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[xeNNN]

El_Chala_Legalizado wrote...

So...
People are freaking out beacuse the brother of X guy said that he was told by someone that has nothing to do with writing that one ending is canon?

Sorry, but I can't take this seriously.

In almost all sequels of an rpg, a canon ending is chosen, sometimes is a specific one, others is just a mix of all of them...
And when someone ask in the game, they'll say "it was a long time ago, dunno the details".
A sequel of ME3 will not be an exception to this.

About sythesis: It will be there in some form, after all, it's the so called "peak of evolution" that will happen sooner or later.
But this doesn't mean that it will be the same syntesis of ME3, maybe some of them are "hybrid" and others not or it will be merely mentioned somewhere in the codex as a theory/project of a random scientist.

finally someone with a brain has actually posted, too many people ready to judge and go over the top with everything urgh cant even have a real discussion anymore.

[atheelogos]

well it it happened I would be happy. I'm one of the few around here that loves the synthesis ending

[wright1978]

Xandurpein wrote...

To be fair, it does make sense. Logically, it's the only way to write a sequel without invalidating any choice. I hated the Synthesis ending in the game, but that's more because of how Synthesis is forced onto the galaxy, than the idea of synthesis as such. If anything, I would feel even more justified in choosing Destroy, if I knew that the Galaxy would have time to prepare for a Synthesis evolution and implement it in a way that is not forcing it, a few generations into the future. As I see it, the only justification for choosing Synthesis at all, rests on the "it's now or never" argument, and that argument would be negated if Synthesis is bound to happen anyway.

No it invalidates all endings. Just choose a default ending for future games rather than mangle the variety of choices in ME3.

[Samtheman63]

atheelogos wrote...

well it it happened I would be happy. I'm one of the few around here that loves the synthesis ending

let me get this straight, you have for the last few years been working towards destroying the reapers.

then when presented with the chance to do so you change your mind, acting on the advice of the AI (who controlls the reapers (who have been trying to kill you the entire game)), and instead choose "synthesis", basically turning everyone into organic/synthetic hybrids, which is basically a form of what the reapers are.

why may i ask?

[AlanC9]

Samtheman63 wrote...

let me get this straight, you have for the last few years been working towards destroying the reapers.

What does that have to do with anything? A plan is either a good idea or it isn't. How long you've been trying to execute the plan isn't relevant.

Modifié par AlanC9, 21 septembre 2012 - 11:53 .

[Samtheman63]

AlanC9 wrote...

Samtheman63 wrote...

let me get this straight, you have for the last few years been working towards destroying the reapers.

What does that have to do with anything? A plan is either a good idea or it isn't. How long you've been trying to execute the plan isn't relevant.

i see what you mean, but if youve been trying to do something for 2 years compared to 2 minutes, you might be slightly more motivated to get it done, and more convinced that its a good/right plan

now answer the second question

[atheelogos]

Samtheman63 wrote...

atheelogos wrote...

well it it happened I would be happy. I'm one of the few around here that loves the synthesis ending

let me get this straight, you have for the last few years been working towards destroying the reapers.

then when presented with the chance to do so you change your mind, acting on the advice of the AI (who controlls the reapers (who have been trying to kill you the entire game)), and instead choose "synthesis", basically turning everyone into organic/synthetic hybrids, which is basically a form of what the reapers are.

why may i ask?

"
you have for the last few years been working towards destroying the reapers" No I have been working to save as many lives as possible. The Reapers were forced to kill they didn't choose to. Those actions were forced upon them by the Catalyst.

When choosing Synthesis I free the Reapers from the Cataylst controls( and once they're free to act on there own the first thing they do is help rebuild. Isn't that interesting? Maybe they're not as bad as people think)

I redeem my enemies by giving my own life.

And I save/upgrade every organic in the galaxy. Plus I insure that future conflicts with synthetics won't happen.

Everyone that can be saved is saved. That's why I do it.

[AlanC9]

Samtheman63 wrote...

i see what you mean, but if youve been trying to do something for 2 years compared to 2 minutes, you might be slightly more motivated to get it done, and more convinced that its a good/right plan

Fair enough. If you haven't got perfect information, I can see having a bias in favor of earlier plans.

now answer the second question

Well, I'm a Control fan myself, so I can't. 

[plfranke]

Estebanus is a troll in case you guys didn't know anyway so I really don't know why this was looked into so much. He;s some guy pretending to be his sister who claims to like IT yet asked no questions about it when given the opportunity. The only information he got was that Synthesis is canon, and this has yet to be said publicly by any bioware employee. Obvious troll is obvious, move along.

[Dendio1]

Now that levvy introduces star kid mid game, the conflict between synthetics and organics is both validated and something you consider for more than the previous last 2 mins of the game.

For the past 2 games your goal was trying to figure out a way to prevent the reapers from arriving, then it became stop the reapers once they arrived. Destroying them is simply one method of stopping them ( as Tim tries to explain to you all game long)

Synthesis is the disney ending. Edi would have said otherwise if it werent. devs are on record saying there is a truce between organics and synthetics.

I chose destroy because my shepard needed a personal happy ending. rip edi

control=dying and leaving the galaxy under well intentioned tyranny

Modifié par Dendio1, 22 septembre 2012 - 02:41 .

[atheelogos]

plfranke wrote...

Estebanus is a troll in case you guys didn't know anyway so I really don't know why this was looked into so much. He;s some guy pretending to be his sister who claims to like IT yet asked no questions about it when given the opportunity. The only information he got was that Synthesis is canon, and this has yet to be said publicly by any bioware employee. Obvious troll is obvious, move along.

yeah he has no evidence, but it's interesting to talk about none the less

[atheelogos]

Catastrophe__ wrote...

Synthesis is the best ending anyway. It's about the deep wish to ascend beyond mortality and given boundaries. Perfect harmony and peace, without having to fear anything. Literally becoming gods.

well said:)

[Dendio1]

atheelogos wrote...

Catastrophe__ wrote...

Synthesis is the best ending anyway. It's about the deep wish to ascend beyond mortality and given boundaries. Perfect harmony and peace, without having to fear anything. Literally becoming gods.

well said:)

They just need to keep shep alive and i'll consider it

[Fingertrip]

Catastrophe__ wrote...

Synthesis is the best ending anyway. It's about the deep wish to ascend beyond mortality and given boundaries. Perfect harmony and peace, without having to fear anything. Literally becoming gods.

Don't say stuff like that, you're bringing in the IT fanatics who will say synthesis means you turn people into husk, which is obviously not true, given the epilogue of pictures in Extended Cut. But they're going to say it's all a dream.

LOL

[atheelogos]

Fingertrip wrote...

Catastrophe__ wrote...

Synthesis is the best ending anyway. It's about the deep wish to ascend beyond mortality and given boundaries. Perfect harmony and peace, without having to fear anything. Literally becoming gods.

Don't say stuff like that, you're bringing in the IT fanatics who will say synthesis means you turn people into husk, which is obviously not true, given the epilogue of pictures in Extended Cut. But they're going to say it's all a dream.

LOL

lmao:lol:

[atheelogos]

Dendio1 wrote...

atheelogos wrote...

Catastrophe__ wrote...

Synthesis is the best ending anyway. It's about the deep wish to ascend beyond mortality and given boundaries. Perfect harmony and peace, without having to fear anything. Literally becoming gods.

well said:)

They just need to keep shep alive and i'll consider it

Yeah I still don't know why shep had to die in that ending....

[o Ventus]

Catastrophe__ wrote...

Synthesis is the best ending anyway. It's about the deep wish to ascend beyond mortality and given boundaries. Perfect harmony and peace, without having to fear anything. Literally becoming gods.

That's one reason why it's awful.

[RiouHotaru]

Except it's not really that awful.

[o Ventus]

RiouHotaru wrote...

Except it's not really that awful.

Yeah, how dare I think of something in a negative light?

[iSousek]

We dont really know anything about Synthesis, so most of you who are saying how great/terrible it is are just making assumptions.

[iSousek]

atheelogos wrote...

you have for the last few years been working towards destroying the reapers" No I have been working to save as many lives as possible. The Reapers were forced to kill they didn't choose to. Those actions were forced upon them by the Catalyst.

 

They were not forced into doing it the same way your hand isn't forced into typing. Catalyst was the intelligence behind the reapers. They were his instruments, not his slaves.

atheelogos wrote... 

When choosing Synthesis I free the Reapers from the Cataylst controls( and once they're free to act on there own the first thing they do is help rebuild. Isn't that interesting? Maybe they're not as bad as people think)

  

They help rebuild because they are now part of the collective that was created through synthesis. Not because they are sorry or feel bad for their past actions. Nor it's because they suddenly have "free will"

As it seems right now, synthesis violates every form of pluralism known to man. That's the reason why Synthesis is hideous, not only as the starting concept but also as the final result.

[Fingertrip]

iSousek wrote...

We dont really know anything about Synthesis, so most of you who are saying how great/terrible it is are just making assumptions.

Did we play the same game? <_<

[Ieldra]

iSousek wrote...
As it seems right now, synthesis violates every form of pluralism known to man. That's the reason why Synthesis is hideous, not only as the starting concept but also as the final result.

There is zero evidence for such a claim. The only difference lessened is the one between organics and synthetics. Everyone else - every organic that is - has gained the means to integrate technology but remains otherwise the same. Just watch the epilogue.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 22 septembre 2012 - 05:13 .

[Fingertrip]

Ieldra2 wrote...

iSousek wrote...
As it seems right now, synthesis violates every form of pluralism known to man. That's the reason why Synthesis is hideous, not only as the starting concept but also as the final result.

There is zero evidence for such a claim. The only difference lessened is the one between organics and synthetics. Everyone else - every organic that is - has gained the means to integrate technology but remains otherwise the same. Just watch the epilogue.

Don't be silly, Synthesis means you become an abomination, rather than a perfect organism in harmony with other organism in the galaxy. zomg zomg so much terrible comes from it.

Also, you turn into Husk- I don't know how, but appearantly you do! zomg zomg