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[The Twilight God]

Luxure wrote...

Oh, Synthesis can't be canon. It just can't. Jessica was kidding, or that esteban dude.

She said that synthesis would occur at some point. Not that the synthesis ending is where the franchise would continue from. The synthesis ending has everyone indoctrinated so it can't be the one to go forward with. People with cybernetics doesn't equal reaper imposed synthesis.

[Bourne Endeavor]

Headcount wrote...

Has Bioware released the gaming stats for ME3? I'm curious which ending the majority of gamers went with.

If this forum is any indication. Destroy would be leading by a landslide, and I bet they know it. So no. They do not want to harm their favorite ending.

[GarvakD]

How about this...no canon ending.
Solved. For the most part.  

If synthesis becomes canon ending I will be ridiculously, unreasonably, furious.  This can't be true anyway, right?  She said things before that didn't end up true.  

Modifié par GarvakD, 24 septembre 2012 - 03:32 .

[halbert986]

"I know a guy who said he heard someone say this" is not compelling evidence.

If it is at some point confirmed by Bioware, then this series is dead to me.

[Display Name Owner]

If they're to have a canon ending, Synthesis makes the least sense. The whole point of Synthesis was that it lead to some incredible utopian society, leading to a future beyond anything we could even imagine. How are they going to make a game out of that? They can't satisfactorily portray an unimaginable future, and in a society where there are no differences between people, and there is no struggle or suffering or conflict, then what exactly is the story even going to be?

Synthesis is supposed to be about going "to infinity, and beyond!", so just leave it at that.

Destroy makes more sense. Control could work too, but the point is that the Reapers rebuilt everything before they left, so galactic society doesn't go anywhere different. It just picks up and carries on. With Destroy, people have had to rebuild everything the Reapers destroyed, by themselves. They have Reaper tech to salvage, and they have a chance to do things differently, so it's a chance to see a new world. It makes making a new game much more worthwhile.

Modifié par isnudo, 24 septembre 2012 - 02:33 .

[Morty Smith]

IsaacShep wrote...

Ohh now this looks like a 100% confirmation.

Except not.

You serious with these threads guys? With all due respect to Jessica, she said other things after ME3 release that didn't turn out true. Plus she said herself that she interprets things herself. So really

That´s why I follow my cat on twitter.

Ser Hampipoo is as credible and also just adorable.

Yes you are Ser Hampipoopipoo, aww soooo cute.

[ATiBotka]

The Twilight God wrote...

Luxure wrote...

Oh, Synthesis can't be canon. It just can't. Jessica was kidding, or that esteban dude.

The synthesis ending has everyone indoctrinated

Really? 

[Grubas]

If they go with a story past the reaperwar, they might aswell create a completely new franchise. Because this is the degree to which Synthesis affects everything.

[Big I]

Grubas wrote...
If they go with a story past the reaperwar, they might aswell create a completely new franchise. Because this is the degree to which Synthesis affects everything.

All that happens is that organics are cyborgs now and synthetics understand why they do the things they do. Unless the Reapers give everyone unlimited access to their technology it's not that hard to pick up from there.


While I didn't pick Synthesis and never will, I'd accept a ME that started with everyone having adopted cybernetic implants of their own free will.

[Gorguz]

Op, if you want to take a dump, you try to unload all the **** you can right? This is what bioware is doing. We got just the first turd.

[Grubas]

LookingGlass93 wrote...

Grubas wrote...
If they go with a story past the reaperwar, they might aswell create a completely new franchise. Because this is the degree to which Synthesis affects everything.

All that happens is that organics are cyborgs now and synthetics understand why they do the things they do. Unless the Reapers give everyone unlimited access to their technology it's not that hard to pick up from there.


While I didn't pick Synthesis and never will, I'd accept a ME that started with everyone having adopted cybernetic implants of their own free will.

The synthetic vs organic conflict is over. See it like a huge geth consensus everyone has access to.  Peace harmony and understanding prevails. Even the Reapers "cough" are our friends "cough". 

[RiouHotaru]

atheelogos wrote...

The Grey Nayr wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

If this is true then why even give us the three choices? What's the point of these choices if merge is going to happen anyways?

*sigh*

Maybe because synthesis could arguably take millions of years to achieve conventionally?

"Now that we know it is possible, it is inevitable that we will reach synthesis"

They say it right in the game man. The difference between the three choices is whether or not you let synthesis come when it is ready, or you force it to come early.

Your not forcing it to come early as the Cataylst says "You are ready"

It's right on time. The difference is letting it come on time or doing it late.

This.  The inevitability of Synthesis is in the fact that since the Catalyst now knows that it's possible to be achieved, that it WILL happen.  And he states the reason why.  "Can you imagine living without them?"  There's plenty of science fiction out there which toys with transhumanism in the future, so it's not an outlandish possibility.  The only reason people seem to dislike it is because it's the Catalyst telling you it will happen.

The integration of technology and organic life into a new being is a logical next step when you think of the development and research of technology.  There's already people working on nano-machines as a medical treatment for various ailments.  Is it really so far fetched that the technology might move from just medical treatment and into other uses and utilities?

Synthesis merely makes it possible NOW.

[paul165]

RiouHotaru wrote...

atheelogos wrote...

The Grey Nayr wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

If this is true then why even give us the three choices? What's the point of these choices if merge is going to happen anyways?

*sigh*

Maybe because synthesis could arguably take millions of years to achieve conventionally?

"Now that we know it is possible, it is inevitable that we will reach synthesis"

They say it right in the game man. The difference between the three choices is whether or not you let synthesis come when it is ready, or you force it to come early.

Your not forcing it to come early as the Cataylst says "You are ready"

It's right on time. The difference is letting it come on time or doing it late.

This.  The inevitability of Synthesis is in the fact that since the Catalyst now knows that it's possible to be achieved, that it WILL happen.  And he states the reason why.  "Can you imagine living without them?"  There's plenty of science fiction out there which toys with transhumanism in the future, so it's not an outlandish possibility.  The only reason people seem to dislike it is because it's the Catalyst telling you it will happen.

The integration of technology and organic life into a new being is a logical next step when you think of the development and research of technology.  There's already people working on nano-machines as a medical treatment for various ailments.  Is it really so far fetched that the technology might move from just medical treatment and into other uses and utilities?

Synthesis merely makes it possible NOW.

Yes cybernetic implants is fine and enhanced empathy with synthetics is fine. But the weird creepy not quite hive mind thing? the machine hybrid grass and the mutated armour? If that's an inevitable consequence of using the catalyst then I guess I vote for refusal.

My main problem with synthesis is not transhumanism - one of my favourite SF series is the Culture after all but the bizarre decision to have it affect everything:- animate or inanimate, sentient or not, consenting or not. I just can't beleive people think that it's inevitable that one day everyone will decide the galaxy really needs cybernetic grass.

[Shermos]

My only objection to Synthesis is that Shepard is forcing a decision which may not even be necessary. There's a difference between using nano machines and changing the basis of our DNA. Synthesis makes me think the galaxy is losing a lot of diversity and I don't want that to happen.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Shermos wrote...

My only objection to Synthesis is that Shepard is forcing a decision which may not even be necessary. There's a difference between using nano machines and changing the basis of our DNA. Synthesis makes me think the galaxy is losing a lot of diversity and I don't want that to happen.

How so? Everyone is still the same as they were before, just synthesized.

[dorktainian]

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

Shermos wrote...

My only objection to Synthesis is that Shepard is forcing a decision which may not even be necessary. There's a difference between using nano machines and changing the basis of our DNA. Synthesis makes me think the galaxy is losing a lot of diversity and I don't want that to happen.

How so? Everyone is still the same as they were before, just synthesized.

Synthetic Trees

Synthetic Insects

Synthetic Bacteria

Synthetic Food

Diversity gone forever

Everyone reaperised.

No consultation.

[Fedi.St]

LDS I've told you before. THIS IS MASS EFFECT UNIVERSE. There is a technology lore which everything is based on. Synthesis end canot happen based on that technology lore. there are no evidences that it can happen.

[Oransel]

Synthesis is not ideal, unlike many would say. It's the same problem with communism - it won't work. Impossible. Can't happen and the closest you get turns into nightmare (project Overlord style or final mission of Deus Ex: HR if you played it) just as closest thing we got to communism are either GULAG or dysfunctional nation. No it can't happen in ME Universe, that's it. However, this rumour is not concerning me, I am done with Mass Effect until they remove starbrat from existence.

[InTheZone]

Has BW confirmed this??

[SpamBot2000]

InTheZone wrote...

Has BW confirmed this??

Nope.

[XqctaX]

KENNY4753 wrote...

if they make synthesis canon they will lose half of their fanbase of the people who haven't left them already.

i think they would loose more than half. but yeah your right

[InTheZone]

LOL, a 19 page thread on heresay!

[Fedi.St]

inthezone this is the actual place which synthesis can be discussed without the synthesizers trolling and cursing on anyone who doesn't understand what they say.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

dorktainian wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

Shermos wrote...

My only objection to Synthesis is that Shepard is forcing a decision which may not even be necessary. There's a difference between using nano machines and changing the basis of our DNA. Synthesis makes me think the galaxy is losing a lot of diversity and I don't want that to happen.

How so? Everyone is still the same as they were before, just synthesized.

Synthetic Trees

Synthetic Insects

Synthetic Bacteria

Synthetic Food

Diversity gone forever

Everyone reaperised.

No consultation.

 The Turians are still turians, Krogan are still krogan, Hanar are still hanar, etc. I don't get this "no diversity" argument.

[Charles Rosemberg]

If they make Synthesis the canon ending i'm not buying Mass Effect 4