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[Suggestion] Save Game Import Creator


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Maclimes

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 I feel like, if the events of previous games are going to be relevant, there needs to be a way to resolve the many import issues from DA:O to DA2, not to mention the weird continuity errors between DA:O and DA:A (such as the Warden's survival).

The way I would recommend it is make the whole thing appear as a book. First, you could optionally import a DA:O and DA2 save. You would still go through the book, making changes if you like, or just verifying that all of your decisions were carried over properly (and correcting any that went wrong).

The first chapter, entitled "The Hero of Ferelden" would cover the events of DA:O. First you have your character creator for visual appearance (and possibly voice), then the events of the game. Each page would have a summary at the top, then at the bottom a choice to make. If you imported a save, the choice would be pre-filled in (although you could change it at this point if you desire). Each page represents one choice. For example, there would be one page for the Elves, one page for the Dwarves, one page for Redcliff, one page for Romance, etc etc etc.

Here's the tricky bit of the whole thing: Transitioning from Origins to Awakening. Here's what I propose. A "Fate of the Warden" screen, in which you choose from the following:
 1- Warden died fighting Archdemon. Awakening (and DLC) will star the Orlesian Warden Commander.
 2- Warden is alive, but pursuing whatever is relevant in epilogue (leading alienage, travelling with Sten, etc). Awakening (and DLC) will star the Orlesian Warden Commander.
 3- Warden continues on to Vigil's Keep. Awakening (and DLC) will star the Ferelden Warden Hero. After that, he/she then pursues whatever was relevant in the DA:O epilogue.

Then, Chapter Two ("Awakening") would begin. IF you have an Orlesian Warden Commander, you go through a new character creator (If voice is relevant, it should be locked in as an Orlesian one). Then you dive through the decisions as normal.

Then you have Chapter Three, which is Golems of Amgarak and Witch Hunt ("Further Adventures in Ferelden"). These will feature whichever was the protagonist of chapter two, with ONE EXCEPTION: If you chose option 2 during the "Fate of the Warden" screen, and the epilogue choice was "Hunt Morrigan", Witch Hunt would star the Ferelden Warden Hero, while Golems would star the Orlesian Warden Commander.

Finally, you have chapter four ("The Champion of Kirkwall"), again with character creator for Hawke and page-by-page decision making. Not much to say here, other than that it should include Legacy and Mark of the Assassin.

When you're done, BOOM! You now have a big "super saved game" to import into DA3.

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In fact, I think they should release this tool before DA3 comes out, similar to the character creator for DA:O, to let old players prepare their characters, let new players become familiar with the history of the franchise, and generate buzz about the game. It seems like a win-win, especially since this would be relatively simple for Bioware to do. (They are obviously already doing a character creator, so it's not like that would need to be new. And the rest is more or less text options being written to a small database.)


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Addendum 1: If they feel like being REALLY kind, you could have the option to export before the DA2 chapter, so you can use it as an importer for DA2 as well.

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Addendum 2: In my opinion, one of the most important factors in this system (and one of the greatest arguments for it) is that it fixes the DA:O to DA:A awkwardness.

Theoretically speaking, there should be three possibilities:
1 - YOUR Ferelden Hero does the Ultimate Sacrifice, YOUR Orlesian gets sent to Vigil's Keep.
2 - YOUR Ferelden Hero wanders off, YOUR Orlesian gets sent to Vigil's Keep.
3 - YOUR Ferelden Hero gets sent to Vigil's Keep.

However, in the current setup, there's only two options:
1 - YOUR Ferelden Hero gets sent to Vigil's Keep, even if they're dead.
2 - DEFAULT Ferelden Hero does the Ultimate Sacrifice, YOUR Orlesian gets sent to Vigil's Keep. 

Neither of those are good. My system would fix that. 

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Addendum 3: As an alternative to a stand-alone program, that would have to be ported over to various consoles, the whole thing could be a web-based interface. The final save would be uploaded to your BSN profile, and could be downloaded for importing into DA3 on whatever device you were using.

Modifié par Maclimes, 02 novembre 2012 - 04:31 .

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Most Definitely Sane

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I think this will be needed, especially for when they move on to next-gen.
And there won't be any import errors, either!

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Fabulous idea, good sir. After playing Origins a hundred times over, it was a blessing when Gibbed came out with his save game generator for DA2.

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Mel213 wrote...

Fabulous idea, good sir. After playing Origins a hundred times over, it was a blessing when Gibbed came out with his save game generator for DA2.


I liked that, too. It had some flaws, though, and was missing some information (such as the Warden's appearance). Also, it lacked context and fluff. I'd like to see it be a bit more "interactive" and "flavorful".

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Yes, please! Putting resources into this would be well spent.

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AdmiralDavidAnderson

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Great idea. Please give this a read Bioware.

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Giltspur

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Yeah, I figure there's something wrong with the imports that can't be fixed and that having a save game creator would be best.  And I'd rather it be a book than a comic given Dragon Age.  It would also allow them to "fix" the issue with US wardens in Awakenings.

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AdmiralDavidAnderson

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This is also a good idea because I lost my original saves and don't want to play through again(for now). Please let us re-create our choices with something like this.

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A good suggestion, and it will be needed for DA3, since it is going to be on the next gen of consoles.

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Man, I forgot about some of those potential bonuses.

* Good for people who lost their old saves.

* Good for people on consoles.

And again, I don't think it would be a major investment of resources. If I'm wrong, by all means, correct me (not that anyone on BSN has ever needed permission there...).

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This is great, I like this idea very much.

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This is a really good idea and one I'd love to see implemented (especially on consoles, which is where I play DA anyway...) so that I could be a bit more picky with the decisions in the games and leave the effect I want on the game before starting up.

A really cool idea, thanks for sharing OP.

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mordy_was_here

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It would be great if we could get this stickied somehow. I'd hate to see it lost in the posts.

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Maclimes

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Thanks for all the positive feedback, guys!

Let's hope they're reading this!

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Yes.

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I also think, for players who may be new to the franchise, there should be pages without choice, to fill in the story. Instead of a simple list of choices (like in Gibbed's awesome creator), let it actually tell the story of both games, with you making "choose your own adventure"-style choices along the way. That way, people who've never played the games before can actually get a really good idea for what's going on in the Thedas.

I'm not saying they should be long, drawn-out stories. DA:O could probably be summarized in only a dozen pages, and still include enough information to introduce new players to the world.

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Maclimes wrote...

Man, I forgot about some of those potential bonuses.

* Good for people who lost their old saves.

* Good for people on consoles.

And again, I don't think it would be a major investment of resources. If I'm wrong, by all means, correct me (not that anyone on BSN has ever needed permission there...).


I lost my saves AND I am on console so this would be great for me. I just hope they wouldn't charge for it.

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Of course this would be great. It is problematic having to maintain the saves over years

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They won't need to create this. There are saved games available for download with save editors out there. The fans will create it for them.

Modifié par ReggarBlane, 19 septembre 2012 - 09:30 .


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In my opinion, this is a MUST HAVE feature for DA3, especially considering the lack of plot flags for some choices in DA:O and Awakening.... Please, BioWare!

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This is a wonderful idea. Please, BioWare, make it happen.

Recently, I introduced my sister to DA2. She has never played a computer game in her life, so I felt that the game mechanics of DA2 would be easier for her to master than those of DA:O. I didn't bother with the Gibbed's save game generator because, while it is indeed awesome, she has not played DA:O. The radio buttons would have meant nothing to her.

Maclimes's suggestion would have helped her tremendously.

Also, I like to replay games, but most of my saves were lost with my old computer. I'd really like the opportunity to be able to import more than one save.

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ReggarBlane wrote...

They won't need to create this. There are saved games available for download with save editors out there. The fans will create it for them.


I still think they would be well-served creating an official utility for this.

Like I said, it would generate buzz, bring new players up to speed, and allow existing fans to get their saves ready.

Besides, the save editors and downloaded saves don't tell you the story, don't allow you to customize appearance, and don't fix any of the continuity problems (like the DA:O to DA:A "Ultimate Sacrifice" problem).

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YES, please.
I have a ton of savegames, but I'm still not satisfied with a particular one. And I've played both DA:O and DA 2 so damn much that I don't know if I can get myself to do another complete playthrough.

And if it's in the style of a book, that could be really damn creative. And it would look awesome.

I remember that Fable 1 had a kind of website that was actually an interactive book, where you got to make decisions. I unfortunately can't find it anymore, but suffice to say is that it was extremly fun and original.

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ReggarBlane wrote...

They won't need to create this. There are saved games available for download with save editors out there. The fans will create it for them.


Yes, except the people who play it on consoles do not have that option.

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It would be more well-serving to EA to entice players to get the previous games or go through their own hassle otherwise. Less time spent on developing the tool, more income from those who don't have the fan-made tool or are disappointed with the fan-made tool.