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[The Spamming Troll]

investigator mode activated:

so he joines the forum in '09, but doesnt play the game untill '12. hows something like that possible?

also, where are his secondary responses after the original post? how many times have i seen a topic exactly like this started thats only continued by everyone other then the topic creator? you never see topics that are against the games design never follow this pattern. i think its because those ones are real, and this one is not.

as well as, how long do i have to level up in borderlands 2 to unlock my gol damned ability? im level 5 or something and i have no points to distribute. what the heck, yo!

Modifié par The Spamming Troll, 20 septembre 2012 - 10:35 .

[Mcfly616]

eddieoctane wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

*snip*


You're right. Shepard only did something that nobody has ever been able to do in the history of the galaxy. He only gave everybody an actual future for the first time in eons. He only provided a new beginning where anything is possible.....something that would've never happened without him. You're right, that 'means nothing'.....and being the savior of the galaxy and the only one to break the cycle, you're right again....that's not a 'legacy' at all. Lol

Wait, you mean space Jesus is entirely a new concept?


Shep being the only one to "save the galaxy" was caused by bad writing, manifested in a series of retarded actions by formerly intelligent, capable heroes. It was derp after derp that resulted in Shep saving the galaxy. A halfway competent commander could have gotten a small force on the Citadel and then things would have worked  out much better for everyone. But stupidity is somehow artistic.t

did I ever say it was a new concept? Lol no. Doesn't change what said though. Saving the galaxy is quite the legacy. I'd love to know how you top that. Oh, and I guess Asimov wasn't a good writer. I guess 2001 wasn't critically acclaimed and symbolic in its ending. I guess Contact just blowssss.....lol all of which the ending of ME3 was directly inspired. Ahh its simply your opinion though. And that's all it is. You don't prefer it or comprehend what they were going for (symbolism), one or the other, or both. Either way its whatever. I'll just assume you've never heard of or seen any classic sci.fi stories other than the juggernaughts that were Star Wars and Star Trek.

[D24O]

Every time I see this thread I wonder whether the Op loved or hated the game.

[Mcfly616]

The Spamming Troll wrote...

investigator mode activated:

so he joines the forum in '09, but doesnt play the game untill '12. hows something like that possible?

also, where are his secondary responses after the original post? how many times have i seen a topic exactly like this started thats only continued by everyone other then the topic creator? you never see topics that are against the games design never follow this pattern. i think its because those ones are real, and this one is not.

as well as, how long do i have to level up in borderlands 2 to unlock my gol damned ability? im level 5 or something and i have no points to distribute. what the heck, yo!

how is that game? Was thinking about picking it up.....but idk, nobody can really describe it to me

[Clayless]

HE'S A **** WAAAAAH I HOPE YOU PICKED DESTROY ARTISTIC INTEGRITY LOTS OF SPECULATION.

Am I doing it right?

Edit: Ok, Bio drone is censored I just learned.

Modifié par Our_Last_Scene, 20 septembre 2012 - 10:49 .

[eddieoctane]

Mcfly616 wrote...

eddieoctane wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

*snip*


You're right. Shepard only did something that nobody has ever been able to do in the history of the galaxy. He only gave everybody an actual future for the first time in eons. He only provided a new beginning where anything is possible.....something that would've never happened without him. You're right, that 'means nothing'.....and being the savior of the galaxy and the only one to break the cycle, you're right again....that's not a 'legacy' at all. Lol

Wait, you mean space Jesus is entirely a new concept?


Shep being the only one to "save the galaxy" was caused by bad writing, manifested in a series of retarded actions by formerly intelligent, capable heroes. It was derp after derp that resulted in Shep saving the galaxy. A halfway competent commander could have gotten a small force on the Citadel and then things would have worked  out much better for everyone. But stupidity is somehow artistic.t

did I ever say it was a new concept? Lol no. Doesn't change what said though. Saving the galaxy is quite the legacy. I'd love to know how you top that. Oh, and I guess Asimov wasn't a good writer. I guess 2001 wasn't critically acclaimed and symbolic in its ending. I guess Contact just blowssss.....lol all of which the ending of ME3 was directly inspired. Ahh its simply your opinion though. And that's all it is. You don't prefer it or [b]comprehend what they were going for (symbolism)[/b[, one or the other, or both. Either way its whatever. I'll just assume you've never heard of or seen any classic sci.fi stories other than the juggernaughts that were Star Wars and Star Trek.

Condescension, how quaint. Critics of the ending can't understand the great symbolism.

It couldn't be that 2001 and Contact were not action films and thus people are more accepting of the protagonist failing miserably. Mass Effect 3 was constructed perfectly for the action genre, where the hero doesn't have to win. Oh wait, that's exactly what people expect from an action film/game. Master Chief and John McClane don't lose. But I guess I missed the point in time where Mass Effect became more about the art, even though it wasn't touted as an art piece until after the ending received backlash.

[obZen DF]

munkyboy04 wrote...

I've just finished my first play through of mass effect from game one ( yeah I know I'm a bit late to the party but hey ho). I knew there was some controversy about the ending so I approached it with some caution but wow, I loved it. I've never had a game make me cry before. But this one did I'm not afraid to admit it. 

As I've been avoiding all info about the 'horrible' ending I'm not sure what the main complaints are. Shepard saves the universe from complete destruction. brilliant.

Maybe it helped that I played leviathan before seeing the end? And I'm not sure what the extended cut added but I am sure there was no need for the stuck on pictures at the end.

Thankyou Bioware for my most favourite series of games I have ever played (including mario from back in the day)? I shall now crack on with the multiplayer and I look forward to Omega.

Consider yourself the luckiest guy on BSN by including Leviathan and EC in your first blind playthrough. Man, I wish I could. It's nice to know that you like the ending.

[DigitalMaster37]

I really can appreciate the OPs comments. As a person who was here even before the initial announcement of ME1, I enjoyed the EC. It's good, simply put. It gives me a warm enough feeling after all of the ME goodness of the series.

I like to hear all opinions and it's good to hear that others enjoyed the entire series like me, even if they came along later in the game.

[corkey sweet]

munkyboy04 wrote...

I've just finished my first play through of mass effect from game one ( yeah I know I'm a bit late to the party but hey ho). I knew there was some controversy about the ending so I approached it with some caution but wow, I loved it. I've never had a game make me cry before. But this one did I'm not afraid to admit it. 

As I've been avoiding all info about the 'horrible' ending I'm not sure what the main complaints are. Shepard saves the universe from complete destruction. brilliant.

Maybe it helped that I played leviathan before seeing the end? And I'm not sure what the extended cut added but I am sure there was no need for the stuck on pictures at the end.

Thankyou Bioware for my most favourite series of games I have ever played (including mario from back in the day)? I shall now crack on with the multiplayer and I look forward to Omega.

you've been a member since 2009, and you expect us to believe that you just now finished ME3? hate, to doubt you, but i think your lying. probably a pro-ender trolling us

Modifié par corkey sweet, 20 septembre 2012 - 11:46 .

[Bolt-Action]

Mcfly616 wrote...

Zardoc wrote...

I will never understand people who can look at the ending and the EC and honestly believe it's good.

would you have preferred an 'Independence Day' ending?

Gulp...
I liked Independence Day....
Should I not like it???

Tell me what to do! 

[BassStyles]

At least I'm being honest :-T I swear I JUST beat it.

EDIT: After seeing my join date 3/26/12 I was like... Huh... That doesn't look good, so I went to my Amazon account and sure enough I bought the double pack of Mass Effect 1 and 2 on the 25th sooooo, I guess it took me a while to get around to playing it, but boy was it good.

Modifié par BassStyles, 21 septembre 2012 - 12:00 .

[ld1449]

corkey sweet wrote...

munkyboy04 wrote...

I've just finished my first play through of mass effect from game one ( yeah I know I'm a bit late to the party but hey ho). I knew there was some controversy about the ending so I approached it with some caution but wow, I loved it. I've never had a game make me cry before. But this one did I'm not afraid to admit it. 

As I've been avoiding all info about the 'horrible' ending I'm not sure what the main complaints are. Shepard saves the universe from complete destruction. brilliant.

Maybe it helped that I played leviathan before seeing the end? And I'm not sure what the extended cut added but I am sure there was no need for the stuck on pictures at the end.

Thankyou Bioware for my most favourite series of games I have ever played (including mario from back in the day)? I shall now crack on with the multiplayer and I look forward to Omega.

you've been a member since 2009, and you expect us to believe that you just now finished ME3? hate, to doubt you, but i think your lying. probably a pro-ender trolling us

Thought it was obvious just by the way he's wording his sentences.

He says he's been avoiding spoilers like the plague, then goes on to say he heard about the attrocious ending anyway so he walked in with "caution" Giving himself a "plausible" excuse as to why he likes it and we don't.

Then he proceeds to boil down the ending and all within it into the most bare bones description he can give it with a positive spin. "Shepard saved the universe."

Then he goes on further to try and justify why this is by saying he played leviathan and the ending with the EC. Meaning he's completely missed the reason for the innitial outrage but just "doesn't see what the big deal is all about."

Then finally he goes off to thank Bioware for making a story that can make him cry.

Shallow reasons, excuses/justification walking into a forum that he's "been avoiding" meaning that he knows he's going to ruffle some feathers, Thanking Bioware which even people who enjoy the endings do not do off hand those who genuinely just completed the game are more interested in "why " its considered bad rather than handing out praise at the drop of a hat (that comes a little later) and self contradictory statements.

Not to mention that if you haven't been involved on the forums for the better part of a year, or at the very least six months, you beating the game and enjoying it so much would jump onto another playthrough, not join the forums to talk about what a wonderful experience it was. You'd want to experience it again.

Obvious troll is obvious.

[vurtual3]

eddieoctane wrote...

Unless you played with no Leviathan and no EC, you didn't play the original game. And the original was almost universally panned. Your first playthrough wasn't of the game, but the re-edited version which retroactively foreshadowed problem plot points. You should have played the game as it exists on disk, and then if you liked it your opinion would have more clout.

Universally panned with near perfect reviews I seem to recall. And(not responding to this quote now) op isn't trolling at all,he knows the endings were controversial because I told him so. Which wasn't a spoiler and he did avoid spoilers. He didn't finish the game until now because he's a busy family chap,bought it late and plays mp(with me) more than sp in his limited gaming time. Hope you don't mind me jumping in your thread dude ,just drives me mad that some people are incapable of believing that a lot of people think ME3 was a brilliant game and would rather believe that anyone would actually lie about what they think about a game to either fit in or provoke rather than just say what they think about it. Judging by their own standards perhaps. Back to responding to the quote now! Having said all that EC and Leviathan (and I presume the next couple of sp dlcs will too ) have added a lot to the cohesion of the story and improved the ending thematically. While I wouldn't suggest for a minute that BW planned the response they got from a lot of dedicated ME fans I reckon it was always planned that the dlc would be very important to the story/themes rather than completely seperable like most ME2dlc. Whether we want it to or not ,dlc /microtransactions etc aren't going to go away and EA (and pretty much everyone else) are figuring how to maximise it best for themselves. *end of rant*

[Samtheman63]

even with the ec and levithan, the ending does not make sense

[ld1449]

vurtual3 wrote...

eddieoctane wrote...

Unless you played with no Leviathan and no EC, you didn't play the original game. And the original was almost universally panned. Your first playthrough wasn't of the game, but the re-edited version which retroactively foreshadowed problem plot points. You should have played the game as it exists on disk, and then if you liked it your opinion would have more clout.

Universally panned with near perfect reviews I seem to recall. And(not responding to this quote now) op isn't trolling at all,he knows the endings were controversial because I told him so. Which wasn't a spoiler and he did avoid spoilers. He didn't finish the game until now because he's a busy family chap,bought it late and plays mp(with me) more than sp in his limited gaming time. Hope you don't mind me jumping in your thread dude ,just drives me mad that some people are incapable of believing that a lot of people think ME3 was a brilliant game and would rather believe that anyone would actually lie about what they think about a game to either fit in or provoke rather than just say what they think about it. Judging by their own standards perhaps. Back to responding to the quote now! Having said all that EC and Leviathan (and I presume the next couple of sp dlcs will too ) have added a lot to the cohesion of the story and improved the ending thematically. While I wouldn't suggest for a minute that BW planned the response they got from a lot of dedicated ME fans I reckon it was always planned that the dlc would be very important to the story/themes rather than completely seperable like most ME2dlc. Whether we want it to or not ,dlc /microtransactions etc aren't going to go away and EA (and pretty much everyone else) are figuring how to maximise it best for themselves. *end of rant*

Reviews that have since been recanted or confirmed through various interviews with reviewers with companies besides IGN, that they recieved copies of the game that didn't even have the ending on it. Or that the reviewers didn't even finish the game in question.

Those "perfect reviews" you and Bioware cling to have dropped since last I looked about four to five months ago from 75 to about 38. Wouldn't be surprised if its barely scratching at 30 at this point since they were oficially flagged as having used false advertisement by the BBB, and recieved complaints from the FTC along with a mark on their records for it.

Get outside the bubble for a bit. It'll do you some good.

Modifié par ld1449, 21 septembre 2012 - 12:55 .

[The Night Mammoth]

vurtual3 wrote...

eddieoctane wrote...

Unless you played with no Leviathan and no EC, you didn't play the original game. And the original was almost universally panned. Your first playthrough wasn't of the game, but the re-edited version which retroactively foreshadowed problem plot points. You should have played the game as it exists on disk, and then if you liked it your opinion would have more clout.

Universally panned with near perfect reviews I seem to recall. And(not responding to this quote now) op isn't trolling at all,he knows the endings were controversial because I told him so. Which wasn't a spoiler and he did avoid spoilers. He didn't finish the game until now because he's a busy family chap,bought it late and plays mp(with me) more than sp in his limited gaming time. Hope you don't mind me jumping in your thread dude ,just drives me mad that some people are incapable of believing that a lot of people think ME3 was a brilliant game and would rather believe that anyone would actually lie about what they think about a game to either fit in or provoke rather than just say what they think about it. Judging by their own standards perhaps. Back to responding to the quote now! Having said all that EC and Leviathan (and I presume the next couple of sp dlcs will too ) have added a lot to the cohesion of the story and improved the ending thematically. While I wouldn't suggest for a minute that BW planned the response they got from a lot of dedicated ME fans I reckon it was always planned that the dlc would be very important to the story/themes rather than completely seperable like most ME2dlc. Whether we want it to or not ,dlc /microtransactions etc aren't going to go away and EA (and pretty much everyone else) are figuring how to maximise it best for themselves. *end of rant*

Okay, fair enough to everything else, but Leviathan adds to the cohesion of the story? 

What? I thought it made thing worse in this respect in that you're dumped with information of such high import that Vigil's scene is the only competition and no matter what happens, or when you actually finish it, no one ever mentions anything that you discover or witness again. The only reference after that is a couple of inconsequential lines from space casper at the very end. 

If it does everything else well then this is the one thing it fails at.

[The Night Mammoth]

ld1449 wrote...

Reviews that have since been recanted or confirmed through various interviews with reviewers with companies besides IGN, that they recieved copies of the game that didn't even have the ending on it. Or that the reviewers didn't even finish the game in question.

Those "perfect reviews" you and Bioware cling to have dropped since last I looked about four to five months ago from 75 to about 38. Wouldn't be surprised if its barely scratching at 30 at this point since they were oficially flagged as having used false advertisement by the BBB, and recieved complaints from the FTC along with a mark on their records for it.

Get outside the bubble for a bit. It'll do you some good.

Wait wait wait, first the FB page drops by more than a million likes, now their '75 perfect reviews' is questionable. 

I'm forced to ask for a source this time. 

[o Ventus]

vurtual3 wrote...

eddieoctane wrote...

Unless you played with no Leviathan and no EC, you didn't play the original game. And the original was almost universally panned. Your first playthrough wasn't of the game, but the re-edited version which retroactively foreshadowed problem plot points. You should have played the game as it exists on disk, and then if you liked it your opinion would have more clout.

Universally panned with near perfect reviews I seem to recall. And(not responding to this quote now) op isn't trolling at all,he knows the endings were controversial because I told him so. Which wasn't a spoiler and he did avoid spoilers. He didn't finish the game until now because he's a busy family chap,bought it late and plays mp(with me) more than sp in his limited gaming time. Hope you don't mind me jumping in your thread dude ,just drives me mad that some people are incapable of believing that a lot of people think ME3 was a brilliant game and would rather believe that anyone would actually lie about what they think about a game to either fit in or provoke rather than just say what they think about it. Judging by their own standards perhaps. Back to responding to the quote now! Having said all that EC and Leviathan (and I presume the next couple of sp dlcs will too ) have added a lot to the cohesion of the story and improved the ending thematically. While I wouldn't suggest for a minute that BW planned the response they got from a lot of dedicated ME fans I reckon it was always planned that the dlc would be very important to the story/themes rather than completely seperable like most ME2dlc. Whether we want it to or not ,dlc /microtransactions etc aren't going to go away and EA (and pretty much everyone else) are figuring how to maximise it best for themselves. *end of rant*

I wish people would stop using the whole "perfect scores" point as if it has weight. It doesn't.

Similarly, Leviathan adds cohesion and makes thematic sense? You can't be serious...

[vurtual3]

ld1449 wrote...

vurtual3 wrote...

eddieoctane wrote...

Unless you played with no Leviathan and no EC, you didn't play the original game. And the original was almost universally panned. Your first playthrough wasn't of the game, but the re-edited version which retroactively foreshadowed problem plot points. You should have played the game as it exists on disk, and then if you liked it your opinion would have more clout.

Universally panned with near perfect reviews I seem to recall. And(not responding to this quote now) op isn't trolling at all,he knows the endings were controversial because I told him so. Which wasn't a spoiler and he did avoid spoilers. He didn't finish the game until now because he's a busy family chap,bought it late and plays mp(with me) more than sp in his limited gaming time. Hope you don't mind me jumping in your thread dude ,just drives me mad that some people are incapable of believing that a lot of people think ME3 was a brilliant game and would rather believe that anyone would actually lie about what they think about a game to either fit in or provoke rather than just say what they think about it. Judging by their own standards perhaps. Back to responding to the quote now! Having said all that EC and Leviathan (and I presume the next couple of sp dlcs will too ) have added a lot to the cohesion of the story and improved the ending thematically. While I wouldn't suggest for a minute that BW planned the response they got from a lot of dedicated ME fans I reckon it was always planned that the dlc would be very important to the story/themes rather than completely seperable like most ME2dlc. Whether we want it to or not ,dlc /microtransactions etc aren't going to go away and EA (and pretty much everyone else) are figuring how to maximise it best for themselves. *end of rant*

Reviews that have since been recanted or confirmed through various interviews with reviewers with companies besides IGN, that they recieved copies of the game that didn't even have the ending on it. Or that the reviewers didn't even finish the game in question.

Those "perfect reviews" you and Bioware cling to have dropped since last I looked about four to five months ago from 75 to about 38. Wouldn't be surprised if its barely scratching at 30 at this point since they were oficially flagged as having used false advertisement by the BBB, and recieved complaints from the FTC along with a mark on their records for it.

Get outside the bubble for a bit. It'll do you some good.

I'm don't think I'm in any 'bubble',I genuinely don't care what anyone thinks about the game other than me. I just don't like it when people refuse to accept that not everyone agrees with their groupthink opinions. If I am in a  'bubble' then so are you ,it's just that mine doesn't involve being on a forum talking about a product I didn't like 6 months after it's release. I must be so uncool. Just pointing out that saying that ME3 was universally panned is absolutely untrue. And that isn't opinion.

[ld1449]

vurtual3 wrote...


I'm don't think I'm in any 'bubble',I genuinely don't care what anyone thinks about the game other than me. I just don't like it when people refuse to accept that not everyone agrees with their groupthink opinions. If I am in a  'bubble' then so are you ,it's just that mine doesn't involve being on a forum talking about a product I didn't like 6 months after it's release. I must be so uncool. Just pointing out that saying that ME3 was universally panned is absolutely untrue. And that isn't opinion.

Lol. Whatever you say.

[vurtual3]

o Ventus wrote...

vurtual3 wrote...

eddieoctane wrote...

Unless you played with no Leviathan and no EC, you didn't play the original game. And the original was almost universally panned. Your first playthrough wasn't of the game, but the re-edited version which retroactively foreshadowed problem plot points. You should have played the game as it exists on disk, and then if you liked it your opinion would have more clout.

Universally panned with near perfect reviews I seem to recall. And(not responding to this quote now) op isn't trolling at all,he knows the endings were controversial because I told him so. Which wasn't a spoiler and he did avoid spoilers. He didn't finish the game until now because he's a busy family chap,bought it late and plays mp(with me) more than sp in his limited gaming time. Hope you don't mind me jumping in your thread dude ,just drives me mad that some people are incapable of believing that a lot of people think ME3 was a brilliant game and would rather believe that anyone would actually lie about what they think about a game to either fit in or provoke rather than just say what they think about it. Judging by their own standards perhaps. Back to responding to the quote now! Having said all that EC and Leviathan (and I presume the next couple of sp dlcs will too ) have added a lot to the cohesion of the story and improved the ending thematically. While I wouldn't suggest for a minute that BW planned the response they got from a lot of dedicated ME fans I reckon it was always planned that the dlc would be very important to the story/themes rather than completely seperable like most ME2dlc. Whether we want it to or not ,dlc /microtransactions etc aren't going to go away and EA (and pretty much everyone else) are figuring how to maximise it best for themselves. *end of rant*

I wish people would stop using the whole "perfect scores" point as if it has weight. It doesn't.

Similarly, Leviathan adds cohesion and makes thematic sense? You can't be serious...

Reviews have relevance as to whether somethings been universally panned or not!. I couldn't particularly care about them in general though in regards to a game I would have bought whatever. And it added those things for me. The fact that the construct was created by godlike organics that used mind control and liked to be worshipped helped me formulate my understanding of catalyst and reapers and influenced my thinking on choices at the end on a post leviathan playthrough. That's how it worked for me. Not saying it has to do it for you,just saying it's insulting for people to suggest it's not allowed to work for me or I must be a fanboy or something for having my own opinion.

[CINCTuchanka]

Waaaah someone likes something I don't like...

/runs off in a corner and sobs


...stay class BSN