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David Gaider wrote...

If the notion is that we would have a wedding during the course of the game, and then you would move onto married life... no, I doubt we'd ever do that. If the notion is that the subject of marriage could come up, that is indeed possible and we've done it before, in fact. It really depends on the context of the game. Unless a marriage was important to the plot (like, say, the City Elf Origin wedding in DAO), it's something that will likely always be consigned to the "happily/unhappily ever after" part once the game is done.


I never really desired a "wedding" so I don't care about having one, but could I have at least TOUCHED a crying Merrill or Anders in a mental breakdown? The lack of those "little things" bothered me way more than not having a wedding ceremony. I had more physical contact (hugs and stuff) during cutscence convos with Bethany than the guy/ girl I've been sleeping with and/ or living with for three years. A hug would've been nice after my mom was murdered. 

i.e. I think the only time you touch Anders is during romance scences, or if you stab him. :blink: 

And way cooler romance dynamics are read about in character codexes than played out in the game. 

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Trista Faux Hawke wrote...

Anyway, for all the people who are going gaga over the whole romance aspect of the Dragon Age franchise: would you like the option of doing a wedding quest with your selected LI?  You have to quest for it, and the very last part of the quest (like in Skyrim) is: "Don't be late to your own wedding." lol. Maybe you have to kill a few things to get there. Would you like that? I think I would. 


Yeah. I had a wedding the other day. There were no survivors.

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I support anything that allows freedom for the player to play freely in their world.

I would probably never use it - but by damn it I would love it to be in there.

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David Gaider wrote...

If the notion is that we would have a wedding during the course of the game, and then you would move onto married life... no, I doubt we'd ever do that. If the notion is that the subject of marriage could come up, that is indeed possible and we've done it before, in fact. It really depends on the context of the game. Unless a marriage was important to the plot (like, say, the City Elf Origin wedding in DAO), it's something that will likely always be consigned to the "happily/unhappily ever after" part once the game is done.

Instead of having the wedding could the existance of one be presant in an epilouge slide?

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I'd like that if the love interesting is the type of person that would settle down. And, I don't think there can be gay or interspecies marriages in the DA lore, so I really don't want them to do it as fan service.

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franciscoamell wrote...

I'd like that if the love interesting is the type of person that would settle down. And, I don't think there can be gay or interspecies marriages in the DA lore, so I really don't want them to do it as fan service.


Don't make it *that* thread, please! :pinched:

Having "gay" characters or "interspecies" romance or marrage isn't "fan service," it is INCLUSION for people who may want to play as or identify as a gay character in their story. Too tired for LGBT rage. If you don't want a gay relationship, don't romance a same sex LI. 

Also, there can, and are interspecies marriage in DA universe. Soris (one example) marries a human woman if you played as City Elf Warden and get that epilogue. It happens, it may not be approved of in many places, but it is there, and should be. 

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David Gaider wrote...

If the notion is that we would have a wedding during the course of the game, and then you would move onto married life... no, I doubt we'd ever do that. If the notion is that the subject of marriage could come up, that is indeed possible and we've done it before, in fact. It really depends on the context of the game. Unless a marriage was important to the plot (like, say, the City Elf Origin wedding in DAO), it's something that will likely always be consigned to the "happily/unhappily ever after" part once the game is done.


Understandable.  I wouldn't expect any sort of marriage that took place in-game to be anywhere but at or just before endgame anyway.  And postgame is far more likely.

Political marriage as an "important to the plot" aspect others mentioned does sound cool.  Especially if you can choose to make it a marriage of convenience, a genuine love story, or refuse and make things tougher for yourself all around Image IPB

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Tali-vas-normandy wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

If the notion is that we would have a wedding during the course of the game, and then you would move onto married life... no, I doubt we'd ever do that. If the notion is that the subject of marriage could come up, that is indeed possible and we've done it before, in fact. It really depends on the context of the game. Unless a marriage was important to the plot (like, say, the City Elf Origin wedding in DAO), it's something that will likely always be consigned to the "happily/unhappily ever after" part once the game is done.

Instead of having the wedding could the existance of one be presant in an epilouge slide?


I liked the description of the wedding in Aerie's romance in BG2

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Palipride47 wrote...

franciscoamell wrote...

I'd like that if the love interesting is the type of person that would settle down. And, I don't think there can be gay or interspecies marriages in the DA lore, so I really don't want them to do it as fan service.


Don't make it *that* thread, please! :pinched:


Indeed. Let's not become that thread, because that thread ("FOR THE LOVE...etc.) was shut down just the other day. :(

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Trista Faux Hawke wrote...

Palipride47 wrote...

franciscoamell wrote...

I'd like that if the love interesting is the type of person that would settle down. And, I don't think there can be gay or interspecies marriages in the DA lore, so I really don't want them to do it as fan service.


Don't make it *that* thread, please! :pinched:


Indeed. Let's not become that thread, because that thread ("FOR THE LOVE...etc.) was shut down just the other day. :(


FOR THE LOVE didn't get much love eh?

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Children?

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David Gaider wrote...

If the notion is that we would have a wedding during the course of the game, and then you would move onto married life... no, I doubt we'd ever do that. If the notion is that the subject of marriage could come up, that is indeed possible and we've done it before, in fact. It really depends on the context of the game. Unless a marriage was important to the plot (like, say, the City Elf Origin wedding in DAO), it's something that will likely always be consigned to the "happily/unhappily ever after" part once the game is done.


I could live with a happy marriage at the very end, as a fitting epilogue. I already confessed my love for the Alistair-Marriage mod in this thread. It may be too much sweetness for some, but I see it as a strong, wonderful, UPLIFTING and hopeful way to end a possibly very dark game. At least i think DA3 won't be the Inqusitor picking flowers and riding unicorns...

But I also like the idea of a wedding ceremony near/close to the end of the game. Just imagine (and bear in mind I am not native english speaker)

Main Char (female) and her LI together. Outside the armeis gather for the final battle that will decide the fate of Orlais/the world/whatever. Tomorrow might only bring death and sorrow, with no a guarantee of victory. And even if so, it will be bought with blood. I may very well the last time of peace they will share together, as lovers...usually the typical result in stories is "to make out"

Why not a little more romantic before?

LI: "I do not know if we will survive the coming day. Or if we will win this battle, or if all of this will even matter to nyone in the end. All I have for this is hope, and it was you who gave me that. You are my hope, my heart. And all I truly know is that I love you, and that I want to share the rest of my life at your side, as short as it may be. And...I want it to shout out to all of them out there that scream for our blood, shout it out to our friends and foes, shout it out so loud that even the Maker hears it in his exile that I love you! And only you! And I want them all to see that we are as one. Unbreakable, unbeatable...together...so...I dare to ask..do you want to become my wife? The woman at my side, for this life, and eternity beyond?"

1. Yes, yes, YES! *hugs him and kisses him and loves him forever, never using him up*
2. No way, you jerk! What are you thinking!? *throws him hard onto the bed...fade to black*
3. I...don't know...*screen turns green, weird things are happening, it all makes not much sense*
4. I must go.

Ah...got carried away a little I am afraid...but really, a little less sugar-coated as my version maybe, but I think a wedding such as this might be a powerful symbol for certain relationships. Not all. But as an option it would be so cool. And give me much more than Multiplayer-option....or what Shepard went through in the end *shudder*

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 Mr.Gaider although the PC having a wedding mid game would be off the table, how about a party member that has a loving family (wife and kids). don't see that type much in videogames.

PS: David! put down the murder pen! i know what you do with happy living family members of characters:devil:

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nightcobra8928 wrote...
 Mr.Gaider although the PC having a wedding mid game would be off the table, how about a party member that has a loving family (wife and kids). don't see that type much in videogames.
PS: David! put down the murder pen! i know what you do with happy living family members of characters:devil:

Aveline and Donnic seemed to have a good life together during Act 2 and 3.

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Xewaka wrote...

nightcobra8928 wrote...
 Mr.Gaider although the PC having a wedding mid game would be off the table, how about a party member that has a loving family (wife and kids). don't see that type much in videogames.
PS: David! put down the murder pen! i know what you do with happy living family members of characters:devil:

Aveline and Donnic seemed to have a good life together during Act 2 and 3.


i was more going for a companion which could be an experienced mother/father to a few kids and living with the spouse.
aveline and donnic still felt more like "newly-weds" if that makes any sense.
would love to have a stern serious party member that is also a very doting father, kinda like tenzin from avatar korra.

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RinjiRenee wrote...

i'll take a marriage mechanic if i can also have divorce mechanic that allows me to take half of their stuff if i don't complete a pre-nuptial quest


LOL! :devil:

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Isn't the whole idea of the romance subplots to be... well.. romantic? So why do so many of you ask for a potential wedding, to be a disaster and end in misery? Doesn't that defeat the entire purpose? If you want hopelessnes and despair that is all fine and dandy, but let the romance live in the romance plot dammit! If anything, the wedding (or jsut the romance subplot) should be that glimmer of light that gives the PC hope, in an otherwise dark world.

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Wulfram wrote...

They could do a marriage, sure.

I'd see it as more likely to be a before the big final battle "Oh crap we might die tomorrow, so let's get married now" thing, with just a priest and a few friends, rather than any great ceremony with cheering crowds and whatnot.

It wouldn't work for all romances, but it could work for some of them.

edit:  And you should probably make it a player initiated thing, since some people seem to be crazily against that sort of thing.



If It was implemented I would wish it to be something like this.

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Trista Faux Hawke wrote...
I believe you could have an in-game wedding in Fable 3 and also in Skyrim, right? Are there any others? Unsure.

Marriage doesn't serve much purpose for story driven game unless the story is heavily focus on romance which is never be the case for BioWare's games. 

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Marriage sort of turns me off, so I'm not itching to get that included if it doesn't have to be. I liked it in Skyrim because having at least some kind of interpersonal relationship between my character and another character made her feel a little less like a soulless errand girl, but the DA-series already got that part covered.

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David Gaider wrote...

If the notion is that we would have a wedding during the course of the game, and then you would move onto married life... no, I doubt we'd ever do that. If the notion is that the subject of marriage could come up, that is indeed possible and we've done it before, in fact. It really depends on the context of the game. Unless a marriage was important to the plot (like, say, the City Elf Origin wedding in DAO), it's something that will likely always be consigned to the "happily/unhappily ever after" part once the game is done.

I don't think anyone ever said "Let us buy a house together with our LI." or anything of the sort. After the wedding, there could of course be the honeymoon. After that, the characters could easily just go back to being leader and follower. The only difference between before and after, could be: after, the companions discuss it in banter and the LI partner refers them to their respective new title. There could be a quest or an alternating quest much like in Act 3, where the live sibling or the LI gets captured by Grace.

It doesn't have to turn the whole game upside down, just let us have a law binding relationship with a companion. Under the eyes of the Maker or the Creators or whatever. If it's a qunari companion, we can convince them (unless they become tal-vashoth anyway) to give up their (former?) beliefs in favour of their undying love for the PC.

The epilogue. That's when they begin married life! Each companion could have their own specific event/s with the PC, all of which end up with them still being together. Hawke can become the viscount or viscountess, and yet still run away/disappear (as far as Cassandra knows). It won't be game breaking in anyway... if it's handled correctly.
OMG, PLEASE!!! :crying:  /\\  :crying:

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Orian Tabris wrote...

The epilogue. That's when they begin married life!


Viconia DeVir style?

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Trista Faux Hawke wrote...

That's also a good idea - maybe one can do both? Wouldn't it be interesting? You marry someone you want to marry (if you're even interested) but you can also watch your companions do as they please.

I would have loved to have seen Donnic and Aveline have a wedding cut-scene. Like, what? Was Hawke NOT invited?

Hawke wasn't invited because they were afraid s/he'd try and ruine the wedding? :P

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EmperorSahlertz wrote...

Isn't the whole idea of the romance subplots to be... well.. romantic? So why do so many of you ask for a potential wedding, to be a disaster and end in misery? Doesn't that defeat the entire purpose? If you want hopelessnes and despair that is all fine and dandy, but let the romance live in the romance plot dammit! If anything, the wedding (or jsut the romance subplot) should be that glimmer of light that gives the PC hope, in an otherwise dark world.


Nah, the purpose of the romantic subplots is as numerous as there are players. Without getting spoilerific, other games have done an excellent job playing with the idea of killing supporting characters to get at the Player, making them more invested in the experience. Of course, in order for killing the love interest to feel meaningful, it would also be necessary to have a good amount of romantic content in the first place to build a connection between the two.

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Il Divo wrote...

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

Isn't the whole idea of the romance subplots to be... well.. romantic? So why do so many of you ask for a potential wedding, to be a disaster and end in misery? Doesn't that defeat the entire purpose? If you want hopelessnes and despair that is all fine and dandy, but let the romance live in the romance plot dammit! If anything, the wedding (or jsut the romance subplot) should be that glimmer of light that gives the PC hope, in an otherwise dark world.


Nah, the purpose of the romantic subplots is as numerous as there are players. Without getting spoilerific, other games have done an excellent job playing with the idea of killing supporting characters to get at the Player, making them more invested in the experience. Of course, in order for killing the love interest to feel meaningful, it would also be necessary to have a good amount of romantic content in the first place to build a connection between the two.

Yes, but I don't think seething hatred towards Bioware specifically is what they want to be going for.