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There are a ton of LI threads, and this thread isn't intended to say, "I want this or that companion."  But, to branch off from the whole LI tree of discussion: a lot of players like the idea of in-game weddings between characters. 

I believe you could have an in-game wedding in Fable 3 and also in Skyrim, right? Are there any others? Unsure.

Anyway, for all the people who are going gaga over the whole romance aspect of the Dragon Age franchise: would you like the option of doing a wedding quest with your selected LI?  You have to quest for it, and the very last part of the quest (like in Skyrim) is: "Don't be late to your own wedding." lol. Maybe you have to kill a few things to get there. Would you like that? I think I would. 

Now, I know that some of you are going to argue that certain companions should be marryable while certain others shouldn't. I get that - and I'm not opposed to it. Kind of like how you can kind of marry Alistair (if you're a human noble) and can't really marry Zevran. 

Despite all of that, I'm talking about having a couple of options between potential LI's - meaning you can pick from at least a few companions that you like and do a wedding quest, and then actually see your little character in a wedding cut-scene

Feel free to throw in other details. And no naysaying! (and don't tell me to just mod a wedding scene! I want a real questline, dammit! lol) 

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Modifié par Trista Faux Hawke, 20 septembre 2012 - 03:49 .


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I'd like the option to connect two potential LIs to each other. For example, instead of wooing Alistair or Leliana, you could help them find each other. (Sort of like Aveline and Donnic, if both were also potentially romanceable companions).

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That's also a good idea - maybe one can do both? Wouldn't it be interesting? You marry someone you want to marry (if you're even interested) but you can also watch your companions do as they please.

I would have loved to have seen Donnic and Aveline have a wedding cut-scene. Like, what? Was Hawke NOT invited?

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MAKER YES!!!!!! When I saw this Alistair wedding mod for origins made free by a fan, it just made me think the Devs were slacking off.We should also be able to have babys like in Fable, come to think of it The Da team could take a few ques from fable.

Modifié par Emzamination, 20 septembre 2012 - 03:57 .


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A wedding option would be cool. Not an absolute necessity or anything, but would be a neat choice to have in a romance storyline

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You might be in Ferelden when your dog is the closest one to the wedding party on the bride's side of the ceremony.
Posted Image   I laughed when I read that on the youtube comments

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Maclimes wrote...

I'd like the option to connect two potential LIs to each other. For example, instead of wooing Alistair or Leliana, you could help them find each other. (Sort of like Aveline and Donnic, if both were also potentially romanceable companions).

Out of all the stupid romance bull**** on this forum, this is actually a pretty good idea. At least it would allow the player to become more involved without actually becoming involved.

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If it's not wedding, I would want to at least getting engaged. The romance portion of the game could be so much more interesting and rewarding.

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EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

Maclimes wrote...

I'd like the option to connect two potential LIs to each other. For example, instead of wooing Alistair or Leliana, you could help them find each other. (Sort of like Aveline and Donnic, if both were also potentially romanceable companions).

Out of all the stupid romance bull**** on this forum, this is actually a pretty good idea. At least it would allow the player to become more involved without actually becoming involved.


It's not stupid, you're just bias.

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Good idea I would really like to see this.

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I like these ideas! <3

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No thanks, it sounds stupid. Planning a wedding is something you do after you've saved the world. It made sense for Aveline and Donnic to get married because they had plenty of time for it.

Marriage as a mechanic might work for games like Fable and Skyrim, where you can dawdle around an open world indefinitely without progressing the plotline at all, and all the NPCs have the personality of cardboard, but for a more restrictive, plot-focused game like the DA series, romance should continue to work the way it has.

And if you can only get married if it "makes sense for the character", then what is actually changing anyway?

Dragon Age is not Fable or Skyrim, and it shouldn't try to be.

Modifié par Plaintiff, 20 septembre 2012 - 04:12 .


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Weddings? No thanks. I'm sure resources could be spend on more important things.

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Eh, it's an idea, but for me Bioware games already place a bit too much emphasis on romance subplots. Like Dubozz, there's more interesting aspects to role-playing and choices that I'd like Bioware to focus on.

Modifié par Il Divo, 20 septembre 2012 - 04:09 .


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Plaintiff wrote...

No thanks, it sounds stupid. Planning a wedding is something you do after you've saved the world. It made sense for Aveline and Donnic to get married because they had plenty of time for it.

Marriage as a mechanic might work for games like Fable and Skyrim, where you can dawdle around an open world indefinitely without progressing the plotline at all, and all the NPCs have the personality of cardboard, but for a more restrictive, plot-focused game like the DA series, romance should continue to work the way it has.

And if you can only get married if it "makes sense for the character", then what is actually changing anyway?

Dragon Age is not Fable or Skyrim, and it shouldn't try to be.


We're playing a different hero every release plaintiff, who cares what restrictions are lifted.Its not like we'll ever see these protagonist again.This isn't the same as playing shepard through a whole trilogy.You sir are just standing in the way of happiness and love.

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i have to see it or it doesn't exist bwaaaah

no thank you, if i am going to imagine my character getting married, i'd rather it stay safe in the confines of my brain rather than bioware having to create some scene i may be unhappy with anyway

but the idea of two characters hooking up and it doesn't involve the PC?  that was a pretty cool idea, liked setting up Aveline and Donnic, favorite quest really because the dialogue was so amazing.  also would have liked to hook Carver and Merrill up, but alas... I can dream.

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EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

Maclimes wrote...

I'd like the option to connect two potential LIs to each other. For example, instead of wooing Alistair or Leliana, you could help them find each other. (Sort of like Aveline and Donnic, if both were also potentially romanceable companions).

Out of all the stupid romance bull**** on this forum, this is actually a pretty good idea. At least it would allow the player to become more involved without actually becoming involved.


Thanks. 

I always wanted to feel more connected to my characters, but in all the DA games, I have yet to find a single "love interest" that I actually liked. But I still enjoy a good story, and romance is often an element of a good story. That doesn't mean it has to be with the PC, however. Just a thought.

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Emzamination wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

No thanks, it sounds stupid. Planning a wedding is something you do after you've saved the world. It made sense for Aveline and Donnic to get married because they had plenty of time for it.

Marriage as a mechanic might work for games like Fable and Skyrim, where you can dawdle around an open world indefinitely without progressing the plotline at all, and all the NPCs have the personality of cardboard, but for a more restrictive, plot-focused game like the DA series, romance should continue to work the way it has.

And if you can only get married if it "makes sense for the character", then what is actually changing anyway?

Dragon Age is not Fable or Skyrim, and it shouldn't try to be.


We're playing a different hero every release plaintiff, who cares what restrictions are lifted.Its not like we'll ever see these protagonist again.This isn't the same as playing shepard through a whole trilogy.You sir are just standing in the way of happiness and love.

I care. Romance should support and expand character development, it shouldn't be a shallow wish-fulfillment mechanic.

There is no "happiness" or "love" in Fable or Skyrim, the characters you marry and the children you have are empty husks, completely devoid of any sort of personality, and their existence has no impact on anything. These features would add nothing to Dragon Age.

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Emzamination wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

Maclimes wrote...

I'd like the option to connect two potential LIs to each other. For example, instead of wooing Alistair or Leliana, you could help them find each other. (Sort of like Aveline and Donnic, if both were also potentially romanceable companions).

Out of all the stupid romance bull**** on this forum, this is actually a pretty good idea. At least it would allow the player to become more involved without actually becoming involved.


It's not stupid, you're just bias.

The way people go on and on about it is stupid. Marriage and having babies? It's ****ing ridiculous. It's supposed to be a video game, not a life simulator. 

Furthermore, these 'romances' are just a cheap marketing ploy used by EA to attract female gamers who would otherwise play The Sims if the characters spoke a real language.

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I like the married with children idea. I also enjoy skyrims hearthfire, although I wanted more control over decor. Not saying it needs to be The Sims, but if my avatar is evil, my home should reflect that if I want it to. At the same time, I don't want to be locked into a style of spouse, home, kids because of my avatars adventuring antics.

I just want the open options to do as much customization as possible.

BTW, I don't want this as DLC. It should be in the box feature.

(Demanding aren't I? But this is the only chance fans have to get their constructive feedback out before the game is made... so why be shy about stating what we want).

added note: DA:O has wedding bliss already. One of my wardens married the King! 

Modifié par Massa FX, 20 septembre 2012 - 04:36 .


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Emzamination wrote...

MAKER YES!!!!!! When I saw this Alistair wedding mod for origins made free by a fan, it just made me think the Devs were slacking off.We should also be able to have babys like in Fable, come to think of it The Da team could take a few ques from fable.


Slacking off?  So let me get this straight, with ALL the options in Origins, you had only 1 origin (so 2 scenarios with male & female) that could end up married, one of those marriages being to Alistair and the other to Anora. And you wanted them to take the time to create a scene for JUST that origin?  I would hardly call NOT making something for a small sliver of the player base as 'slacking' off. 

Also, the only spawn there should be in the DA-verse is the dark kind.  I'll say it again, this isn't the Sims.  It isn't Fabled.  It isn't Skyrim.  

Why babies + marriage = best ending for some people constantly amazes me.  Babies != love. 

Modifié par Tasmen, 20 septembre 2012 - 04:33 .


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Plaintiff wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

No thanks, it sounds stupid. Planning a wedding is something you do after you've saved the world. It made sense for Aveline and Donnic to get married because they had plenty of time for it.

Marriage as a mechanic might work for games like Fable and Skyrim, where you can dawdle around an open world indefinitely without progressing the plotline at all, and all the NPCs have the personality of cardboard, but for a more restrictive, plot-focused game like the DA series, romance should continue to work the way it has.

And if you can only get married if it "makes sense for the character", then what is actually changing anyway?

Dragon Age is not Fable or Skyrim, and it shouldn't try to be.


We're playing a different hero every release plaintiff, who cares what restrictions are lifted.Its not like we'll ever see these protagonist again.This isn't the same as playing shepard through a whole trilogy.You sir are just standing in the way of happiness and love.

I care. Romance should support and expand character development, it shouldn't be a shallow wish-fulfillment mechanic.

There is no "happiness" or "love" in Fable or Skyrim, the characters you marry and the children you have are empty husks, completely devoid of any sort of personality, and their existence has no impact on anything. These features would add nothing to Dragon Age.


You're arguing under the assumption that all marriage mechanics must exist that way.What if after a whole year of journeying and defeating the blight, the warden asked leliana to marry him, would that just be wish fullfillement? Would that lessen the romance? Keep in mind that these two have fought and struggled together for the whole ordeal.

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Dubozz wrote...

Weddings? No thanks. I'm sure resources could be spend on more important things.


I +1 this.  I would rather have less emphasis on romances and more attention on the actual gameplay and combat mechanics.  The only way I would support a wedding is if my spouse opened up a shop and gave me money or made me food (like in Skyrim).  Weddings and babies would be quite a story breaker for me.  In a time of war and great peril, I think there are more important matters to attend to... At least, that's how my character would think. 

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Tasmen wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

MAKER YES!!!!!! When I saw this Alistair wedding mod for origins made free by a fan, it just made me think the Devs were slacking off.We should also be able to have babys like in Fable, come to think of it The Da team could take a few ques from fable.


Slacking off?  So let me get this straight, with ALL the options in Origins, you had only 1 origin (so 2 scenarios with male & female) that could end up married, one of those marriages being to Alistair and the other to Anora.  I would hardly call NOT making something for a small sliver of the player base as 'slacking' off. 

Also, the only spawn there should be in the DA-verse is the dark kind.  I'll say it again, this isn't the Sims.  It isn't Fabled.  It isn't Skyrim.  

Why babies + marriage = best ending for some people constantly amazes me.  Babies != love. 


i'll take a marriage mechanic if i can also have divorce mechanic that allows me to take half of their stuff if i don't complete a pre-nuptial quest

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I'm not particularly fond of the idea, but if I won't mind others having the option- as long as marriage won't be necessary for the continuation of the romance. or worse, make the romance plotline like Skyrim or Fable's "romance". Ugh.