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[Emzamination]

wsandista wrote...

I also said "conceived". The child was conceived first, then absorbed the soul of the Arch-Demon.

Wardens aren't sterile, remember that whole OGB thing? Also, how does being sterile hurt role-playing?

Nay

It is still an option, just not a desirable one.

That option defeats the whole purpose of my original argument of a warden being unable to have children with Alistair or of there even being a Alistair which simutaneously shatters the rp of 'Hubby Alistair'.

Modifié par Emzamination, 20 septembre 2012 - 03:11 .

[Emzamination]

Jerrybnsn wrote...

Emzamination wrote...


I did say they had a 1% chance.The warden and alistair have been trying for 10 years in Da2 and still nothing.

Oh no.  Not in my head cannon.  Alistair has two little bastards running around his throne and putting on his crown that he had with his fiery, red haired elven mistress.  Twin red headed girls that would be about six right now.  Sometime she takes them up to Aramanthine with her but she mostly leaves them in Denerim with nannies because, you know, the Warden needs some "me time" in killing darkspawn and bad guys.

Mee too, except blonde human

[wsandista]

Emzamination wrote...

wsandista wrote...

I also said "conceived". The child was conceived first, then absorbed the soul of the Arch-Demon.

Wardens aren't sterile, remember that whole OGB thing? Also, how does being sterile hurt role-playing?

Nay

wsandista wrote...

Really? I thought he was conceived by a witch haveing sex with a Warden, then said witch giving birth in the conventional manner.

Yep.

That option defeats the whole purpose of my original argument of a warden being unable to have children with Alistair or of there even being a Alistair which simutaneously shatters the rp of 'Hubby Alistair'.

It is still an option. DA was supposed to be full of "hard" choices. That is one of them.

[Maclimes]

Emzamination wrote...

That option defeats the whole purpose of my original argument of a warden being unable to have children with Alistair or of there even being a Alistair which simutaneously shatters the rp of 'Hubby Alistair'.

You can't RP "Hubby Alistair". I can't RP "Archdemon-sympathizing Lunatic". They can't give you EVERY SINGLE OPTION that would be available in a real world. Choices have to be limited to an extent. You have to RP within those limitations.

It's not Bioware's fault that you want to RP something that's not in their game. You also can't RP an apostate mage, or a "reformed thief"-type rogue, or any of other billions of options.

[Maclimes]

Also, we're veering dangerously close to the old hat "what is rp" argument. Let's try not to.

[Emzamination]

wsandista wrote...

Yep.

That's the latter statement to which we were still under the guise of the child being Ogb, so that means moot in your defence.If you had corrected my former statement and said you were talking about the normal child then things might've turned out different. I can quote it if you like, no trouble at all

It is still an option. DA was supposed to be full of "hard" choices. That is one of them.

Of course but the Argument was how does it break my Rp and since the Rp I stated Involved Alistair, having no Alistair...well I'm sure you follow.

[Emzamination]

Maclimes wrote...


You can't RP "Hubby Alistair". I can't RP "Archdemon-sympathizing Lunatic". They can't give you EVERY SINGLE OPTION that would be available in a real world. Choices have to be limited to an extent. You have to RP within those limitations.

It's not Bioware's fault that you want to RP something that's not in their game. You also can't RP an apostate mage, or a "reformed thief"-type rogue, or any of other billions of options.

Of course you can Role play Alistair as a Husband, that's just Fact.

[Jerrybnsn]

Emzamination wrote...

Jerrybnsn wrote...

Emzamination wrote...


I did say they had a 1% chance.The warden and alistair have been trying for 10 years in Da2 and still nothing.

Oh no.  Not in my head cannon.  Alistair has two little bastards running around his throne and putting on his crown that he had with his fiery, red haired elven mistress.  Twin red headed girls that would be about six right now.  Sometime she takes them up to Aramanthine with her but she mostly leaves them in Denerim with nannies because, you know, the Warden needs some "me time" in killing darkspawn and bad guys.

Mee too, except blonde human

Really?  I always thought that blonde and red make red.

[Doveberry]

Do we need another game about the warden? The "saving the world from the Blight"-story has already been done.

[JJDrakken]

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

Because some people treat it like real life and expect the game and all the rules of real life to apply to the game. They're the same people who create all these romance threads. They just want a interactive soap opera.

So true


JJ

[Jerrybnsn]

Doveberry wrote...

Do we need another game about the warden? The "saving the world from the Blight"-story has already been done.

one Blight down, two more to go.  And do we really need to go through another Mage/Templar conflict?

Modifié par Jerrybnsn, 20 septembre 2012 - 03:30 .

[Plaintiff]

Jerrybnsn wrote...

Doveberry wrote...

Do we need another game about the warden? The "saving the world from the Blight"-story has already been done.

one Blight down, two more to go.  And do we really need to go through another Mage/Templar conflict?

We haven't really gone through one, yet.

[gangly369]

Well considering that there are at least two more archdemons left, and unless we are given an alternative method to killing them that doesn't require the grey wardens, then I think it's safe to assume (at this point) that we may have another Grey Warden PC. Of course, whatever happens in DA3 may have a bearing on this so who knows.

[Jerrybnsn]

Plaintiff wrote...

Jerrybnsn wrote...

Doveberry wrote...

Do we need another game about the warden? The "saving the world from the Blight"-story has already been done.

one Blight down, two more to go.  And do we really need to go through another Mage/Templar conflict?

We haven't really gone through one, yet.

Explain please.

[Jerrybnsn]

gangly369 wrote...

Well considering that there are at least two more archdemons left, and unless we are given an alternative method to killing them that doesn't require the grey wardens, then I think it's safe to assume (at this point) that we may have another Grey Warden PC. Of course, whatever happens in DA3 may have a bearing on this so who knows.

If they do, I'm all fine with creating a new Grey Warden protagonist considering that my Warden would be older.  But as of now, My Warden is only thirty or thirty-one years of age, only ten years into the taint.  Duncan was 40 at the time period of Origins when he fell at Ostagar.  So I feel, they are wasting valuable time with my Warden by going off on these side stories.

[Plaintiff]

Jerrybnsn wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

Jerrybnsn wrote...

Doveberry wrote...

Do we need another game about the warden? The "saving the world from the Blight"-story has already been done.

one Blight down, two more to go.  And do we really need to go through another Mage/Templar conflict?

We haven't really gone through one, yet.

Explain please.

We saw the beginnings of an open conflict, it was not resolved, so we haven't "gone through" it.

[Il Divo]

gangly369 wrote...

Well considering that there are at least two more archdemons left, and unless we are given an alternative method to killing them that doesn't require the grey wardens, then I think it's safe to assume (at this point) that we may have another Grey Warden PC. Of course, whatever happens in DA3 may have a bearing on this so who knows.

Yeah, but with how many people were bored of the Mage/Templar conflict, I don't see the Darkspawn being much more interesting at this point. Even in DA:O, the Darkspawn were mostly bland with most of the interest stemming from the political conflicts and dealing with factions.

[Jerrybnsn]

[quote]Plaintiff wrote...

[quote]Jerrybnsn wrote...

one Blight down, two more to go.  And do we really need to go through another Mage/Templar conflict?[/quote]
We haven't really gone through one, yet. [/quote]

Explain please.[/quote]
[quote]We saw the beginnings of an open conflict, it was not resolved, so we haven't "gone through" it.[/quote]

Okay, I'll agree with that.  But wouldn't you say we just saw the beginning of the Darkspawn conflict that has not been resolved with the Architect and Flemeth?

Modifié par Jerrybnsn, 20 septembre 2012 - 03:49 .

[wsandista]

Sorry for the necromancy everyone, I would've responded earlier, but had to work.

Emzamination wrote...

That's the latter statement to which we were still under the guise of the child being Ogb, so that means moot in your defence.If you had corrected my former statement and said you were talking about the normal child then things might've turned out different. I can quote it if you like, no trouble at all

The child has to be conceived before the Old God's Soul can do ???????(IIRC, it still isn't known with certainty if the souls merged or whatever.). So, since the child must be conceived before, Wardens can have children.

Of course but the Argument was how does it break my Rp and since the Rp I stated Involved Alistair, having no Alistair...well I'm sure you follow.

How does the PC know that Alistair and her can't have children? There is no in-game declaration of it(only evidence that it would be very difficult). Regardless, it is impossible to provide every option(especially post-story) in a CRPG. Just as my Warden can't be bitten by a radioactive spider and proceed to fight crime in New York after DAO, your Warden can't have kids with Alistair. If it upsets you that much, just headcanon it. It is highly doubtful we will see the Warden again anyway in future DA games.

[Renmiri1]

I would love a prequel with Garahel or some of the other Archdemon slayers

[RosaAquafire]

Personally, I sort of hope not. The Grey Wardens are one of the least interesting facets of this world. If we get another story about archdemons and blights, maybe, but eh. They're basically ASOIAF's Night Watch + HONOURABLE MONSTER KILLERS and so they're derivative and boring to me.

[upsettingshorts]

Personally, I really really hope not.

The Wardens and Darkspawn are probably my least favorite parts of the lore.

But hey, to each his own.

[berelinde]

Well, we're going to Orlais. The Adamant Fortress on the edge of the Abyssal Rift was once a Grey Warden outpost. It was the site of the only known reversal of Tranquility, so it's got some kind of story-relevant draw to it. The Abyssal Rift is an entrance to the Deep Roads and an outlet for darkspawn. Given the renewed Grey Warden interest in the Deep Roads as something other than a place to go to die, it's quite possible that the Wardens will play a larger role in DA3 than they did in DA2.

That, and the concept art displayed at PAX East included a Warden.

Will that do?

[Tasmen]

 As much as I live the wardens, I'm happy to see other stories developed instead. I loooooove political drama llamas and given Asunder, I'm hoping da3 is filled with them. Bring on the more "people" plots rather than just monsters. 

[MerAnne]

I loved my many Grey Wardens and DAO is still my favorite. But the purpose of the GWs is to fight Darkspawn and the Blight. Now that the Blight is over, I would rather that the Wardens not return other than - perhaps - as a vague mention at most. There task was done and I would rather head canon their happily ever afters (for the ones that didn't make the sacrifice).

I want a new PC and I want to care about her as much as I cared about my GWs. If the developers come up with another great game centered around a GW, I'm fine with that but don't really expect it. I would rather have a great game.