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[bleetman]

Renmiri1 wrote...

Jerrybnsn wrote...

If you want to import your decisions your are forced to use your dead Warden.  I personally couldn't play the game that way because it was ridiculous.  What's with this "retconning" thing you mention?

No you are not forced. You can just use an Orlesian Warden. 

Not if you want to import your decisions. Which is what the poster you quoted specifically mentioned. When it comes to my playthoughs that ended with a dead protaganist, I shouldn't reasonably have been made to choose between retaining most of my previous choices but doing so in a way that makes no sense, or starting an entirely new character.

Anyway, as far as the thread topic goes, sure. Why not. I wouldn't go for it myself, because my Warden has no intention on going on her Calling, but I could solve that by just not actually playing it.

Modifié par bleetman, 21 septembre 2012 - 12:12 .

[Jerrybnsn]

KENNY4753 wrote...

SteveGarbage wrote...

Your Warden imports into the new game and you'd have a chance to adjust the best effort to import the face morph (in case it looks god awful in the new game) and then you and a couple other Wardens and/or Legion of the Dead members head into the Deep Roads for the last hurrah. 

I would love to go with the Awakening companions as ther was only 1 year difference between their joinings they would all roughly got he same time but I wiould want Valenna, Oghren, and Sigrun definately alongside my Warden, as well as Leliana since that was my Warden's LI

As Oghren would say

http://t0.gstatic.co...86fRot63wMzYZt6

Let's show them our hearts, and then show them theirs

[KENNY4753]

Jerrybnsn wrote...

KENNY4753 wrote...

SteveGarbage wrote...

Your Warden imports into the new game and you'd have a chance to adjust the best effort to import the face morph (in case it looks god awful in the new game) and then you and a couple other Wardens and/or Legion of the Dead members head into the Deep Roads for the last hurrah. 

I would love to go with the Awakening companions as ther was only 1 year difference between their joinings they would all roughly got he same time but I wiould want Valenna, Oghren, and Sigrun definately alongside my Warden, as well as Leliana since that was my Warden's LI

As Oghren would say

http://t0.gstatic.co...86fRot63wMzYZt6

Let's show them our hearts, and then show them theirs

best Oghren moment ever

[Jerrybnsn]

Renmiri1 wrote...

Jerrybnsn wrote...

Renmiri1 wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

So, doing the ultimate sacrifice really doesn't matter?

No, you are the one deciding to retcon your own story.

If you decide to import a Warden that did the Ultimate Sacrifice, what you are doing is essentially retconning your own story. No one forces you to use your dead Warden. If you decide you want hom alive for DAA it means you retconned him / her as  NOT doing the Ultimate Sacrifice. Your choice.

If you want to import your decisions your are forced to use your dead Warden.  I personally couldn't play the game that way because it was ridiculous.  What's with this "retconning" thing you mention?

No you are not forced. You can just use an Orlesian Warden. 

If you use an Orlesian Warden then you get the canon story and you can't use your decisions. Retconning has nothing to do with that they couldn't seperate the import flags from a dead warden.

Modifié par Jerrybnsn, 21 septembre 2012 - 12:51 .

[KENNY4753]

Jerrybnsn wrote...

Renmiri1 wrote...

Jerrybnsn wrote...

Renmiri1 wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

So, doing the ultimate sacrifice really doesn't matter?

No, you are the one deciding to retcon your own story.

If you decide to import a Warden that did the Ultimate Sacrifice, what you are doing is essentially retconning your own story. No one forces you to use your dead Warden. If you decide you want hom alive for DAA it means you retconned him / her as  NOT doing the Ultimate Sacrifice. Your choice.

If you want to import your decisions your are forced to use your dead Warden.  I personally couldn't play the game that way because it was ridiculous.  What's with this "retconning" thing you mention?

No you are not forced. You can just use an Orlesian Warden. 

If you use an Orlesian Warden then you get the canon story and you can't use your decisions.

I did hate that about awakening. IF your Warden died you should have been able to import your choices and use an Oresian Warden

[Jerrybnsn]

KENNY4753 wrote...

Jerrybnsn wrote...



http://t0.gstatic.co...86fRot63wMzYZt6

Let's show them our hearts, and then show them theirs

best Oghren moment ever

Yeah, it would be great to have more "pike twirler jokes" with Oghren around.  I hope he doesn't make another companion appearance in DAIII because it would just kill me that he would be there but my Warden is still in inanimate suspension.

[KENNY4753]

Jerrybnsn wrote...

KENNY4753 wrote...

Jerrybnsn wrote...



http://t0.gstatic.co...86fRot63wMzYZt6

Let's show them our hearts, and then show them theirs

best Oghren moment ever

Yeah, it would be great to have more "pike twirler jokes" with Oghren around.  I hope he doesn't make another companion appearance in DAIII because it would just kill me that he would be there but my Warden is still in inanimate suspension.

I agree.

Modifié par KENNY4753, 21 septembre 2012 - 12:31 .

[Cylan Cooper]

SteveGarbage wrote...

Outside of Fiona who seems to be a special case, we know that Wardens eventually go on their Calling.

There's all this debate about whether the Warden should ever come back or whatever. My ideal solution would be to have the Warden's Calling. Maybe not as part of DA3, but maybe as a stand-alone DLC that you could play over and over and over again.

Your Warden imports into the new game and you'd have a chance to adjust the best effort to import the face morph (in case it looks god awful in the new game) and then you and a couple other Wardens and/or Legion of the Dead members head into the Deep Roads for the last hurrah. Maybe a bit of story, put a voice to the Warden or not, I don't care, but let those people take their Warden for their last hurray into a mob of darkspawn - arena, never-ending waves style in such a way that no matter what, you'll fall by the end of it. Add some sort of death scene - flashback of your life with video from the key points of Origins, etc., and then game over. Hell, even put a score on it and see if you can beat your best score.

If that was a DLC, I'd buy it. Even better if something like that could be incorporated into the game itself.

Ah, wishes.

What would be better would be if they went back and made this a dlc for Origins, with all of the old mechanics and such.  But alas, that wouldn't happen, and I've nursed an idea similar to this for a long, long time. 

[Androme]

Zobo wrote...

Androme wrote...

This is a good idea for not DA3 but for even further than DA3, we still want some more love for our Warden before we accept the fact that he may have to go to his calling.

BUT.

Who says he/she can't find ways to extend his life? Avernus did it, and our Warden is .. A bit, more, so to speak, than a regular Warden.

This. My Warden certainly do not want to die on The Deep Roads in a suicidal march, that would be as out off character as it gets. So no and one more time no.
I would rather hang out with Morrigan, I bet togeather we can think of something to get rid of the Warden problem.

Those who are into going down in a blaze of glory, you guys already had your chance in DAO.

Precisely what I was thinking, sure. If someones Warden is hanging out with Morrigan, it is much more than likely we'll find a way to neglect the Darkspawn taint. Also, sure, we could go to our calling eventually, but that doesn't need to happen after a specific period of time that most Wardens do it.

[Emma-Lath]

 https://encrypted-tb...lsqaMBnrreIaOQC

I would pay so much money for this!

And you could also take Alistair and the wardens from awakening with!
Of course they would have to be killed off one by one till only you were left but still it would be awesome!

[Jerrybnsn]

Androme wrote...


If someones Warden is hanging out with Morrigan, it is much more than likely we'll find a way to neglect the Darkspawn taint. Also, sure, we could go to our calling eventually, but that doesn't need to happen after a specific period of time that most Wardens do it.

I assumed this also, along with assuming that the warden was going to take part is this overarching epic saga for several more games.  However, I think it has been pretty well stated enough that there won't be a returning Warden ever.  They've said they would only return the warden if they feel they could do justice to the character,  and MIke Laidlaw did say awhile ago that they could never do justice for anybody's returning warden.

That doesn't mean they won't give the codex "closure" that will explain the disappearance, which I believe they have been hinting at.  To me, this is so miniscule in giving the fans what they want.  That's why I like the idea of making a big dlc of the Warden going out in style.

But a Calling unlike any calling before it.  A Calling that would shake the darkspawn lairs profoundly.  You would be your own Blight upon the Darkspawn, because this isn't any grey warden, this is Theee Grey Warden.  Killing darkspawn is Grey Warden business, and business is booming.
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Modifié par Jerrybnsn, 21 septembre 2012 - 01:52 .

[jbrand2002uk]

Comprehension is not a pre requisite of cooperation, the Warden's story is over resistance is futile you will all be assimilated your Biological blandness will be eliminated from the timeline, you will adapt to service Bioware/EA

[Jerrybnsn]

jbrand2002uk wrote...

Comprehension is not a pre requisite of cooperation, the Warden's story is over resistance is futile you will all be assimilated your Biological blandness will be eliminated from the timeline, you will adapt to service Bioware/EA

Bah!  Put it on kickstarter and see how fast this idea makes money.

edit: Of course, EA resorting to create a game via kickstarter might send its stock holders into a tizzy.  Sell! Sell!

Modifié par Jerrybnsn, 21 septembre 2012 - 12:38 .

[jbrand2002uk]

I think i'd be pleasantly amazed at a Borg/DA/Matrix hybrid game lol

[Arppis]

General User wrote...

How does one even get to the Deep Roads from the other side of an eluvian?

Magic!

...that's how they got in the first place, right?

[WardenWade]

Androme wrote...

Zobo wrote...

Androme wrote...

This is a good idea for not DA3 but for even further than DA3, we still want some more love for our Warden before we accept the fact that he may have to go to his calling.

BUT.

Who says he/she can't find ways to extend his life? Avernus did it, and our Warden is .. A bit, more, so to speak, than a regular Warden.

This. My Warden certainly do not want to die on The Deep Roads in a suicidal march, that would be as out off character as it gets. So no and one more time no.
I would rather hang out with Morrigan, I bet togeather we can think of something to get rid of the Warden problem.

Those who are into going down in a blaze of glory, you guys already had your chance in DAO.

Precisely what I was thinking, sure. If someones Warden is hanging out with Morrigan, it is much more than likely we'll find a way to neglect the Darkspawn taint. Also, sure, we could go to our calling eventually, but that doesn't need to happen after a specific period of time that most Wardens do it.

It seems to me as well that the Hero of Ferelden is "unique;" if anyone (spoilers, just in case) besides Fiona could beat the Taint it would be him/her, IMO.  Given the contents of Avernus' research in Warden's Keep and the mysterious beverage and notes from Avernus/the Architect in DA2 (depending on one's import), the Architect's experimentation, the Warden's potentially slaying an archdemon and living to tell about it, the Eluvian and the enigmatic tome Morrigan presents as well to a Warden who doesn't go through the Eluvian, and in general the overall strangeness the Warden has been subjected to in his/her life, I feel that there could be room to imagine the HoF finds a way to shrug off their "inevitable" fate.  I like to hope so, anyway  

Modifié par WardenWade, 21 septembre 2012 - 12:46 .

[Emzamination]

This isn't going to fly.I remember gaider saying that he would never allow us to play as hawke or the warden again because their stories aren't generic enough.