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[Palipride47]

ImperatorMortis wrote...

I don't see the big deal with Cullen he's just like.. Whatever.

iPoohCupCakes wrote...

I don't really find Cullen that interesting, I just want him for his body...

You mean the body model that every human male NPC has?

Right? Pretty sure that Emile De Launcet kid has the same body. 
Emile as LI!

[Masha Potato]

Filament wrote...

You're free to interpret it however you want, but I think you're jumping through hoops to reach that conclusion just to fit your narrative about him.

That argument works both ways

[iSignIn]

Filament wrote...

iSignIn wrote...
Haha! No. He's just smart enough to not side with the loosing side. Not after my Hawke, Merrill, Anders & Varric crushed more than half of Meredith's Templars like ants.

You're free to interpret it however you want, but I think you're jumping through hoops to reach that conclusion just to fit your narrative about him.

Well if that's jumping through hoops then I'm a circus performer. I always try to understand people from the point of view of economics and evolution rather than beliefs and sentiments. To me it's much more likely for everyone, not just Cullen, to act out of self-preservation and maximization-of-gain rather than religious fervor or a sense of justice. Unless the person is out of their mind, like Meredith.

Modifié par iSignIn, 27 octobre 2012 - 02:23 .

[ImperatorMortis]

If I can be a blood mage or shape shifter and freak Cullen out whenever I use my magic then I can support him on my team.

Also if he is a companion I fully expect him to betray me at some point. Can't trust drug addicts ya know. It would be hilarious if he was reduced to begging/stealing my money for lyrium.

Also isn't Lyrium supposed to cause severe mutations after a while?

Modifié par ImperatorMortis, 27 octobre 2012 - 02:25 .

[Masha Potato]

Filament wrote...

Not really, the outward perception is that what he's doing is noble, I'm not the one bending over backwards to see his hidden selfish intentions.

Isn't it kind of subjective? My first thought was that he just didn't think he'll be able to stop Hawke or whatever. And there was no bending backwards involved

[Eveangaline]

Karlone123 wrote...

Considering how extreme he can be on Mages, girls still love him and want him. Why is this?

Not all women are pro-mage?

even if they are, I doubt most people want only companions that agree with them

Modifié par Eveangaline, 27 octobre 2012 - 02:43 .

[SeptimusMagistos]

Filament wrote...
such as being pro-mage fanatics and seeing something he said one time as being sufficiently anti-mage as to warrant his death.

I'm sorry, but "[group X] aren't people like you and me" or "you can't treat [group X]" like people are automatic death signals for me.

I was actually very surprised when I didn't get the chance to kill Cullen after that.

[Palipride47]

Eveangaline wrote...

Karlone123 wrote...

Considering how extreme he can be on Mages, girls still love him and want him. Why is this?

Not all women are pro-mage?

even if they are, I doubt most people want only companions that agree with them

Some women *shock* actually side with the TEMPLARS!

Even worse, some women actually do stab the mage formally-voiced-by-Greg-Ellis. 



But when he started saying my sister and I shouldn't be treated like people, I was done.

Modifié par Palipride47, 27 octobre 2012 - 03:00 .

[Masha Potato]

Filament wrote...
I dunno, you're still relying on your interpretation of his actions rather than the reason he gives in his own words. I'm not saying people never lie, but I really see no reason not to take him at his word. Meredith isn't some pushover to be contradicted lightly, even without the idol.

I never said the interpretion is invalid, but I still think it's a stretch.

Wait no, i meant the moment when he steps back and lets Hawke go and doesn't really say anything. The part when he asks Meredith to step down is pretty clear, it just doesn't seem all that impressive. Considering the fact that he doesn't care about killing everyone in the Circle for Anders' crime and only interrupts when your important ass is about to get attacked - that doesn't strike me as particularly fair or just. That is however perfectly in agreement with his previous characterization , so i believe i get a pretty good picture of what sort of character he is  and we're totally not cool. 

But hey, i suffered through Carthgate, i can take pretty much anything.

[bleetman]

CULLEN!

*Shakes fists in air*

[Wolfspawn]

I made a thread some considered a hate thread. In reality, I simply wondered why fans loved him so much, while coming across as an ass. I was grumpy, and I forgive all I offended.
Now to express my opinion in a MUCH more polite way than before.
Cullen hasn't served a purpose yet. When he serves a purpose, he'll probably be much more likable. I won't romance him or anything, even when the option presents itself, but I'll be his good buddy. However, if he does become a zealot, I will kill him. Sorry.
AH'LL BE BAWK.
Or not. I dunno.

Modifié par bob_20000, 27 octobre 2012 - 03:39 .

[Dave of Canada]

 I'd say more than Anders and Nate had after Awakening, his character's potential is interesting. The most common complaint I see is "HE HATES MAGES" but somehow that's supposed to make him not be a companion?

[CuriousArtemis]

Palipride47 wrote...

ImperatorMortis wrote...

I don't see the big deal with Cullen he's just like.. Whatever.

iPoohCupCakes wrote...

I don't really find Cullen that interesting, I just want him for his body...

You mean the body model that every human male NPC has?

Right? Pretty sure that Emile De Launcet kid has the same body. 
Emile as LI!

Also, Gamlen 

But, Gamlen's body with Cullen's head on it 

[esper]

Filament wrote...

Masha Potato wrote...

Isn't it kind of subjective? My first thought was that he just didn't think he'll be able to stop Hawke or whatever. And there was no bending backwards involved

I dunno, you're still relying on your interpretation of his actions rather than the reason he gives in his own words. I'm not saying people never lie, but I really see no reason not to take him at his word. Meredith isn't some pushover to be contradicted lightly, even without the idol.

I never said the interpretion is invalid, but I still think it's a stretch.

He never gives a reason for switching sides other than 'I thought we were supposed to arrest the champion'. For pro-templars play through that means he would be willing to arrest a person who did nothing but help them. For pro-mage it means he is willing to kill all those innocent circle mages who had nada to do with the bomb, but not willing to arrest the person who has been killing templars left and right to get out.

Add that to the fact that my Hawke personally had been nothing but rude to him, been publicly pro-mage, was a blood mage, had Merrill on the team who was a blood mage, had Anders on the team who did blow up the chantry. Seeing him as anything other than a man who has realized that his superior has gone insane and likely will be coming for him next, would be bending backwards over to make him a 'knight in shining armor' for me.

[Chanda]

I like Cullen, but I have to say that in DA2 he looked like he wasn't getting enough sleep. He had some dark under-eyes going on. Or maybe that's lyrium-induced dark circling, because Greagoir had it pretty badly, too.

Anyway, I did a search for Cullen and can't find any other Cullen threads that seem supportive of him, except for this one... Most the others are locked. And I need a place to love on Cullen.

[cJohnOne]

Chanda wrote...

I like Cullen, but I have to say that in DA2 he looked like he wasn't getting enough sleep. He had some dark under-eyes going on. Or maybe that's lyrium-induced dark circling, because Greagoir had it pretty badly, too.

Anyway, I did a search for Cullen and can't find any other Cullen threads that seem supportive of him, except for this one... Most the others are locked. And I need a place to love on Cullen.

What there's a Cullen thread in the DA2 companion section.

[Chanda]

cJohnOne wrote...

Chanda wrote...

I like Cullen, but I have to say that in DA2 he looked like he wasn't getting enough sleep. He had some dark under-eyes going on. Or maybe that's lyrium-induced dark circling, because Greagoir had it pretty badly, too.

Anyway, I did a search for Cullen and can't find any other Cullen threads that seem supportive of him, except for this one... Most the others are locked. And I need a place to love on Cullen.

What there's a Cullen thread in the DA2 companion section.

Oh, could you please post a link to it? I was looking for it in the DA3 section.

[cJohnOne]

I can't link. Maybe someone else will do it for you.

[Rinshikai10]

@chanda

Just go to the main forum page and scroll down to the DA2 section its almost always being posted on. Hope this helps.

Modifié par Rinshikai10, 20 mai 2013 - 08:51 .

[BouncyFrag]

motomotogirl wrote...

Palipride47 wrote...

ImperatorMortis wrote...

I don't see the big deal with Cullen he's just like.. Whatever.

iPoohCupCakes wrote...

I don't really find Cullen that interesting, I just want him for his body...

You mean the body model that every human male NPC has?

Right? Pretty sure that Emile De Launcet kid has the same body. 
Emile as LI!

Also, Gamlen 

But, Gamlen's body with Cullen's head on it 

GamlenAllThings.jpg