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Female Kossith for companion and LI


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Argetfalcon

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 We all saw the concept art but I was slightly disappointed that I never saw them in game. Also I love tall women.

Not to mention all romances has certain obstacles to over come. Two different races, to different cultures would be a very compelling obstacle, and I think it would have a much bigger effect if it was a female kossith rather than if it was male. 

Modifié par Argetfalcon, 27 octobre 2012 - 02:46 .


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David Gaider

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I think if we ever put a female Qunari into the game, I'd have to make her non-romanceable almost on principle. Just because it would be funnier that way.

PC: (picks heart icon) How YOU doin'?
femQunari: *blank stare*
PC: What's wrong?
femQunari: I mean no offense. You are simply very... small.

cue Sad Hulk music.
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David Gaider

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HereticDante wrote...
Please Mr. Gaider include a Female Kossith for companion and love interest.


For a companion, it's a possibility.

As for a romance, I certainly hope the origin of such a request is that there's some aspect of qunari culture which someone finds appealing in a romance character. The alternative is too fetishistic to be appealing to me-- that they don't really care for any aspect of personality or temperament beyond the character being a tall, muscular woman. The idea that such a character should exist solely to indulge such a fetish is, in fact, exactly the sort of thing that would make a writer like myself disinclined to ever provide the option.

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Tancred Of The Chantry wrote...
I think Gaider's point is that ultimately, from a creative standpoint, he is against a love interest that exists solely as an object of desire for the player.


My point is that if your objective is to make us want to create such a romance, then espousing an interest that obviously goes no deeper than their race isn't the way to do it. That's no different than someone asking for a big, muscular male character to romance, or "a dwarf"... or saying "I'd like a black woman to romance."

In fact, I'd use the word "romance" rather loosely in that context, because what you're really asking for is a sex scene. And if you think BioWare romances are all about getting it on with a character of your choice, that's great-- but it wouldn't entice me or any other writer to want to make it happen for you. If the alternative is someone accusing me of being prudish or "arty", then so be it. Having the romance be reduced to the equivalent of some body parts is about as artless as I can imagine.

If that's not your stance, or why you want the romance, then great. You've nothing to worry about, so long as you think about what you're saying. That is what I see in a number of these requests, however... so to that I'll simply say that if you're expectation is that we developers should be thrilled to become your virtual pimps, that's simply not the case. The fixation on romance displayed in these forums is borderline distasteful as it is, and certainly not limited to requests for female qunari-- I'd rather not encourage such requests if people actually believe they'll have results that aren't the opposite of what they intend.

Modifié par David Gaider, 22 octobre 2012 - 04:33 .


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David Gaider

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KainD wrote...
It seems you are trying to say that romance-able characters are firstly there for the story, and a romance is just an extra little content. But it seems that it is not always the case.


Generally we create characters to fill roles in the party and the story first, and decide later which ones offer romance possibilities. We have never created a character solely to provide a romance, just as we've never created a character solely to be the member of a race with nothing else attributed to them. Those are really terrible places to begin making a character.

So basically what I am asking is when you make characters like Zevran, which are basically made for interactions, and romance, and to generally spice up the PC surrounding, THEN how do you decide who that character is going to be?


Zevran was created to be a rogue. That was it. His story was fleshed out later, as well as his romance. If it all looks like it was intended right from conception, that's good. That's intentional.

Because it seems like a female Kossith could be one of those characters, if such a character is not one of the characters that move the main arc.


Whether a character is part of the "main arc" has no influence on whether or not we make them romanceable. At some point after we have our character list, we'll decide which ones offer romance possibilities... and it will generally change several times before we start actually writing the characters.

A female qunari (I really hate using the word 'kossith' like that's a term we should be tossing around and not simply something mentioned in a few select places prior to now) could indeed be an interesting romance for a number of reasons. Few of which, to me, would have anything to do with her being qunari. Indeed, we'd need to alter quite a few things about such a character in order to make a romance even plausible. People have expressed a few interesting reasons of their own, and that's cool. All I'm saying is that when someone makes it obvious all they want is a tall, muscular woman with horns that makes me want to create such a romance less and not more.

I imagine many people don't care what I (or another writer) would find interesting to write, or what I as Lead Writer would be interested in authorizing. You want what you want, whether it's sex or whatever. I could simply let it go without comment, and not speak my mind, but that's certainly not going to get you a wanted romance any faster. Forum threads do not write characters.

Modifié par David Gaider, 22 octobre 2012 - 05:14 .


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David Gaider

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septembervirgin wrote...
I think you know you write pulp and porn.  I think you should be pleased to have such popularity and gather such wealth from your words.  Steven King should welcome you as a potential peer.  With time and practise?


And now we're onto patronizing BS.

Well, enjoy your argument. I've said all I care to on the subject-- I have pulp and porn to write.