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#76
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I don't use it. It's incredibly boring now.

#77
PsychoticBiotic

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Claymore > Piranha. That's just my preference. And if I want a light "shotgun", I take my Talon.

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Why I don't use the Graal Spike Thrower? If I am not host a small bit of lag and most of those shots miss their target.

....Disciple?  A very nice shotty that I used alot when I played vanguard due to both its weight and knock down, but I don't play Vanguards all that much anymore. What I found issue with it however was that it had only 4 shots, didn't do all that impressive damage, maybe if it had more shots per clip then I would use it again. ( I do have a idea down below that will fix that.)

.... Reegar? I actually use these when I am playing up close to hostiles even more when I am expecting shielded units. Why I don't use it when I play my vorcha? Because I don't want to be accused of glitching with it.

..... Wraith? Besides having it at lvl II atm, damage is kind of lacking it seems and it has only two shots.

..... Crusader? Bad at hipfire, extremely heavy, not very effective in CQC but I do use it from time to time, though its only lvl III

..... Geth Plasma Shotgun? Mostly due to Guardians blocking the shot, enemies dodging the shot as it tracks to the target, and not very effective when in CQC due only three projectiles that need to be charged to be at full effectiveness.

.... Claymore? I actually use this just not on my soldier due to it having only one shot, miss or don't out right kill the target I am kind of screwed. In fact I see this used more by Geth Infiltrators then the Pirahna, if it isn't that its the Talon.

What is needed is a shot gun magizine upgrade just like the assult rifle magizine upgrade and at the uncommon level.

#79
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I DONT use the piranha, I stick to other shotguns because.....

Piranha is so much easier to use for people; having so many shots and dealing so much damage makes it a girl's weapon, just like the reegar, takes no skill and deals too much damage.

Personally, I think the piranha needs to have its pellets reduced to 6, that way it would fit properly into the shotguns. The gun has a brilliant concept, but the fact thats its so light compiled with the fact that it deals too much damage for its weight renders every other shotgun invalid.

Why bother taking a wraith when you can have an EZ mode gun that does much more dps, particualry on bosses? Why bother taking a claymore when you can have a caster weight weapon that deals comparable damage and weighs no where near as much?

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I hardly ever use the piranha though the few times I have were because it's interesting to have an auto-pelleted shotgun. Most of the time I'm using the Reegar or the claymore which are 2 of my top 5 favorite guns.

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It puts out damage in a quick burst which fills in nicely the time slot I am trying to fill between power recharges ie shadow strike. I also like that it is fully automatic.

#82
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I use the Piranha because my Wraith needs a RoF buff.

I like using my Reegar and Claymore even more.

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I love almost all of those guns mentioned (Sorry, Disciple and Crusader), but I think that the deciding factor is how forgiving the guns are in a tight situation. With the exception of the Reegar, all the other shotguns have severely limited RoF/clip size. In a melee with a phantom, missing your Claymore shot is an easy way to find yourself with a new belly-button. With the Piranha, if you miss the first shot, it's no problem, as there are still 7 shots left to deal the majority of the DPS.

Modifié par pizzaface, 19 septembre 2012 - 08:53 .


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Claymore: Singleshot weapons arent my style, cept javelin if it would be worth its weight
Geth Plasma Shotgun: Too much lag issue
Graal Spike Thrower: Like GPS i love this gun, its sheer metal, but the projectile lag in this game is unbearable, the client should calculate projectiles and hits and tell host, that would basically remove this problem
Disciple: Its not really doing what its supposed to and i kinda dont like its style, tho i used it for a while to have something else then the revenant
Reegar Carbine: Too inflexible for my tastes, tho a good backup weapon i sometimes sport on my fqi for platinum games
Piranha: A well rounded gun, can nothing really good, has okish damage rof and clip while it cant hit the broadside of a barn, a reliable sidearm to my revenant on gun master classes, would prefer a crusader tho
Wraith: This gun just doesnt feel right, its rate of fire is not fitting the animation, a reload canceled claymore is a far superior choice
Crusader: If this baby just wouldnt weight as much as the lovechild of a mako and a thresher maw id be using it on nearly all my classes, i love its style and looks, a unscoped sniper rifle that just weights too much

Hope this did help you, also theres the eviscerator that has the same problems as the wraith and the scimitar whoms damage is just not really worth and where it is a gun fitting my playstyle, its bigger brother the piranha does the job i expected this gun to be

@annomandar, i would very much love to do a derogative post about your balls, but i think that would turn this into a nsfw thread and might gimme a bsn strike i dont like, just be said

Modifié par ShadedPhoenix, 19 septembre 2012 - 08:57 .


#85
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Ashen Earth wrote...

I don't use the GPS or Graal because Guardians are, and always will be a major pain in the ass for people using guns without AP capablities. The Cerberus buffs because "they're the easiest faction" weren't much help either.
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Wut? It's actually pretty easy to mail slot them with both weapons.

I don't really use the Piranha much. If I want a light shotgun, I'll take the Talon, becaus the Talon is amazing. If I want to be a DPS monster on platinum, sure, I'll roll a Piranha GI or Destroyer. But then again, I don't much care for platinum. I use the Claymore much more, because of the massive damage per shot makes it badass and those double shots with a Human Soldier are wonderful. I also prefer the Wraith for more range and oompf per shot. Graal, I can snipe stuff across the map. With spikes! It's amazing.

The Piranha is great for what it does, but personally, I prefer other guns.

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The piranha is a good, all round gun, especially for gold. Most other shotguns don't seem to be as versatile. Though, if it was silver, I'd slap a disciple on my vanguard. If I'm an infiltrator, I'll use a GPS/claymore. If I'm kroguarding, I'll slap on the Reegar.

Never liked the feel of the wraith, same applies to the crusader, plus the cooldown puts me off the crusader immediately, even on classes that cooldown is irrelevant on.

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It appears that all of the crying on the nerf has touched a nerve. Beware BW, while I applaud the effort, we all know the community will lie to you. :-)

To answer your question:

Because on the GI and destroyer, boss mobs go down in under three clips.
That set up is the literal "I Win" button.

On other classes that don't have the passive advantages, it is still light enough to allow me to use powers, and still feel safe and secure up close.

As a caveat I have started using this gun less of late, but don't let anyone fool you. This gun is ridiculously good at killing bosses with the GI and Destroyer, and it makes casters feel much safer up close than they probably should.

Those are the reasons I use it at least.

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Derek Hollan wrote...

Ok,

So, you have a Claymore, a Geth Plasma Shotgun, a Graal Spike Thrower, a Disciple, a Reegar Carbine, a Piranha, a Wraith, and a Crusader. All gold plus the ultra rare and promo shotguns.

Why are you using the Piranha?

And don't give me, "Because the other shotguns suck!" That will just get you ignored. Image IPB

Cheers

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Its the ideal weapon for a Vanguard where all of them lacking in the weapon damage department. Light and powerfull.

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I don't use the piranha that much. When it first came out I had it on a GI just like everyone else but I've since given that up and switched to javelin because of shield gate reduction and because it is more fun. Off the top of my head the only characters I have it on currently are N7 destroyer/demolisher and I rarely ever use it even then because PPR/Harrier, respectively, are the primary weapon there. Unless you have it on a GI, the gun really is not that overpowered since it is terribly inaccurate at medium and long range.

I use claymore and reegar a lot more than I use piranha.  

Modifié par jfruelas521, 19 septembre 2012 - 08:58 .


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I like using the Piranha because it gives me a good cool down on the Paladin, and fits my playstyle with the Paladin which is up close and personal while providing a high enough dps that I'm unlikely to get clobbered by small enemies. Even with stability gear on it's still not that great at range (though acceptable for my Paladin), so with other casters I like to use more long range weapons. The reegar I use with the Krogan vanguard and the vorcha. The claymore I used on infiltrators, but I haven't played many infiltrators lately. I know that the disciple is supposed to be the caster shotgun, but the damage output is simply far to low.

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Derek Hollan wrote...

Ok,

So, you have a Claymore, a Geth Plasma Shotgun, a Graal Spike Thrower, a Disciple, a Reegar Carbine, a Piranha, a Wraith, and a Crusader. All gold plus the ultra rare and promo shotguns.

Why are you using the Piranha?

And don't give me, "Because the other shotguns suck!" That will just get you ignored. Image IPB

Cheers

Image IPB


I switch it up. Using the same weapon too often gets boring.

I find most other users I see don't use their weapons and powers to their full potential, and their play styles aren't as agreesive as it's possible to be in the game. The reason I think the piranah is so popular is because it's a fairly new weapon and it has an easy learning curve. If you make a mistake with it, you're not likely to be in as much trouble as the claymore, for example.

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I use it because it lets out a wall of pellets that, on a Destroyer, let's you hit/stagger/kill multiply enemies at once, combined with Incendiary ammo (Of any level) it can at least postpone enemy advances onto a position. As well as it just kills things quickly.

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Ashen Earth wrote...

I don't use the GPS or Graal because Guardians are, and always will be a major pain in the ass for people using guns without AP capablities.


Strange, I have no problems with guardians when using GPS. If at least one plasma ball makes it through the mailslot it will kill them, 1-3 uncharged shots are usually enough.

Or maybe I am just lucky.:whistle:

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Wraith: It takes too long to kill bosses with the Wraith. I would need the best consumables to take big bosses reasonably fast. The Wraith is fun to use, just the result is not funny.

The Graal is hard to use off-host, but I like it

Disciple: Just no, I would just use the GPS, Graal or the Scorpion pistol. Why would I need a 200% cooldown with a shotgun?? Someone ever tried taking down an Atlas with a Disciple?

Reegar Carbine: Better than the Piranha for Vanguards and on small maps like the overplayed Glacier

Crusader: one upgrade every 2 weeks? I have not unlocked it...

Last but not least: If you got a reasonably competent GI in your lobby you have to take a good gun if you want to kill anything. I know score does not matter, co-op, bla bla... But let us be honest it is not fun if some other guy kills a Brute faster than the warp ball of my adept travels to the target.

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I usually don't use shotguns at all, I just can't figure out how to use them properly without dying all the time and still doing decent enough damage. But when I do, I tend to use those with bigger mags and higher ROF - like the Piranha. Plus, it is really light compared to monsters like the Crusader or Claymore. The Crusader I use rarely, but its accuracy makes popping Guardian's heads really fun.

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Because the other shotguns suck at X compared to the claymore, piranha, and reeger on a kroguard.
Nerfing the piranhas clip size will not change how often people use it, you need to nerf the joke shotguns to be a more viable option on harder difficulties.

Modifié par Uh Cold, 19 septembre 2012 - 08:58 .


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Claymore and Wraith are too slow and too low in clips for my liking.

Graal Spike Thrower, GPS, and Crusader seem to have issues with aiming and lag (Though truth be told, the Crusader is my absolute favorite shotgun).

The Disciple is too darned weak-- I like that it staggers, but that's about all I can seem to do with it.

The Reegar Carbine is actually a favorite of mine as well, but I find the clip size to be just a shade too small for my liking.

The Piranha just sits in a nice sweet spot for me-- the clip is of a good size, the damage is nice, I like the firing rate, and it's not too heavy so I can stick it on some of my caster classes to fun effect. Truthfully, if the Crusader had hitscan, or even if it were just a shade lighter, then I'd likely use that all the time.

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Homey C-Dawg wrote...

I'm not using the Piranha. I'm using the Wraith.

If I'm not using the Wraith, I'm using the Claymore.



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Although it's not my favorite shotgun, I use it on vanguards because it's "click and spray" (much like the reegar), which is very useful after a charge. Generally speaking, it's an easy to use shotgun that has no drawback to speak of when used at close range and at level X, emptying a clip generally synergizes well with power cooldowns.

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I recently chose the Piranha for my Cerberus Vanguard, as it's a great weapon to use just out of a Charge, and at close range, the accuracy isn't really a hindrance. I have used it on a Geth Infiltrator and Destroyer, and I do see the large implications of what it can do. But I have no real ideas on how to 'balance' it to get it away from the 'over used' status that it currently has without hurting its current niche as a close range, rapid fire shotgun.

Moreover, I tend to use the GPS, and the Reegar more often than the Piranha.