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[Cloaking_Thane]

Maybe we could get a tiered bonus system, for those of us that remain neutral or a slight lean one way or the other

[Direwolf0294]

A gay relationship isn't a bromance. A bromance is fist bumping with Garrus after blowing up a Reaper. A gay relationship is just a romance.

I don't think Anders came on all that heavy. He basically said, I like you, and if you say no, that's it, he never brings it up again. Having the option to let him down gently would have been nice though.

[Battlebloodmage]

Direwolf0294 wrote...

A gay relationship isn't a bromance. A bromance is fist bumping with Garrus after blowing up a Reaper. A gay relationship is just a romance.

I don't think Anders came on all that heavy. He basically said, I like you, and if you say no, that's it, he never brings it up again. Having the option to let him down gently would have been nice though.

That's basically it. People make it out as if he drugs you then takes you to a hotel or something. He only hits on you once, and that's it. It's like with Kaidan. You can avoid the entire romance by not getting him the whiskey, and yet people complain like he hits on you every chance he gets. <_<

[CitizenThom]

Calians wrote...
Really? I didn't have him in my party a lot but when I did he was hitting on Velenna and talked about girls so I must have missed something. But regardless I liked him more in DA:A than in DA:2

I liked Anders in DA:A... in DA:2 Chapter 3, he was bomb-vesting something or rather who should've accidentally detonated himself at his clinic rather than kill a bunch of innocents and bring about a civil war.

p.s. Varric is a bromance, Anders is not a bromance (not in DA2 anyways).

Modifié par CitizenThom, 21 septembre 2012 - 03:19 .

[terdferguson123]

OP, the situation with Anders didn't really play out at all like that. It was more, you say something nice, and Anders (just Anders) begins to flirt with you. You can choose whether to flirt or flirt back. It was not "say something nice" *you are now romantically involved* like you put it. It was, "say something nice" Anders becomes interested. To become Romantically involved with someone, it takes two people, not just one.

Secondly, just because turning him down gives you negative points does not mean that he won't someday be your buddy. Is it not so untrue to life? If a girl came onto you and you turned her down, she probably would think slightly less of you at the start, if you got to know her better you could probably be good friends without being romantically involved.

The point here is that so many Bioware gamers seems to think that the game should give you the power to control every situation to how you see fit. But that's not how it works, some characters (in this case Anders) have an opinion of their own that you can't control (ex: chantry explosion regardless of your involvement). Just because you didn't choose to make something happen doesn't mean another character shouldn't be able to do it without your help. It gives Anders a mind of his own and it's frankly quite endearing.

[Annie_Dear]

Some of us are happy that even a fictional character is that eager to start a romance/bromance with us.

*Forever alone in real life*

[Allan Schumacher]

TheWout wrote...

That's not how it worked and you know it.
And there is no need to play the homophobia card, since we are talking about a videogame.

You fail to see the real problem, and that is that the character seemed to be written by a straight guy imagining what homosexuals are like. (Over eager and flaunting their sexuality from the get-go)

Anders behaves the same way if the PC is female.

Furthermore, I'm pretty sure this only happens if you historically take the more diplomatic options with Anders.  He is hurt by being rejected, but he'll get over it.


EDIT: Old thread is old..

Modifié par Allan Schumacher, 21 septembre 2012 - 06:48 .

[TEWR]

My issue from the whole Anders thing stemmed just from the little bit of Rivalry. It had nothing to do with him flirting with me in an unwanted fashion -- really, I don't care. I've been hit on before and have done the hitting on myself.

It wasn't on an "OMG NO!!!" level, but in that it clearly defies how the Friendship/Rivalry system was advertised, by David Gaider no less. And this is hardly something exclusive to Anders' moment there. It's made a tad worse, I feel, when you actually flirt back with him. He gives you more friendship points.

He said that it wasn't supposed to be about getting points for approval or disapproval, that it wasn't about how much a character likes you. It was supposed to be related to the main aspects of a story arc for a given character. Do you go at them on certain issues or do you agree with them?

Anders' bit of Rivalry has nothing to do with his Mage-Templar arc, or his merging with Justice. It's just... disapproval of Hawke saying "I'm not that guy. Sorry".

I'm fine with disappointment and even disapproval in cutscenes on matters that don't deal with the main ideas of a character arc, so long as it's not tied to the F/R system, when it was claimed the F/R system isn't about "I like you" or I dislike/hate you".

Though really, when you think about it, it's hard not for the F/R system to not be about approval/disapproval. So I guess the idea should really just be, keep it restricted to approving or disapproving of what their character believes in.

If I flirt with Merrill, while that will make her happy a bit and have her respond accordingly, it won't give me a friendship boost or a rivalry boost. If I tell her blood magic is okay, she goes "Yup" and has a friendship boost. And so on and so forth...

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 21 septembre 2012 - 07:02 .