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[Ridwan]

Drones don't know how to be happy, that's why.

[D24O]

Because they're indoctrinated.

[DarkArchville]

Well, I certainly wouldn't be cheering if I was suddenly turned into a creepy green-eyed cyborg, either.

[ElSuperGecko]

They're all listening to the radio station that plays in their teeth.

There's only one song. On a constant loop.

It goes "BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARP"...

[Clayless]

Ranger Jack Walker wrote...

HiddenInWar wrote...

Has no one read my comment about EDI having emotions and trascending her synthetic form?

They're too caught up in their own headcanon to listen.

Ignoring facts is easy when they are this deluded.

Welcome to BSN.

Anyway the reaction in Synthesis is just a realistic response.

[RiptideX1090]

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

Ranger Jack Walker wrote...

HiddenInWar wrote...

Has no one read my comment about EDI having emotions and trascending her synthetic form?

They're too caught up in their own headcanon to listen.

Ignoring facts is easy when they are this deluded.

Welcome to BSN.

Anyway the reaction in Synthesis is just a realistic response.

I will note that transcendence by merging synthetics and organics is a Reaper notion, which only supports the idea that EDI is in fact indotrinated.

[katcrave]

They've transcended such petty emotions as joy.

[Ranger Jack Walker]

They don't cheer because they're confused. This would be the normal reaction to synthesis. This alone completely disproves any brain washing theory. If they were brain washed and their emotions were removed, then they wouldn't react at all. But they clearly react to as any being would. With confusion.

[RiptideX1090]

Ranger Jack Walker wrote...

They don't cheer because they're confused. This would be the normal reaction to synthesis. This alone completely disproves any brain washing theory. If they were brain washed and their emotions were removed, then they wouldn't react at all. But they clearly react to as any being would. With confusion.

Indoctrination does not turn one into a mindless husk, not right away, at least. It makes the person believe what the Reapers are about is good, such as exhibited by Kenson and Saren. The idea that all of the people are indoctrinated isn't that they're all mindless husks, it's that they now believe in the Reapers ideals.

EDI herself starts going on about transcendence, immortality, ect. These are Reaper ideals. EDI didn't care bout Imortality before. In fact, before Synthesis, EDI claimed the exact opposite, that she valued her mortality in that she would gladly give her life for someone, like Jeff, that being devoted to nothing but self-preservation was a Reaper idea and repugnant.

In other Words, EDI is acting completely out of character. She's talking more like a Reaper.

Modifié par RiptideX1090, 20 septembre 2012 - 01:41 .

[HiddenInWar]

DarkArchville wrote...

Well, I certainly wouldn't be cheering if I was suddenly turned into a creepy green-eyed cyborg, either.

 

An immortal cyborg.

Check mate.

[brummyuk19]

GT Zazzerka wrote...

They've stopped reaping, but they haven't been blown up or run away.

I'd be suspicious too.

If an enemy I was fighting just suddenly stopped, my reaction would be more 'what the f*ck' than happiness.

]

In Synthisis, both organics and synthetics are joined, able to understand each other. It's quite possible as soon as they were changed, they realised the reapers intent was no longer hostile.

[Wayning_Star]

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Ranger Jack Walker wrote...

They don't cheer because they're confused. This would be the normal reaction to synthesis. This alone completely disproves any brain washing theory. If they were brain washed and their emotions were removed, then they wouldn't react at all. But they clearly react to as any being would. With confusion.

Indoctrination does not turn one into a mindless husk, not right away, at least. It makes the person believe what the Reapers are about is good, such as exhibited by Kenson and Saren. The idea that all of the people are indoctrinated isn't that they're all mindless husks, it's that they now believe in the Reapers ideals.

EDI herself starts going on about transcendence, immortality, ect. These are Reaper ideals. EDI didn't care bout Imortality before. In fact, before Synthesis, EDI claimed the exact opposite, that she valued her mortality in that she would gladly give her life for someone, like Jeff, that being devoted to nothing but self-preservation was a Reaper idea and repugnant.

In other Words, EDI is acting completely out of character. She's talking more like a Reaper.

what is meant by 'we are nations, independent'? and then, what is "a Reaper idea"?  No one knows how they think or how their society exists. No one but Shep can even communicate with one, or especially the catalyst... something weird about that, and no, it doesn't prove the IT.

It onl proves that nobody knows, so really, noone really knows what is indoctrination, other than the general definition and examples given by codex/lore and Saren/TIM et al... who, by the way,are actuallly indoctrinated, but don't explain the experience completely.

There are no Shepards that actually knows what indoctrination is. Even the IT crowd who insist that all Shepard are indoctrinated.

One thing is for sure tho, you cannot indoctrinate an Ai, you can assume control, if possible. Re-program, if applicable, but you cannot brain wash one.. they don't have the correct nervous system...the don't have a nervous system.

So, if indoctrination were in evidence, every Ai out ther on your side would instantly freak out and warn you of it. Thats why the Prothean Ai all were 'adjusted' to percieve it intensely..and when they did, what did they say to Shep about it, and what did they do? They blasted out warnings or scanned and noted that Shep wasn't indoctrinated,nor crewmates, as well. All Ai in the MEU are produced with or by reaper technology in one form or another, they would have technology advanced enough to require programming that would have safeguards to such intrusions of software, anti virus programs, firewalls..self improvements if sentient.

The only victims of brain washing might be the Shepards alter egos...

[Wayning_Star]

brummyuk19 wrote...

GT Zazzerka wrote...

They've stopped reaping, but they haven't been blown up or run away.

I'd be suspicious too.

If an enemy I was fighting just suddenly stopped, my reaction would be more 'what the f*ck' than happiness.

]

In Synthisis, both organics and synthetics are joined, able to understand each other. It's quite possible as soon as they were changed, they realised the reapers intent was no longer hostile.

they're able to communicate intimately. Not  so much physically 'joined'.. Like other posters have noticed, a hive mind of sorts, but without the lock in. Even the common intellect of all the reaperships(really just automated cache files for the catalyst) are exposed for examination at will. Pretty intense.. Makes ME4 almost impossible, to cover what that would mean tho, or how to invoke such a reality. As the green eyes treatment went over so well with all the Sheps.

""" Sheps, as in all players are part of that "hive". """"

[The Spamming Troll]

i thought i saw one of the synth-husks raise one of his eyebrows.

kindof gave the look like, "oh, im alive now! wellp peace out im gonna hit up the clubs."

i think he ran off with his arms thrown up in the air. idk if thats becasue he was celebrating, or just continuing on with his day.

[Andy the Black]

The same reason no one cheers when they see the Cybermen or the Borg rock up.

[Dendio1]

I found this interesting as well as the fact that there is no good/bad ending...synthesis is synthesis

[Dendio1]

The Spamming Troll wrote...

i thought i saw one of the synth-husks raise one of his eyebrows.

kindof gave the look like, "oh, im alive now! wellp peace out im gonna hit up the clubs."

i think he ran off with his arms thrown up in the air. idk if thats becasue he was celebrating, or just continuing on with his day.

I wonder if synthorganics are now buddies with husks and other reaper spawns

[The Spamming Troll]

Dendio1 wrote...

The Spamming Troll wrote...

i thought i saw one of the synth-husks raise one of his eyebrows.

kindof gave the look like, "oh, im alive now! wellp peace out im gonna hit up the clubs."

i think he ran off with his arms thrown up in the air. idk if thats becasue he was celebrating, or just continuing on with his day.

I wonder if synthorganics are now buddies with husks and other reaper spawns

well someone needs to be playing bioware games in the future.

might as well be husks.

[Sailears]

Well, say one person's relative/friend was previously turned into a husk or smoothie... oh wait, nevermind, now that everyone is enhanced and green it doesn't matter - that friend is now an "enhanced" husk so they can be welcomed with open arms and we can all cheer!

[Wayning_Star]

The Spamming Troll wrote...

i thought i saw one of the synth-husks raise one of his eyebrows.

kindof gave the look like, "oh, im alive now! wellp peace out im gonna hit up the clubs."

i think he ran off with his arms thrown up in the air. idk if thats becasue he was celebrating, or just continuing on with his day.

They're just cyborgs..another race created by all the 'other' confusing circumstances. The med techs have their work cut out for them, apparently. We don't know the ratio of machine vs organics..so it'd be hard to tell. At least they're not hammering troops anymore..

I doubt the appearance of those and other reaper-ations would be much of biggy in the MEU.. considering the cultural diversity exhibited to date?

[Wayning_Star]

Curunen wrote...

Well, say one person's relative/friend was previously turned into a husk or smoothie... oh wait, nevermind, now that everyone is enhanced and green it doesn't matter - that friend is now an "enhanced" husk so they can be welcomed with open arms and we can all cheer!

Yeah, think of those billions of buddies all locked up in a reaper hull for eons..I bet they'd enjoy a good stretch.. but wait, they're just dead goo..so..too bad for them,eh?

[Ozida]

The Spamming Troll wrote...

i thought i saw one of the synth-husks raise one of his eyebrows.
kindof gave the look like, "oh, im alive now! wellp peace out im gonna hit up the clubs."
i think he ran off with his arms thrown up in the air. idk if thats becasue he was celebrating, or just continuing on with his day.

THIS is why BioWare developers should come to BSN more often. They are missing all the fun! Some comments are pure hilarious!  This hater is going to... laugh.

Modifié par Ozida, 20 septembre 2012 - 05:44 .

[Ruined the Franchise]

Nobody is cheering because they stopped thinking forward, they are now vessels of their former selves.
Programs stuck on repeat, they have no new responses to events after they were raped by a delusional Shepard.

[Wayning_Star]

The Spamming Troll wrote...

Dendio1 wrote...

The Spamming Troll wrote...

i thought i saw one of the synth-husks raise one of his eyebrows.

kindof gave the look like, "oh, im alive now! wellp peace out im gonna hit up the clubs."

i think he ran off with his arms thrown up in the air. idk if thats becasue he was celebrating, or just continuing on with his day.

I wonder if synthorganics are now buddies with husks and other reaper spawns

well someone needs to be playing bioware games in the future.

might as well be husks.

well TST, from the looks of these 'hater' posts, the growlings are getting rather obvious..tho..I have to wonder why the 'haters' stay on the BSN? Is there such a thing as "love to hate"? I wondered where the writers got the husks idea from..
 We may now know...