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[Maclimes]

 Just curious. I know DA3 is not about the Wardens, it's about the mage/templar civil war, and the role of the Inquisitors in that war, and I'm fine with that. I love the whole mythos of Thedas, and I'm glad we're getting to experience it from a wide variety of angles and perspectives. We don't need the Wardens to take center stage every single time there's a conflict.

But....

Man, I love me some Grey Wardens. Awakening proved that you can have an entire party made up of solely Grey Wardens, while still making the characters feel like unique, interesting characters. I'd love to see a game that delves back into the Grey Warden/Darkspawn conflict, and expound upon some of the startling revelations of DA:Awakening and DA2:Legacy.

Do we know if the long-term plans for the series involves a return to our Grey Warden "roots"? (Note, I am not asking for the Hero of Fereleden to come back. Just the Grey Wardens).

Note about Forum location: I'm aware this is not exactly DA3 related. But it's not exactly DA2 or DAO either. And it's not Off-Topic, either, in the scope of the way those forums are used. Perhaps a general board for each series (General Dragon Age, General Mass Effect, etc) would be helpful, so we'd have somewhere to put things like future speculation, table-top versions of settings, spin-offs, fanfic, and other oddities. 

[Plaintiff]

I don't really care, I guess, but I'd be happy if the Darkspawn were never the main focus of anohter Bioware game. There just isn't much interesting about them. They're a blindly destructive force.

[Maclimes]

Plaintiff wrote...

I don't really care, I guess, but I'd be happy if the Darkspawn were never the main focus of anohter Bioware game. There just isn't much interesting about them. They're a blindly destructive force.

I disagree. I think there's a lot of interesting tales to tell regarding the Darkspawn. There's the Old Gods, the new intelligent darkspawn, and the "first" darkspawn (like Corypheus), just off the top of my head.

I get the thrust of your comment: "Tell a good story, that's all that matters." And I tend to agree with that. But still, we have special place in our hearts for the Wardens, and I'm sure we'd love to see more of them.

[Emzamination]

I should hope not, I never want my protagonist to be sterile again.It really killed my Rp vibe, especially when it came to Alistair and the crown.

[Jackums]

I'm more interested in the Darkspawn and Black City. I'm not particularly keen on another Grey Warden protagonist.

Either way, all of the latter topics pale in comparison to demons, Flemeth, and Morrigan, as far as areas of interest go.

Modifié par JackumsD, 20 septembre 2012 - 02:23 .

[wsandista]

Emzamination wrote...

I should hope not, I never want my protagonist to be sterile again.It really killed my Rp vibe, especially when it came to Alistair and the crown.

Wardens aren't sterile, remember that whole OGB thing? Also, how does being sterile hurt role-playing?

[EpicBoot2daFace]

What's the difference between the grey wardens and everyone else? The wardens can kill the archdemon. That's really it. I don't see the point of another warden adevnture. It wouldn't be any different than Origins. The wardens only go after the darkspawn. So, kill the darkspawn and the Archdemon... again.

No.

[sunnydxmen]

They should make light spawn they beautiful but evil they use there powers and beauty to enslave the world but they do it sneaky, they would have wings and a magical glow they tell the people they know how to get rid of darkspawn forever cause they have the power to purify dark spawn and those with the taint,though anyone purify by them is under there control they tell people that they will make a utopia that's just a lie to gain there trust. they tell them that there would there would be no war no misery no disease just peace and happiness as long as you give into there power an obey there rules which you will cause once you submit your there's forever ,and you will always smile even when there whipping you with a belt as you cry within your mind wandering how something so beautiful could be so evil.

[Emzamination]

wsandista wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

I should hope not, I never want my protagonist to be sterile again.It really killed my Rp vibe, especially when it came to Alistair and the crown.

Wardens aren't sterile, remember that whole OGB thing? Also, how does being sterile hurt role-playing?

The Ogb was born through magic.As far as normal wardens go, they only have a 1% chance at reproducing and even then it's ill advised.My warden couldn't give alistair a child so instead morrigan had to act as a surrogate mother, total turn off.

[Jerrybnsn]

The Grey Wardens were a perfect vehicle for experiencing the world of Thedas because they come from all walks of life. And I'm assuming the name "Grey" has a metaphorical meaning in that their morailty doesn't have to be based on right or wrong. That allows the player to walk whatever line they would like in their adventures.  Also, Wardens were created to save the world like knights in the Arthurian legends.  That's a good story.

And I would only be playing the DA series if I felt that there was a darkspawn/Black City overarching story going on. My interest in playing stand alone stories would wax and wane depending on the content. I could have skipped DA2 entirely.

Modifié par Jerrybnsn, 20 septembre 2012 - 02:32 .

[wsandista]

Emzamination wrote...

wsandista wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

I should hope not, I never want my protagonist to be sterile again.It really killed my Rp vibe, especially when it came to Alistair and the crown.

Wardens aren't sterile, remember that whole OGB thing? Also, how does being sterile hurt role-playing?

The Ogb was born through magic.

Really? I thought he was conceived by a witch haveing sex with a Warden, then said witch giving birth in the conventional manner.

My warden couldn't give alistair a child so instead morrigan had to act as a surrogate mother, total turn off.

How does that prevent role-playing? As far as I can tell, that prevents the PC from having a child with another character.

[Jerrybnsn]

wsandista wrote...

How does that prevent role-playing? As far as I can tell, that prevents the PC from having a child with another character.

If we are talking about Alistair and a female warden, then Alistair isn't like any warden with the taint.  His own mother is still alive and not succumbed to the calling because of what happened to her in the Deep Roads.  So, since it was said that Warden's could have children with other people, but almost impossible with other wardens, Alistair is the exception.

[EpicBoot2daFace]

Because some people treat it like real life and expect the game and all the rules of real life to apply to the game. They're the same people who create all these romance threads. They just want a interactive soap opera.

Modifié par EpicBoot2daFace, 20 septembre 2012 - 02:41 .

[Emzamination]

wsandista wrote...



Really? I thought he was conceived by a witch haveing sex with a Warden, then said witch giving birth in the conventional manner.

Neh, he was conceived through some magical sex rite ritual.

How does that prevent role-playing? As far as I can tell, that prevents the PC from having a child with another character.

Could you continue to be immersed watching another man impregnate your wife? If so, I'll say you have a stronger resolve than I.

Modifié par Emzamination, 20 septembre 2012 - 02:42 .

[Maclimes]

Emzamination wrote...

wsandista wrote...

Really? I thought he was conceived by a witch haveing sex with a Warden, then said witch giving birth in the conventional manner.

Neh, he was conceived through some magical sex rite ritual.

Incorrect. Gaider confirmed that if the Warden sleeps with Morrigan during the adventure, but does not perform the Dark Ritual, then she is still pregnant (as mentioned in the epilogue), but it is not the so-called "Old God Baby". So clearly, the Warden was able to get her pregnant without the magic ritual.

[wsandista]

Emzamination wrote...

Neh, he was conceived through some magical sex rite ritual.

Source?

Could you continue to be immersed watching another man impregnate your wife? If so, I'll say you have a stronger resolve than I.

I could always say "no". Didn't DAO have that option?

[megamacka]

I want Bioware to wake up and create amazing games again.
Another Grey warden centric game would be awesome ( cuz grey wardens are awesome duh? ), but quite honestly. Lets not go there until they have started making amazing RPGs again instead of action games.

[Emzamination]

wsandista wrote...

Source?

Source

I could always say "no". Didn't DAO have that option?

Of course but then one of you has to die, so it's not really an option.

Modifié par Emzamination, 20 septembre 2012 - 02:46 .

[Emzamination]

Maclimes wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

wsandista wrote...

Really? I thought he was conceived by a witch haveing sex with a Warden, then said witch giving birth in the conventional manner.

Neh, he was conceived through some magical sex rite ritual.

Incorrect. Gaider confirmed that if the Warden sleeps with Morrigan during the adventure, but does not perform the Dark Ritual, then she is still pregnant (as mentioned in the epilogue), but it is not the so-called "Old God Baby". So clearly, the Warden was able to get her pregnant without the magic ritual.

I did say they had a 1% chance.The warden and alistair have been trying for 10 years in Da2 and still nothing.

[wsandista]

Emzamination wrote...

Source

Maclimes already shot that down.

Of course but then one of you has to die, so it's not really an option.

Why? You can make he choice so it obviously is an option.

[ReallyRue]

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

What's the difference between the grey wardens and everyone else? The wardens can kill the archdemon. That's really it. I don't see the point of another warden adevnture. It wouldn't be any different than Origins. The wardens only go after the darkspawn. So, kill the darkspawn and the Archdemon... again.

No.

Well, that and dying young/being corrupted, sensing darkspawn, darkspawn sensing you, frequent forays into the Deep Roads, being part of an ancient secretive order, being able to openly use magic as a mage without templars looming over you, being able to advance as an elf/dwarf/mage without societal crap holding you back, and other things, being infertile, losing all claims to titles, being 'above politics and stuff' etc.

I agree that GW are less interesting when there isn't a Blight around (unless Corypheus is going to be a major character), but there is quite a lot setting them apart from non-Wardens.

[Emzamination]

wsandista wrote...

Maclimes already shot that down.

Nay, you said Ogb.Thou art Incorrect sir, accept this.

Why? You can make he choice so it obviously is an option.

Because Either the warden alistair or loghain is going to stab the Arch demon and if loghain is there then it means Alistair has either broken up with the warden or...Well yeah, Alistair has left the warden.There is no Alternative there.

[Jerrybnsn]

Emzamination wrote...


I did say they had a 1% chance.The warden and alistair have been trying for 10 years in Da2 and still nothing.

Oh no.  Not in my head cannon.  Alistair has two little bastards running around his throne and putting on his crown that he had with his fiery, red haired elven mistress.  Twin red headed girls that would be about six right now.  Sometime she takes them up to Aramanthine with her but she mostly leaves them in Denerim with nannies because, you know, the Warden needs some "me time" in killing darkspawn and bad guys.

[wsandista]

Emzamination wrote...

Nay, you said Ogb.Thou art Incorrect sir, accept this.

I also said "conceived". The child was conceived first, then absorbed the soul of the Arch-Demon.

Because Either the warden alistair or loghain is going to stab the Arch demon and if loghain is there then it means Alistair has either broken up with the warden or...Well yeah, Alistair has left the warden.There is no Alternative there.

It is still an option, just not a desirable one.