero time, and these slow moving characters are far too easily sucked up into Ms. Hoover Vac ie. Banshees.

The Claymore, Wraith and Reegar get used as main weapons on some other characters.

The Disciple is pointless unless you want to tickle the enemy, why would anyone use it? Graal is far too lag sensitive but I liked it in single player. GPS has some lag issues too plus I'm not crazy about chargeup anything weapons, hard to use. The Crusader is like a 4-shot Saber... I don't like the handling of either weapon that much, feels CLUNKY to use.

[Zikel]

Claymore, Geth Plasma Shotgun, Graal Spike Thrower, Reegar Carbine

All of those have unique play style, have their strengths and weaknesses and shine on some characters and builds. And they are strong, viable choices. I love all of them and use them.

Disciple

It is supposed to fill the role of ultra light weight shotgun. But it does not keep up with the power creep. Many weight capacity buffs were given and the piranha it not much heavier. It's just not good enough anymore.

Wraith, Crusader

Don't like their play style, but they are not bad at what they do.


Piranha

I can use it on everyone, it is light enough to use on casters, and has the firepower to be a main weapon for soldiers and infiltrators. No ammo problems. Amazing at boss killing. With accuracy bonuses it is effective at any range. It is just easy to use, reliable, works with every class and has the highest dps. Platinum is a joke with a geth Infiltrator with this weapon.

[THEEAV3NG3R]

I am currently using the Piranha because I have just started playing again after a week and a half break and my aim currently sucks.
Any other time I would choose the Claymore or the Wraith, although it would mostly be the Claymore, love this shotgun.

Modifié par THEEAV3NG3R, 19 septembre 2012 - 08:50 .

[Grunt_Platform]

I use the Claymore, GPS and Graal tons actually. I also use the Wraith. I've played with the Crusader, but lag really hurts it for some reason.

But the Piranha occupies a sweet spot that the other guns aren't filling. There's actually classes I'd use it on that I'd rather use the Scimitar on, but the Piranha has much better stopping power for its weight (it's night and day really). Of all the shotguns, it's just the best light-weight anti-crowd gun. Works great on vanguards and CQC classes, as well as casters who just need a panic button to scare off clusters of tough enemies.

It also synergizes a lot better with the Destroyer and Geth classes. If there was a heavier higher power full-auto shotgun, I'd probably use that on Destroyer and GI instead of the Piranha. For the Geth Engineer, the Piranha's just a perfect fit.

...So uh, basically the Piranha's filling a unique niche as full-auto anti-crowd weapon. And it's stupidly effective against bosses too. If the Scimitar, Disciple and Eviscerator were a bit stronger, it would actually cut into my Piranha usage significantly. If there were a heavy riot shotgun, I'd probably start using that too. I personally love the Revenant, but a lot of people overlook it when looking for heavy crowd control weapons (and yes, the Piranha and the Revenant are competing with each other).

Modifié par EvanKester, 19 septembre 2012 - 08:54 .

[Rudest]

It's light, makes an excellent primary weapon or a secondary anti-armor back up weapon in some cases. It has synergy both with weapon classes and power classes.