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Imp of the Perverse wrote...
It wouldn't necessarily mean her deciding to go back to the Qun. I could see her stance in the mage templar war being pretty extreme, it might just mean convincing her that chantry oversight of mages is necessary, (including making some of them tranquil.)
Modifié par Auintus, 23 octobre 2012 - 11:50 .
Fraq Hound wrote...
This character practically writes itself...
Female Kossith Mage. Age 20. I'm going to call her Mercedes for the purpose of this post.
Born the daughter of whatever person is the head hauncho in the Qunari Saarebas department. You know, the guy who is responsible for overseeing the Saarebas and their handlers.
If the position does not exist in your current lore then... Surprise! I just invented it! Go me!
The man always had difficulty accepting that Mages were not people. He hated the things he had to do to the young Qunari mages that were brought under his care. But being born into his roll as Head Hauncho Saarebas guy, he felt like he had no choice.
His wife died giving birth to Mercedes and the sorrow of her death nearly killed him. He was one of the few Qunari to actually find love within the harsh breeding rules defined within the Qun. When it was discovered some years later that Mercedes was Saarebas, he nearly died again.
His beautiful daughter, the one piece of his wife that remained to him. He couldn't bring himself to subject her to the fate all Saarbas share. So he hid her away.
She spent years being a ghost. Locked away in a silent house with no one but her father to keep her company. Until one day their secret was discovered and they were both taken away in chains. Her father was given one chance to set things right and bind his daughter in the chains all Saarebas must wear.
Not wishing to see another man hurt his daughter, he set himself to the task, tears rolling down his face. The handlers brought her in before him, shivering with fear. She whimpered meekly when he threaded the needle that would sew her mouth shut and closed her eyes as the bindings were brought forth.
She panicked and tried to bolt out the door but she didn't make it two steps before a handler struck her hard across the face, knocking her to floor. She began sobbing then and looked to her father, the only person she had ever really known, seeking some kind of comfort; but there was none to be found. He only shook his head apologetically and motioned for the handlers to place her back in the chair.
Mercedes brought a hand up to her broken lip and felt the blood that was collecting there. She stared at it intently, the dark red liquid slowly running down her fingers.
Suddenly she didn't feel like a scared little girl anymore, all those years spent alone in that house, something had been building up inside of her; Something powerful.
She unleashed it upon the handlers, snapping them like twigs. Crushing them like insects and burning their bodies till naught remained but dust.
Until only her father remained, staring at her in horror. He fell to his knees weeping and told her to go. He told her to run, run my love and do not look back. And so she did.
She was 14.
She meets the protaganist 6 years later. Still on the run and constantly hounded by whatever body of the Qunari is responsible for hunting down renegade Saarebas. (Again, if it doesn't exist... I just created it. Whew, I'm really on a roll today).
She's haggard and exhausted, wearing tatters, ready to give up. The hunters are upon her and the player is given the option of interceding, thus saving her or just watching as they take her away in chains or kill her right there on the spot.
If the player saves her, what they find is a shy, scared woman who is afraid of the power within her. She is very untrusting of others (As most people outside of the Qun seem to fear the Kossith. Over the years she has only been met with fear, mistrust, or at best disinterest.)
She doesn't want to trust you but she is also at the end of her rope, she has little choice.
Depending on how the player interacts with her throughout the game, you can learn her story and help her to make peace with her past (You know, leaving her Father who was likely killed for letting her go) and also helping her take control over her magic.
Alot of fun scenes could spring outta this character. Foremost is getting her proper clothes and a bath at the first town. I see one or two of the other female companions taking her out, only to return with a beautiful Kossith woman who was hidden away behind a wall of dirt, grime, and exhaustion.
Seeing how she fairs, interacting with a friendly (well for the most post) group of people for the first time in her life.
Adjusting to a life where she doesn't have to constantly look over her shoulder.
Seeing how she reacts when/if the player character shows a romantic interest.
Geeze I gotta just stop.. I could literally go all day here.
How anyone could not find her to be a compelling character is beyond me. Yes, I realize that a ton of that would probably have the writers pulling their hair out in frustration. I'm not exactly a lore historian when it comes to Dragon Age and I admittedly was assuming quite alot.
If nobody on staff wants to write her then give me a ring. I would be more then willing to relocate to Canada and be given a chance to make her a reality.
Yes, It's a slow day at work here. No, I don't have much writing experience (obviously). Yes, I'm a little crazy and more then a little bored today.
Would anybody else be giddy to see a character like this?
Gaider is correct. Forum threads write Mary Sues. That "Mercedes" is nauseating. Even the name reeks of suedom.Upsettingshorts wrote...
Read it and weep, Gaider!David Gaider wrote...
Forum threads do not write characters.
Modifié par marshalleck, 24 octobre 2012 - 12:00 .
marshalleck wrote...
Gaider is correct. Forum threads write Mary Sues. That "Mercedes" is nauseating. Even the name reeks of suedom.Upsettingshorts wrote...
Read it and weep, Gaider!David Gaider wrote...
Forum threads do not write characters.
marshalleck wrote...
Gaider is correct. Forum threads write Mary Sues. That "Mercedes" is nauseating. Even the name reeks of suedom.Upsettingshorts wrote...
Read it and weep, Gaider!David Gaider wrote...
Forum threads do not write characters.
Auintus wrote...
marshalleck wrote...
Gaider is correct. Forum threads write Mary Sues. That "Mercedes" is nauseating. Even the name reeks of suedom.Upsettingshorts wrote...
Read it and weep, Gaider!David Gaider wrote...
Forum threads do not write characters.
It's not a set design. It's a jumping-off point. And I believe the name was merely for the sake of a name.
Fraq Hound wrote...
Naming characters is one of the hardest things for professional writers to do and as it apparently wasn't obvious to you, I'm not a professional writer.
I'm not even an unprofessional writer. Just a bored dude who thinks that character is interesting enough to bring up.
"Mercedes" is just the name of a different character I really liked.
http://www.imdb.com/...cter/ch0040370/
Anytime I write something that calls for a placeholder female name, I use Mercedes. *shrug*
As for Mary Suedom... I shouldn't really comment as I'm obviously bias. To each their own.
One man's Mary Sue can be another man's Helen of Troy.
marshalleck wrote...
Gaider is correct. Forum threads write Mary Sues. That "Mercedes" is nauseating. Even the name reeks of suedom.
Versus Omnibus wrote...
marshalleck wrote...
Gaider is correct. Forum threads write Mary Sues. That "Mercedes" is nauseating. Even the name reeks of suedom.
I rather people come up with mary sues then trash talk against Gaider.
David Gaider wrote...
I think if we ever put a female Qunari into the game, I'd have to make her non-romanceable almost on principle. Just because it would be funnier that way.
PC: (picks heart icon) How YOU doin'?
femQunari: *blank stare*
PC: What's wrong?
femQunari: I mean no offense. You are simply very... small.
cue Sad Hulk music.
plnero wrote...
David Gaider wrote...
I think if we ever put a female Qunari into the game, I'd have to make her non-romanceable almost on principle. Just because it would be funnier that way.
PC: (picks heart icon) How YOU doin'?
femQunari: *blank stare*
PC: What's wrong?
femQunari: I mean no offense. You are simply very... small.
cue Sad Hulk music.
Your hopes and dreams? DAVID SMASH!
Auintus wrote...
plnero wrote...
David Gaider wrote...
I think if we ever put a female Qunari into the game, I'd have to make her non-romanceable almost on principle. Just because it would be funnier that way.
PC: (picks heart icon) How YOU doin'?
femQunari: *blank stare*
PC: What's wrong?
femQunari: I mean no offense. You are simply very... small.
cue Sad Hulk music.
Your hopes and dreams? DAVID SMASH!
Ground into little pieces and thrown in your eyes.
David Gaider wrote...
I think if we ever put a female Qunari into the game, I'd have to make her non-romanceable almost on principle. Just because it would be funnier that way.
PC: (picks heart icon) How YOU doin'?
femQunari: *blank stare*
PC: What's wrong?
femQunari: I mean no offense. You are simply very... small.
cue Sad Hulk music.
I'd think a Saarebas eould have very "primal" powers. Very brutal and simple, nothing fancy. The Ogre fatality from DA2 from the prologue and when you kill one with Prism comes to mind(the two hands that come up from the ground and rip them apart).Auintus wrote...
Versus Omnibus wrote...
marshalleck wrote...
Gaider is correct. Forum threads write Mary Sues. That "Mercedes" is nauseating. Even the name reeks of suedom.
I rather people come up with mary sues then trash talk against Gaider.
One will have some talk down to you, the other risks a dire fate. Desicions, desicions.
Maybe we should change the topic. Onward to combat!
Now, if we stick with the DA2 system of each companion having their own unique tree, what abilities should a saarebas possess? I want to see the conclusion to whatever that saarebas was going to do before Meredith interupted.
Naming characters is one of those areas I've always found myself interested in. When jotting things down on paper or when creating a character for RPGs as a player, I will struggle a lot with names (nice way of putting it, considering my latest tiefling is called Struggle). But when I'm on the other side of the game master screen, I can come up with names for NPCs lightning fast and when I think about the names after the fact, they don't tend to be bad at all. Wonder if it's a focus issue? "I need to find a fitting name" vs "I need a name for this plot to function, now."Fraq Hound wrote...
Naming characters is one of the hardest things for professional writers to do and as it apparently wasn't obvious to you, I'm not a professional writer.
marshalleck wrote...
Gaider is correct. Forum threads write Mary Sues. That "Mercedes" is nauseating. Even the name reeks of suedom.Upsettingshorts wrote...
Read it and weep, Gaider!David Gaider wrote...
Forum threads do not write characters.
JerZeyCJ2 wrote...
I'd think a Saarebas eould have very "primal" powers. Very brutal and simple, nothing fancy. The Ogre fatality from DA2 from the prologue and when you kill one with Prism comes to mind(the two hands that come up from the ground and rip them apart).
Auintus wrote...
Kossith seem to have a bit of a superiority complex, don't they? An LI that needs more than shiny things to be impressed...I'm game. The official art doesn't look half bad either.
Huntress wrote...
What about Merril from DA2? She shows superiority complex or why you think fenris put her in her place multiple times while adventuring?
Talli from mass effect, she too shows her superiority complex from time to time..
So having a Kossith who sees everyone lower that her eyes sight as "less" is of any revelance, thats how many tall people sees US the short ass ones.. "less":lol:
Modifié par Auintus, 24 octobre 2012 - 05:01 .
So are we not allowed to call them that anymore? Is "Kossith" not canon? I saw people using it when I came back to the DA boards and was told it was mentioned in Mark of the Assassin or something like that.David Gaider wrote...
A female qunari (I really hate using the word 'kossith' like that's a term we should be tossing around and not simply something mentioned in a few select places prior to now)
JerZeyCJ2 wrote...
So are we not allowed to call them that anymore? Is "Kossith" not canon? I saw people using it when I came back to the DA boards and was told it was mentioned in Mark of the Assassin or something like that.David Gaider wrote...
A female qunari (I really hate using the word 'kossith' like that's a term we should be tossing around and not simply something mentioned in a few select places prior to now)
David Gaider wrote...
HereticDante wrote...
Please Mr. Gaider include a Female Kossith for companion and love interest.
For a companion, it's a possibility.
As for a romance, I certainly hope the origin of such a request is that there's some aspect of qunari culture which someone finds appealing in a romance character. The alternative is too fetishistic to be appealing to me-- that they don't really care for any aspect of personality or temperament beyond the character being a tall, muscular woman. The idea that such a character should exist solely to indulge such a fetish is, in fact, exactly the sort of thing that would make a writer like myself disinclined to ever provide the option.
Fraq Hound wrote...
This character practically writes itself...
Female Kossith Mage. Age 20. I'm going to call her Mercedes for the purpose of this post.
Born the daughter of whatever person is the head hauncho in the Qunari Saarebas department. You know, the guy who is responsible for overseeing the Saarebas and their handlers.
If the position does not exist in your current lore then... Surprise! I just invented it! Go me!
The man always had difficulty accepting that Mages were not people. He hated the things he had to do to the young Qunari mages that were brought under his care. But being born into his roll as Head Hauncho Saarebas guy, he felt like he had no choice.
His wife died giving birth to Mercedes and the sorrow of her death nearly killed him. He was one of the few Qunari to actually find love within the harsh breeding rules defined within the Qun. When it was discovered some years later that Mercedes was Saarebas, he nearly died again.
His beautiful daughter, the one piece of his wife that remained to him. He couldn't bring himself to subject her to the fate all Saarbas share. So he hid her away.
She spent years being a ghost. Locked away in a silent house with no one but her father to keep her company. Until one day their secret was discovered and they were both taken away in chains. Her father was given one chance to set things right and bind his daughter in the chains all Saarebas must wear.
Not wishing to see another man hurt his daughter, he set himself to the task, tears rolling down his face. The handlers brought her in before him, shivering with fear. She whimpered meekly when he threaded the needle that would sew her mouth shut and closed her eyes as the bindings were brought forth.
She panicked and tried to bolt out the door but she didn't make it two steps before a handler struck her hard across the face, knocking her to floor. She began sobbing then and looked to her father, the only person she had ever really known, seeking some kind of comfort; but there was none to be found. He only shook his head apologetically and motioned for the handlers to place her back in the chair.
Mercedes brought a hand up to her broken lip and felt the blood that was collecting there. She stared at it intently, the dark red liquid slowly running down her fingers.
Suddenly she didn't feel like a scared little girl anymore, all those years spent alone in that house, something had been building up inside of her; Something powerful.
She unleashed it upon the handlers, snapping them like twigs. Crushing them like insects and burning their bodies till naught remained but dust.
Until only her father remained, staring at her in horror. He fell to his knees weeping and told her to go. He told her to run, run my love and do not look back. And so she did.
She was 14.
She meets the protaganist 6 years later. Still on the run and constantly hounded by whatever body of the Qunari is responsible for hunting down renegade Saarebas. (Again, if it doesn't exist... I just created it. Whew, I'm really on a roll today).
She's haggard and exhausted, wearing tatters, ready to give up. The hunters are upon her and the player is given the option of interceding, thus saving her or just watching as they take her away in chains or kill her right there on the spot.
If the player saves her, what they find is a shy, scared woman who is afraid of the power within her. She is very untrusting of others (As most people outside of the Qun seem to fear the Kossith. Over the years she has only been met with fear, mistrust, or at best disinterest.)
She doesn't want to trust you but she is also at the end of her rope, she has little choice.
Depending on how the player interacts with her throughout the game, you can learn her story and help her to make peace with her past (You know, leaving her Father who was likely killed for letting her go) and also helping her take control over her magic.
Alot of fun scenes could spring outta this character. Foremost is getting her proper clothes and a bath at the first town. I see one or two of the other female companions taking her out, only to return with a beautiful Kossith woman who was hidden away behind a wall of dirt, grime, and exhaustion.
Seeing how she fairs, interacting with a friendly (well for the most post) group of people for the first time in her life.
Adjusting to a life where she doesn't have to constantly look over her shoulder.
Seeing how she reacts when/if the player character shows a romantic interest.
Geeze I gotta just stop.. I could literally go all day here.
How anyone could not find her to be a compelling character is beyond me. Yes, I realize that a ton of that would probably have the writers pulling their hair out in frustration. I'm not exactly a lore historian when it comes to Dragon Age and I admittedly was assuming quite alot.
If nobody on staff wants to write her then give me a ring. I would be more then willing to relocate to Canada and be given a chance to make her a reality.
Yes, It's a slow day at work here. No, I don't have much writing experience (obviously). Yes, I'm a little crazy and more then a little bored today.
Would anybody else be giddy to see a character like this?
dreman9999 wrote...
Everything you wrote goes ageinst every beleif the the quun......They don't even get married. And the father would never see or rasie his child. They don't even have the concept of parents.
Versus Omnibus wrote...
So we all agree: we want an actual romance, not just a fling.
Modifié par Auintus, 25 octobre 2012 - 05:22 .
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