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[Pedrak]

I support the OP's idea.

Incidentally, I made a very similar thread about importing saves in ME3 during its development, and I got:

- similar answers from fellow posters: general support plus some "there are fan made mods to do this!" reactions - well, maybe something safer for my saves would be better.
 and
-no answers from the devs.

Considering how the whole business with ME3's faces turned out, they better consider the idea this time.

Modifié par Pedrak, 19 septembre 2012 - 09:42 .

[Dubozz]

Great idea. I was totaly screwed with my DAO:A saves in DA2. Please make it so Bioware!

[Sandy]

This is a wonderful idea. Like a lot of people who have DA:O and DA2 on the PC I have used Gibbed to re-create the Origins save that I wanted to import to DA2 (lost my Origins saves in a total computer crash). However, this couldn't re-create the look of my Warden, and some choices from Origin were left out.

I would be so happy if Bioware could create something like this. I mean, they managed to do something similar with the Mass Effect comic for PS3, so it is doable without a doubt.

It wouldn't have to be released before the actual game in my opinion... since that would only cause extra room for complications.

[Charane]

It's a nice idea but I dont think its likely to happen. However I dont see any reason why detailed questions about past game playthroughs could not be implemented. I no longer have saved games for either DA:O or 2 and I don't want my game to be penalized for not producing a saved game into DA3.

[AdmiralDavidAnderson]

It would be cool to hear from some of the devs / staff. What do they think of this idea?

[ManOfSteel]

I support this idea. Gibbed's creator was superb.

[Feanor_II]

Support.

I "need" a way to incorporate my Orlessian Warden from Awakening in the main story.

[apple_sauced]

ReggarBlane wrote...

It would be more well-serving to EA to entice players to get the previous games or go through their own hassle otherwise. Less time spent on developing the tool, more income from those who don't have the fan-made tool or are disappointed with the fan-made tool.

Except that many people new to DA3 would walk away, or simply not import a save rather than purchase the old games and play each of them for 60+ hours.

From a marketing perspective, putting this tool online for free would be a great move. I think a lot of people would get sucked into the story and want to play DA3 to continue it.

If you'll recall, this is essentially what they did for ME2 on the PS3, although the genesis comic was not freely available, but rather as a pre-order bonus. If they're going to go through the trouble of making something cool, they should maximize the value they can get from it.

Otherwise, if they just want to give us an options menu where we can check or uncheck things, that's great too, just not as friendly to new users.

[Master Shiori]

@OP

Excellent idea.

My only worry is how detailed the choices will be. I don't want an ME2 style interactive comicbook that only covers the biggest choices of ME1 and ignores all the lesser ones.

[Mr.House]

This is what Bioware should do. There was way too many import bugs in DA2, some which where very bad(like Zev wanting to have sex with your Hawke even if he was romanced in DAO)

A thing like this would get rid of these issues and would let players not be worried they will get a import bug.

Modifié par Mr.House, 19 septembre 2012 - 09:59 .

[Maclimes]

Master Shiori wrote...

@OP

Excellent idea.

My only worry is how detailed the choices will be. I don't want an ME2 style interactive comicbook that only covers the biggest choices of ME1 and ignores all the lesser ones.

That is, of course, a valid concern. How many flags should we worry about?

For example, the Brecillian Forest in DA:O. There's the obvious big one, concerning who you side with. That's a given.

But should it ask about Cammen and Ghenya? Or the actions regarding Danyla? Or the fate of Elora's halla? The way I look at it, you have a few options:

1 - Ask every single choice, no matter how small it may seem.
2 - Only offer the major important choices. Fill in the details with default answers (perhaps related to your character's other choices. For example, a Warden who chooses mostly "good" answers for most questions will get "good" answers for those details). 
3 - When you start the Import Book process, choose "detailed" or "basic", which will allow the player to decide which of the above options they will use.
4 - Basic option for creating a "new import", Detailed option for "modifying an existing import". It sort of serves as a reward for those who are hanging on to old saves, I guess.
5 - Basic only, and don't bother with even default answers for the details, because the minor little decisions will never be mentioned or relevant again.

Personally, I'd like number 1 or 3, of course. What do you think?

[Xephyr829]

Great idea. +1

[BouncyFrag]

Great idea! I do worry that no matter what things you have done (especially DA:O) will have little to no impact in DA3. Bioware, please prove me wrong.

[Alexander1136]

Maclimes wrote...

 I feel like, if the events of previous games are going to be relevant, there needs to be a way to resolve the many import issues from DA:O to DA2, not to mention the weird continuity errors between DA:O and DA:A (such as the Warden's survival).

The way I would recommend it is make the whole thing appear as a book. First, you could optionally import a DA:O and DA2 save. You would still go through the book, making changes if you like, or just verifying that all of your decisions were carried over properly (and correcting any that went wrong).......

Great Idea +1


Yes I agree compelety with this. Have some way to make sure your warden is your warden, what he did was remembered and the same for Hawke. I can't tell you how many play throughs of da2 I've done were I got to chapter 3 and zevran was alive and im all "but i killed him...violently"  So somekind of system like this to ensure our characters carry over properly would be fantastic.

Modifié par Alexander1136, 19 septembre 2012 - 10:12 .

[Maclimes]

I think, that even if the decisions are never referenced or relevant, this tool would have several benefits:

1 - Like I've mentioned, it brings new players up to speed. Can't over-state the value of this.

2 - It allows existing players to see their Warden's exploits, in a book, as if they mattered. They can quite literally close the book on their past protagonist's stories. It would help provide a sense of completeness, closure, and connection.

[ChaosAgentLoki]

Feanor_II wrote...

Support.

I "need" a way to incorporate my Orlessian Warden from Awakening in the main story.

Same here as my Orlesian Warden is my favorite one. I really want to incorporate him into the lore of the DA world, past what was possible solely in Awakening. 

[Dr. wonderful]

Make it so, Bioware.

[Maclimes]

ChaosAgentLoki wrote...

Feanor_II wrote...

Support.

I "need" a way to incorporate my Orlessian Warden from Awakening in the main story.

Same here as my Orlesian Warden is my favorite one. I really want to incorporate him into the lore of the DA world, past what was possible solely in Awakening. 

This, I feel, is one of the strongest arguments for an "official" save game importer/creator. Fixing that weird gap between DA:O and DA:A.

Theoretically speaking, there should be three possibilities:
1 - YOUR Ferelden Hero does the Ultimate Sacrifice, YOUR Orlesian gets sent to Vigil's Keep.
2 - YOUR Ferelden Hero wanders off, YOUR Orlesian gets sent to Vigil's Keep.
3 - YOUR Ferelden Hero gets sent to Vigil's Keep.

However, in the current setup, there's only two options:
1 - YOUR Ferelden Hero gets sent to Vigil's Keep, even if they're dead.
2 - DEFAULT Ferelden Hero does the Ultimate Sacrifice, YOUR Orlesian gets sent to Vigil's Keep. 

Neither of those are good. My system would fix that.

Modifié par Maclimes, 19 septembre 2012 - 10:31 .

[ReallyRue]

This is a fantastic idea, I really hope Bioware reads it and uses it. Not only would it solve any import problems and refresh your memory of what your old characters did, it would solve many appearance problems if your Warden/Hawke make a cameo in DA3. And if the new game has race options, it's not even like you'd need a special character creator for Warden elves/dwarves. You'd just utilise that.

It would be resources well spent.

Edit: I really like the idea of a book layout too. These characters are supposed to be famous legends. Makes sense there would be books about their exploits.

Modifié par ReallyRue, 19 septembre 2012 - 10:38 .

[Zkyire]

Fully support.

If decisions carry over (as much as I love the Dragon Age series), I don't want to have to go all the way back and play Origins, Awakening and DA2 just to have a different DA3 playthrough each time.

[Heimdall]

This would be fantastic but I personally have my doubts of it ever happening.

[Most Definitely Sane]

I really hope it does happen.

Didn't one of the developers mention wanting to do something like this?

[berelinde]

Lord Aesir wrote...

This would be fantastic but I personally have my doubts of it ever happening.

Oddly enough, I am hopeful that it might. It is an elegant solution to a problem that has plagued every game with the potential to import saves.

Pros:
- Works on any platform
- Can be customized to include every relevant import flag
- Serves as a synopsis for people joining the party late
- Could theoretically be combined with a character creator, allowing the player to import the newly created character with the save
- Clear, easy to understand, and easy to use
- Does not rely on downloading anybody else's (potentially dubious) save

Cons:
- Has the potential to spoil some parts of DA:O and DA2.

[ReallyRue]

berelinde wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

This would be fantastic but I personally have my doubts of it ever happening.

Oddly enough, I am hopeful that it might. It is an elegant solution to a problem that has plagued every game with the potential to import saves.

Pros:
- Works on any platform
- Can be customized to include every relevant import flag
- Serves as a synopsis for people joining the party late
- Could theoretically be combined with a character creator, allowing the player to import the newly created character with the save
- Clear, easy to understand, and easy to use
- Does not rely on downloading anybody else's (potentially dubious) save

Cons:
- Has the potential to spoil some parts of DA:O and DA2.

Yep. There are so many reasons to do it, and so few reasons not to. It will also help people enjoy the game more, because they won't be worrying about dodgy import flags, or get frustrated when Isabela turns up and offers to sleep with you when she was romanced. Or something equally annoying, like Anders being alive when you killed him or dead when you spared him.

Must keep this on the front page so a dev will see.

[rhouston1981]

I support this.