Netsfn1427 wrote...
AngryFrozenWater wrote...
Just like a gun, which is based on technology which the reapers dropped, and still is considered to be created by organics, the Crucible could be based on plans and refinements the reapers dropped. Is there proof of that? No. Is there proof that organics created the entire device? No. However, there are indications that the reapers were involved. First, because it works with the reaper built Citadel and mass relays, the Crucible must use reaper technology to do whatever it was designed to do. Their eugenics experiments failed in the past, but somehow the brat ensures us that this time synthesis will work. That's again very odd, don't you think? Also, given the elevator, bridges and docking platform the Citadel has to be adapted for the whole scene up there. The brat claims that the Citadel is its home and that the Citadel is part of the brat. So, any alterations made to the Citadel have to be noticed by either the brat or the keepers. Yet, they didn't notice any of these constructions. Or they constructed these themselves. Take your pick.
Other races have some idea of the Catalyst. The Prothean V.I. mentions it. It's entirely possible the original plans, whoever made them, was aware of the Catalyst, and the fact that the Citadel is connected to the relay network, thus built the Crucible with that in mind. In other words, the Citadel isn't changed. The Crucible is built to use the existing framework of the Citadel and alter bits of programming with the Catalyst.The Crucible changes the Catalyst and there's every reason to suspect this is one of the Crucible's goals. I mean if the Crucible needs the Catalyst to fire, then it had better make the Catalyst willing.
I am aware that there are several interpretations of what we know. I just state my interpretation. It's not fact. Just as your interpretation is based on assumptions. You have a lot of them there. Don't get me wrong. It's not that you may not be correct, but for me it is not safe to assume you are, because my interpretation does not contradict the observations.
Here are some counter arguments:
The prothean VI on Thessia simply states that the Catalyst is the Citadel. It doesn't tell us that the Catalyst is a being. It also tells us that the reapers may have a master, but it tells Shepard that the master is unknown. So the protheans didn't make the connection that the Catalyst was an AI who controlled the reapers. If the protheans thought so then the VI would know, because it was supposed to have the memory of Pashek Vran - prothean overseer of the Crucible project.
The brat tells us that Shepard is the first organic ever who visited that location. So it may have planned that for a long time. The routine it developed to deal with the Crucible was never activated before, but obviously the Crucible's presence changes the variables and thus the routine is activated. Hence, the Crucible changed the brat in that way.
The Citadel itself is changed to allow docking of the Crucible and the talk with the brat and Shepard. The elevator (which carries the wounded Shepard upstairs), the three bridges (two close immediately after the talk) and the docking platforms are part of the Citadel and had to be build for those purposes. Note that I do not suggest that the three input devices are part of the Citadel, just the platforms they are standing on are. The timing of the elevator and the opening of the bridges is perfect. It suggests that the brat controls them and allows Shepard to use the Crucible. It also claims that the three options are new solutions for its hypothetical problem. So the brat is clearly not a victim of the Crucible. It's not a weapon. Besides, a weapon does not need the consent of its victim to be fired.
The brat is willing to use the Crucible. It doesn't object at all. After all, the three options are presented as new solutions to its hypothetical problem. And that's not odd, because, given the above observations, everything matches its intentions. It even gets angry when you refuse to use the Crucible and the cycle continues.
Modifié par AngryFrozenWater, 21 septembre 2012 - 10:40 .
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