Having the option sounds like a good idea to me. That way the ones that want it can use it and those that don't want it can decide to not pick it. It shouldn't be a must for the continuation of the romance or such. Just have it optional little goodie and there should be no real issue
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Posté 22 septembre 2012 - 07:41
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I agree with some of the posts stating that if the wedding were fleeting - forget it. I stated throughout the thread (but I realize the thread has become quite large) that a wedding should be part of a side quest. I think you should have to work for it, if you so choose to go that route with a companion. I wouldn't want to force it on a player, being that some fans of Dragon Age have zero interest in the romance portion of the game. Regardless, the wedding should have some bearing on the storyline, hence it should be a side-quest. If the side-quest is pursued and achieved, then the story (in that typical Dragon Age fashion) should shift.
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Posté 22 septembre 2012 - 09:44
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Weddings...bleah... nooo way!
I prefer endless adventures.
I prefer endless adventures.
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Posté 22 septembre 2012 - 10:24
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If the notion is that we would have a wedding during the course of the game, and then you would move onto married life... no, I doubt we'd ever do that. If the notion is that the subject of marriage could come up, that is indeed possible and we've done it before, in fact. It really depends on the context of the game. Unless a marriage was important to the plot (like, say, the City Elf Origin wedding in DAO), it's something that will likely always be consigned to the "happily/unhappily ever after" part once the game is done.
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Posté 22 septembre 2012 - 10:29
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I want to be able to romance none companions.
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Posté 22 septembre 2012 - 10:55
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David Gaider wrote...
If the notion is that we would have a wedding during the course of the game, and then you would move onto married life... no, I doubt we'd ever do that. If the notion is that the subject of marriage could come up, that is indeed possible and we've done it before, in fact. It really depends on the context of the game. Unless a marriage was important to the plot (like, say, the City Elf Origin wedding in DAO), it's something that will likely always be consigned to the "happily/unhappily ever after" part once the game is done.
*raises finger* I'll take it for 1,000,000 likes, Gaider
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Posté 22 septembre 2012 - 11:10
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If the notion is that we would have a wedding during the course of the game, and then you would move onto married life... no, I doubt we'd ever do that.
and there was a wailing and gnashing of teeth.
not from me of course. There are far bigger fish to fry.
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Posté 23 septembre 2012 - 12:16
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David Gaider wrote...
If the notion is that we would have a wedding during the course of the game, and then you would move onto married life... no, I doubt we'd ever do that. If the notion is that the subject of marriage could come up, that is indeed possible and we've done it before, in fact. It really depends on the context of the game. Unless a marriage was important to the plot (like, say, the City Elf Origin wedding in DAO), it's something that will likely always be consigned to the "happily/unhappily ever after" part once the game is done.
The City Elf running around in a bloody wedding dress was awesome!
But DA2 had LI moving in with Hawke which is considered "common law wedding" so why not take the plunge and give us a party ? Anders would probably never pick china with Hawke but I can see Merril having fun in a party. The TL;DR is that weddings and living together aren't that different so if LIs can move in, a party could be fun if it fits the LI's character.
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Posté 23 septembre 2012 - 12:38
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I like the inclusion of romances in RPG's regardless of how superfluous it might feel. When done correctly I think they provide great enhancement to the overall tale. I think of some of my favourite books/games etc and imagine them without romance and it would make it inferior.
To me, the best stories always include an element of romance and to remove that from something like DA3 would diminish the overall feel of the game. Yes it should not be the primary focus but it's important for developing characters and providing emotional connection to the story.
That being said, the idea of weddings isn't particularly appealing to me, though as with anything, if its done right it can enhance the overall product. Maybe it should be included in the epilogue.
To me, the best stories always include an element of romance and to remove that from something like DA3 would diminish the overall feel of the game. Yes it should not be the primary focus but it's important for developing characters and providing emotional connection to the story.
That being said, the idea of weddings isn't particularly appealing to me, though as with anything, if its done right it can enhance the overall product. Maybe it should be included in the epilogue.
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Posté 23 septembre 2012 - 01:16
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David Gaider wrote...
If the notion is that we would have a wedding during the course of the game, and then you would move onto married life... no, I doubt we'd ever do that. If the notion is that the subject of marriage could come up, that is indeed possible and we've done it before, in fact. It really depends on the context of the game. Unless a marriage was important to the plot (like, say, the City Elf Origin wedding in DAO), it's something that will likely always be consigned to the "happily/unhappily ever after" part once the game is done.
Might I suggest using a wedding of thw PC and their love interest as a trap for the antagionist at/near the end?
I could just imagine the differences that could happen with the various personalities being in play, with stuff like hesitance, sweet moments, and much more. And if the PC doesn't have a love interest, a wonderfully hilarious and awkward scene could be made as he/she has to go through with it for someone.
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Posté 23 septembre 2012 - 01:16
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Renmiri1 wrote...
David Gaider wrote...
If the notion is that we would have a wedding during the course of the game, and then you would move onto married life... no, I doubt we'd ever do that. If the notion is that the subject of marriage could come up, that is indeed possible and we've done it before, in fact. It really depends on the context of the game. Unless a marriage was important to the plot (like, say, the City Elf Origin wedding in DAO), it's something that will likely always be consigned to the "happily/unhappily ever after" part once the game is done.
The City Elf running around in a bloody wedding dress was awesome!
But DA2 had LI moving in with Hawke which is considered "common law wedding" so why not take the plunge and give us a party ? Anders would probably never pick china with Hawke but I can see Merril having fun in a party. The TL;DR is that weddings and living together aren't that different so if LIs can move in, a party could be fun if it fits the LI's character.
I second this.
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Posté 23 septembre 2012 - 01:35
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if you do wedding it to be in the middle of the game; not at the end. If the wedding is in the middle it would give more depth to the romance.
If it is a end game wedding, it would be okay.
If it is a end game wedding, it would be okay.
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Posté 23 septembre 2012 - 01:35
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I have no problem with marriage and/or kids and/or retirement etc. etc. for the PC and his/her LI. I think it would be great, if the story takes place in a large enough timeframe, if the relationship (post-marriage relationship, raising the kid) was handled as a full plot line in its own right, with the characters fully embraced in their roles, etc. I think it could potentially add a lot to the franchise.
But that's only if, if it makes sense, if it fits within the timeframe, if characters aren't going to be shoehorned together that shouldn't be, if progeny are treated as full characters with their own arcs, etc. It could be great if treated seriously.
I'd argue they should have allowed this with DA2, with all that excess of free time everybody seemingly had, but sure, another situation like that, by all means, do it and do it well.
But that's only if, if it makes sense, if it fits within the timeframe, if characters aren't going to be shoehorned together that shouldn't be, if progeny are treated as full characters with their own arcs, etc. It could be great if treated seriously.
I'd argue they should have allowed this with DA2, with all that excess of free time everybody seemingly had, but sure, another situation like that, by all means, do it and do it well.
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Posté 23 septembre 2012 - 01:39
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Renmiri1 wrote...
The City Elf running around in a bloody wedding dress was awesome!
But DA2 had LI moving in with Hawke which is considered "common law wedding" so why not take the plunge and give us a party ? Anders would probably never pick china with Hawke but I can see Merril having fun in a party. The TL;DR is that weddings and living together aren't that different so if LIs can move in, a party could be fun if it fits the LI's character.
Cirt elf was the first character I stared with origins and that is something that will always stand out for me.
For DA2 and the time skips it could work. Between act 2 and 3 you get a "in the mean time" then cut to the party, but if DA3 is going to be similar to DA:O to just stop and in the middle of the adventure and have a wedding. No please god no.
To go back to DA:O maybe some quick and simple that happens in the party camp would be fine.
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Posté 23 septembre 2012 - 01:48
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David Gaider wrote...
If the notion is that we would have a wedding during the course of the game, and then you would move onto married life... no, I doubt we'd ever do that. If the notion is that the subject of marriage could come up, that is indeed possible and we've done it before, in fact. It really depends on the context of the game. Unless a marriage was important to the plot (like, say, the City Elf Origin wedding in DAO), it's something that will likely always be consigned to the "happily/unhappily ever after" part once the game is done.
Oh, come on, this could be awesome. Make it part of the main storyline. Maybe for DA4 you're an ambassador from one country to another one, and about 2/3 of the way through the story you basically get ordered into a diplomatic union of some kind.
Imagine how cool this could be. Imagine the CONFLICTS it would generate. What do you do? Accept it as your obligation as a public official? Rebel? Try and lobby for a different spouse that you like better? Figure some way to avoid it gracefully? What if your future spouse throws a fit over the idea? How will this affect your current romance(s)? Do you try to pursue a good relationship or make it strictly a marriage of convenience?
And then, of course, you can throw in a ton of nasty fighting and a situation where you could let your new spouse get killed or save them. Good times.
You could still push the "married life" part off after the end of the game.
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Posté 23 septembre 2012 - 02:01
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PsychoBlonde wrote...
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That is a really cool idea.
Props to ya. I could see a, well, some sort of former adventurer who's made a name for themselves in a past conflict, that gets assigned as ambassador, then gets looped into local politics and infighting, including the whole indecent proposal and it's aftermath. I'd be interested in playing that out, definitely.
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PsychoBlonde wrote...
David Gaider wrote...
If the notion is that we would have a wedding during the course of the game, and then you would move onto married life... no, I doubt we'd ever do that. If the notion is that the subject of marriage could come up, that is indeed possible and we've done it before, in fact. It really depends on the context of the game. Unless a marriage was important to the plot (like, say, the City Elf Origin wedding in DAO), it's something that will likely always be consigned to the "happily/unhappily ever after" part once the game is done.
Oh, come on, this could be awesome. Make it part of the main storyline. Maybe for DA4 you're an ambassador from one country to another one, and about 2/3 of the way through the story you basically get ordered into a diplomatic union of some kind.
Imagine how cool this could be. Imagine the CONFLICTS it would generate. What do you do? Accept it as your obligation as a public official? Rebel? Try and lobby for a different spouse that you like better? Figure some way to avoid it gracefully? What if your future spouse throws a fit over the idea? How will this affect your current romance(s)? Do you try to pursue a good relationship or make it strictly a marriage of convenience?
And then, of course, you can throw in a ton of nasty fighting and a situation where you could let your new spouse get killed or save them. Good times.
You could still push the "married life" part off after the end of the game.
That would be pretty awesome, I think. Wedding scandals would be fun too. Wouldn't it be intriguing to mess around with a character in DA who is already married? That would cause some drama, too you know? Like... maybe your protag doesn't realize it until halfway through the game. Maybe the companion's spouse was an arranged marriage and they haven't seen them in some time. And maybe all that ties into a big bloody fight instigated by political turmoil since you've had relations with some noble's spouse. I don't know. Throwing out ideas.
(That IS what happens in Dragon's Dogma with the dutchess. You even get whipped and thrown in prison for visiting her room in the middle of the night...)
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Posté 23 septembre 2012 - 02:47
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there should be weddings that is such a good idea
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Posté 23 septembre 2012 - 02:52
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I'm all for a "red" wedding. Though obviously not for my character.
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Posté 23 septembre 2012 - 03:11
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PsychoBlonde wrote...
David Gaider wrote...
If the notion is that we would have a wedding during the course of the game, and then you would move onto married life... no, I doubt we'd ever do that. If the notion is that the subject of marriage could come up, that is indeed possible and we've done it before, in fact. It really depends on the context of the game. Unless a marriage was important to the plot (like, say, the City Elf Origin wedding in DAO), it's something that will likely always be consigned to the "happily/unhappily ever after" part once the game is done.
Oh, come on, this could be awesome. Make it part of the main storyline. Maybe for DA4 you're an ambassador from one country to another one, and about 2/3 of the way through the story you basically get ordered into a diplomatic union of some kind.
Imagine how cool this could be. Imagine the CONFLICTS it would generate. What do you do? Accept it as your obligation as a public official? Rebel? Try and lobby for a different spouse that you like better? Figure some way to avoid it gracefully? What if your future spouse throws a fit over the idea? How will this affect your current romance(s)? Do you try to pursue a good relationship or make it strictly a marriage of convenience?
And then, of course, you can throw in a ton of nasty fighting and a situation where you could let your new spouse get killed or save them. Good times.
You could still push the "married life" part off after the end of the game.
Now this I could really get behind, especially as it also adds a political element to the situation. It gives those who potentially want a romance the option, but also let's the player use it only as a means to further their career.
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Posté 23 septembre 2012 - 03:59
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David Gaider wrote...
If the notion is that we would have a wedding during the course of the game, and then you would move onto married life... no, I doubt we'd ever do that. If the notion is that the subject of marriage could come up, that is indeed possible and we've done it before, in fact. It really depends on the context of the game. Unless a marriage was important to the plot (like, say, the City Elf Origin wedding in DAO), it's something that will likely always be consigned to the "happily/unhappily ever after" part once the game is done.
The subject and the actual ceremony would be nice to see, even if you can't just be your friendly neighborhood Tom and Jane after it's done.
Also, dammit man, let me hug the LIs when they're crying their eyes out! It pained me to be unable to hug Merrill when she was crying after her Act 2 and 3 quest!
Hell, just let me hug/kiss them any time. And other things too.
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Posté 23 septembre 2012 - 04:08
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TEWR thanks for reminding me. Would we finally be able to see tears when/if someone cries like Nef's mother in ME2?The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...
The subject and the actual ceremony would be nice to see, even if you can't just be your friendly neighborhood Tom and Jane after it's done.
Also, dammit man, let me hug the LIs when they're crying their eyes out! It pained me to be unable to hug Merrill when she was crying after her Act 2 and 3 quest!
Hell, just let me hug/kiss them any time. And other things too.
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Posté 23 septembre 2012 - 04:10
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The way I see it, weddings (someone else's) would be a great place for the player character to engage in plot propelling shenanigans.
For example, imagine that after the Reverend Mother says the Chantry equivalent to "Speak now or forever hold your peace" bit, the player chooses the "Sarcastic" line.
For example, imagine that after the Reverend Mother says the Chantry equivalent to "Speak now or forever hold your peace" bit, the player chooses the "Sarcastic" line.
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Posté 23 septembre 2012 - 04:54
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TheJediSaint wrote...
The way I see it, weddings (someone else's) would be a great place for the player character to engage in plot propelling shenanigans.
For example, imagine that after the Reverend Mother says the Chantry equivalent to "Speak now or forever hold your peace" bit, the player chooses the "Sarcastic" line.
So that is why Aveline didn't invite Hawke and Anders to her wedding!
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Posté 23 septembre 2012 - 07:38
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I think the hug needs to be an interrupt for such scenesThe Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...
Also, dammit man, let me hug the LIs when they're crying their eyes out! It pained me to be unable to hug Merrill when she was crying after her Act 2 and 3 quest!
Hell, just let me hug/kiss them any time. And other things too.
. More hugs for DA3! Hell, I wanted a hug from my LI after mom died. 
