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[Auintus]

If you position yourself correctly, I think you could avoid the broken hip. Although we probably won't want to get into that.

I'd like to see this one dual-wielding swords. Not oversized weapons like the Arishok, but full-sized weapons.

[TheJediSaint]

Don't get me wrong, I have no issue with a Kossith companion. They just don't make sense as a love interest.

[Auintus]

TheJediSaint wrote...

Don't get me wrong, I have no issue with a Kossith companion. They just don't make sense as a love interest.

It's a facet of the doctrine of the Qun that we would likely be denied without this opportunity. By no means an important one, but I think it would be interesting to see.
If we get a non-qun Kossith is some form, I will be content.

[marshalleck]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

RinjiRenee wrote...

... Can't we learn more about the Qunari without having to romance them?   I mean, we already got the sense that they think very differently, thanks to Sten.   I just don't see the need for the writers to make a potential female Qunari into a sleeping dictionary for the PC/player.  Can't you learn all those things you mentioned without romantic attachment? 

Insert penis, receive lore.

That's about the most pithy and apt descriptor of BSN as I feel I'm ever likely to see. 

[JerZey CJ]

TheJediSaint wrote...

Don't get me wrong, I have no issue with a Kossith companion. They just don't make sense as a love interest.

Why not? Sten, a Qunari, has a fondness of certain things and likes certain people, so why would it be so odd that a Kossith outside of the Qun could be a LI? And, I believe some people mentioned a few pages back that Kossith/Qunari do have love/romance, they just don't show it with sex.

[Versus Omnibus]

TheJediSaint wrote...

Hard to swagger with broken hip. 

Good one.

[TheJediSaint]

JerZeyCJ2 wrote...

Why not? Sten, a Qunari, has a fondness of certain things and likes certain people, so why would it be so odd that a Kossith outside of the Qun could be a LI? And, I believe some people mentioned a few pages back that Kossith/Qunari do have love/romance, they just don't show it with sex.

Uh?  A fondness for kittens and cookies is one thing.

Sexual intrest in another species is quite another.

[TheButterflyEffect]

Kossith are bastards. Forget it. I just want them all to drop dead.

[The Hierophant]

TheButterflyEffect wrote...

Kossith are bastards. Forget it. I just want them all to drop dead.

Racist much?

[JerZey CJ]

TheJediSaint wrote...

JerZeyCJ2 wrote...

Why not? Sten, a Qunari, has a fondness of certain things and likes certain people, so why would it be so odd that a Kossith outside of the Qun could be a LI? And, I believe some people mentioned a few pages back that Kossith/Qunari do have love/romance, they just don't show it with sex.

Uh?  A fondness for kittens and cookies is one thing.

Sexual intrest in another species is quite another.

But it shows that they can at least like things, so it isn't a stretch to think that a Kossith/Qunari could like somebody enough to want to be with them and come to care for them. Also, the bolded text.

Modifié par JerZeyCJ2, 27 octobre 2012 - 12:25 .

[Sainna]

So basically


Fine, I can understand if such a companion is wanted so we can explore and hear more about the quin, the quanari and so forth, so forth and why she left it all behind.
But love intrest? #!@#@! you sick people x)

[CaptainBlackGold]

I have been reading this thread from the beginning, mostly just for grins but I have to say that some of the animosity towards the very concept is a little extreme.

Personally, I can take or leave romances in game - honestly I think they add something to the role playing aspect, but they are not a make or break deal for me one way or the other.

However I do admit to some interest in seeing a female kossith LI just for the real potential for some interesting drama. I am not sure whether the "Kossith" (though it seems this word is no longer the right one to use according to Mr. G.) resistance to romantic sexual love is something inherent within their biology or the product of their particular religious/cultural beliefs.

And that is what would make a "romance" fascinating to explore. I personally find overly muscular women to be unattractive - not "dissing" anyone here just stating a preference. However a woman born into a society that forbids romantic love, who meets someone from outside her culture and discovers "feelings" she never even knew she had - now that would be worth developing.

This is classic "Romeo and Juliet" territory; does a woman reared in such a drastically different culture change her views when encountering someone outside her experience? Does it become a hopeless romance - like the "almost" one with Samara in ME3? Does "love conquer all" and the two lonely souls actually find each other, despite the differences in biology and culture? Or do they sadly, wave good bye at the end, regretfully acknowledging that it just could never be?

I find those kinds of scenarios really interesting. Maybe they might create models for female "Kossith" I find totally unattractive and therefore would have no interest in romancing even if available (i.e., Aveline held no interest for any of my characters, though I loved her to pieces as a friend and ally). But if they make and include one that I would find attractive, I would like to see where such a "romance" might lead.

For example, I really liked the Sigrun character - and trust me, I do not find Dwarf's sexually attractive at all. But I could see a "doomed" romance with her as a really interesting option. She was so adorable!

So I would vote for offering such an option because I think Bioware could really do it well - not as fan service or appeasing some "fetish" but rather, just investigating whether "love can find a way." This aspect would personally be far more interesting and appealing than just another "exotic elf "love interest, or even "naughty pirate girl" (and I like both those characters).

[Imp of the Perverse]

Bioware has a history of LIs that have some sort of barrier to overcome. Zevran's a gigolo with serious baggage, Morrigan's antisocial and comes across as unromantic, Tali can't get out of her suit, Fenris doesn't like to be touched, Isabella isn't into feelings, Thane's dying, the list goes on. Unless it really is genetics rather than culture that prevents the kossith from romantic relationships, a Kossith LI would fit the pattern.

[Masha Potato]

Imp of the Perverse wrote...

Zevran's a gigolo with serious baggage, Morrigan's antisocial and comes across as unromantic, Tali can't get out of her suit, Fenris doesn't like to be touched, Isabella isn't into feelings, Thane's dying, the list goes on.

I suddenly felt really miserable

[TheJediSaint]

Imp of the Perverse wrote...

Bioware has a history of LIs that have some sort of barrier to overcome. Zevran's a gigolo with serious baggage, Morrigan's antisocial and comes across as unromantic, Tali can't get out of her suit, Fenris doesn't like to be touched, Isabella isn't into feelings, Thane's dying, the list goes on. Unless it really is genetics rather than culture that prevents the kossith from romantic relationships, a Kossith LI would fit the pattern.

That's not a Bioware thing, that's a fiction thing.  Fiction, including romantic fiction, needs complications to make the story interesting.   The "barriers" with a kossith are both phisiolgical (broken pelvis), and psycological (lack of sexual intrest).

Modifié par TheJediSaint, 27 octobre 2012 - 01:09 .

[spartanmax52000]

Ho!t Hot !!Hot!Hot!! Hot!!

GodWood wrote...

BasilKarlo wrote...
We haven't seen any female Kossith.

False.

[spartanmax52000]

Female Kossith?.. Yes!! please!!...

[Masha Potato]

I resent anything that came out from this comic

So the only kossith we've seen is this

[TheButterflyEffect]

The Hierophant wrote...

TheButterflyEffect wrote...

Kossith are bastards. Forget it. I just want them all to drop dead.

Racist much?

..."Racist" is the assertion that the "Qun" is based off the Islam faith, which I've heard from many people.

[Masha Potato]

that's deep

[JerZey CJ]

Since I don't want to have to go and reply to everyone who made a "broken pelvis" joke, I'll just say it here. The Qunari(Kossith) are not that much bigger than humans, and not nearly large enough to be making that joke. We get it "haha, they're bigger than a human, so let's all make the same joke!" but remember how in that episode of Futurama how the amazons(or whatever they were) were like, THREE TIMES the size of the guys and they could pick them up? The Qunari(Kossith) are not nearly that big, and thanks to Masha's picture, we can see that a female is less than a head taller and a male is only just a head taller than a human.

[WotanAnubis]

CaptainBlackGold wrote...

I am not sure whether the "Kossith" (though it seems this word is no longer the right one to use according to Mr. G.)

Maybe so, but we need some word to describe the oxmen in general. Not all of them are Qunari. Not all of them are Tal-Vashoth. Not all of them are like Maraas. So we need a word to refer to the species as a whole if only to prevent confusion during the conversation.

A word that, preferably, isn't a lame racial slur.

[upsettingshorts]

JerZeyCJ2 wrote...

Since I don't want to have to go and reply to everyone who made a "broken pelvis" joke, I'll just say it here. The Qunari(Kossith) are not that much bigger than humans, and not nearly large enough to be making that joke. We get it "haha, they're bigger than a human, so let's all make the same joke!" but remember how in that episode of Futurama how the amazons(or whatever they were) were like, THREE TIMES the size of the guys and they could pick them up? The Qunari(Kossith) are not nearly that big, and thanks to Masha's picture, we can see that a female is less than a head taller and a male is only just a head taller than a human.

It's a reference - whether people know it is or not - to a somewhat infamous work of serious fanfiction where (I believe) Sten and fem!Warden have sex and... her pelvis gets broken.  So romantic.  

I want to say the author also claimed that the DA writers could learn a lot from her work and should hire her.  I might be confusing the two examples though.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 27 octobre 2012 - 07:48 .

[JerZey CJ]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

JerZeyCJ2 wrote...

Since I don't want to have to go and reply to everyone who made a "broken pelvis" joke, I'll just say it here. The Qunari(Kossith) are not that much bigger than humans, and not nearly large enough to be making that joke. We get it "haha, they're bigger than a human, so let's all make the same joke!" but remember how in that episode of Futurama how the amazons(or whatever they were) were like, THREE TIMES the size of the guys and they could pick them up? The Qunari(Kossith) are not nearly that big, and thanks to Masha's picture, we can see that a female is less than a head taller and a male is only just a head taller than a human.

It's a reference - whether people know it is or not - to a somewhat infamous work of serious fanfiction where (I believe) Sten and fem!Warden have sex and... her pelvis gets broken.  So romantic.  

I want to say the author also claimed that the DA writers could learn a lot from her work and should hire her.  I might be confusing the two examples though.

Huh, I've never heard of it. Then again, I don't really read fanfiction. But I'm pretty sure than anybody who has made mention of the broken pelvis joke is referencing Futurama.

[upsettingshorts]

JerZeyCJ2 wrote...

Huh, I've never heard of it. Then again, I don't really read fanfiction. But I'm pretty sure than anybody who has made mention of the broken pelvis joke is referencing Futurama.

Well, around here I suppose it could be either.  In any case, there are at least some people in Dragon Age fandom who treat Qunari pelvis breaking seriously.